The Case for Boban Marjanovic

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Mr Pituitary Tumor looks like a foot injury waiting to happen.
 
Boban the clown
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Serbian.
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Good call. Funny so many Serbs have that look. He looks like Ted Cassidy. I knew another Serbian wine maker name Esomovic that looked like a brother of Marjanovic, little brother, only about 6'7".
 
So did he get injured or something? 6 minutes in a start, only 2 fouls.
 
Beat the drum to HCP so that he can show this specific thread to Neil Olshey.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I've been beating this drum for a while, but I see absolutely no reason why we shouldn't make an offer to Boban Marjanovic of Red Star Belgrade, who broke records in the Euroleague competition (which is the basketball equivalent of the Champions League, and pits the top teams from all across Europe against each other). He wants to come here!
As you are no doubt aware, this guy is huge and slow. How huge? He's 7'2.25" in bare feet, with a 7'8" wingspan. That makes him tied for 3rd in standing reach in Draft Express's all-time measurements list with... Rudy Gobert! But he's also about 300lbs. That doesn't mean he's fat, because he isn't, it just means there's a fuck of a lot of him. Of course, that also makes him slow. But he's skillful. Check out his stats in the Euroleague. (And bear in mind, that's not his stats against other Serbian teams - that's his stats against the teams that occasionally beat NBA teams in exhibition play - the Real Madrids and Olympiakoses of this world.) He shoots 62% from the field and 78% from the FT line (which is already a concern for some in this forum). And he broke a record for rebounding.
Now, it's certainly true that the NBA game is moving in the opposite direction from players like him, what with Golden State benching Bogut in the finals etc. And I wouldn't advocate building your team around him, as Red Star did. But then again, if you don't, how useful is he? I don't know. But who cares? We're going to suck. And we got rid of Robin Lopez, who had quirkiness oozing from his pores, and replaced him with a Plumlee, who belongs in a Norman Rockwell painting (right next to Meyers Leonard). We need a guy who looks like a friendly troll from a Peter Jackson movie. And did I mention he's a good passer? Giant plodding center from Europe who's a good passer? Sound like anyone? But he hasn't had multiple injuries, and he's about Batum's age. Come on Olshey, give him a chance? What've we got to lose at this point?



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This is a very very good player. Can we bring him to Portland? No Kidding, I think he could be special.
 
I havent even read this thread yet, not all the way through, but I have an opinion about this. Europe for the most part has failed to produce much more than bench players at best. Yes there has been a small handful, but it's small.
 
Schilly said:
I havent even read this thread yet, not all the way through, but I have an opinion about this. Europe for the most part has failed to produce much more than bench players at best. Yes there has been a small handful, but it's small.
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Drazen Petrovic, Detlef Schrempf, Vlade Divac, Toni Kukoc, Arvydas Sabonis, Dirk Nowitzki, Pau Gasol, Marc Gasol, Tony Parker, Hedo Turkoglu, Andrei Kirilenko, wait, you're trolling aren't you?

Very funny.
 
Schilly said:
11 players that you had to go back... what almost 30 years to come up with?
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What would be interesting is to find out what percentage of European players become star players in the NBA, versus the percentage of Americans that become star players.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Why are you still trolling? Joke's long over.
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I am far from trolling. I have seen these European players touted over and over again on the web all over, in reality very very few pan out into much more than a roll player. Percentage wise I am sure fewer American players pan out but it's a much larger pool to pick from for sure. Lets look at our own Joel Freeland from last season. He was MVP Runner up in the ACB league, arguably the best Euro League. Here he was at best a backup. My opinion on this is that evaluating European players is like evaluating mid major and lower college level players, mostly due to the fact that the style of game is vastly different. The best figure would be going down the list of players taken in the Top 10 over the last 10 years and seeing how much success is found there. And of that weed out the players that played College ball in the USA instead of 17U ball in Europe.
 
Last 20 years....European players..top 20 picks in draft:
'96 Stojakovic
'98 Nowitzki
'98 Nesterovic
'00 Turkoglu
'01 P Gasol
'01 Radmanovic
'02 Tskitishvili
'02 Nachbar
'02 Welsch
'03 Milicic
'03 Pietrus
'03 Cabarkapa
'03 Pavlovic
'04 Biedrins
'05 Vasquez
'05 Korolev
'06 Bargnani
'06 Sefolosha
'06 Pecherov
'07 Belinelli
'08 Gallinari
'08 Ajinca
'09 Rubio
'11 Vesely
'11 Motiejunas
'12 Fournier
'13 Adetokoubo
'13 Nogueira
'13 Schroder
'13 Karasev
'14 Nurkic
'15 Porzingis
'15 Hezonja

Out of this list.....I count 2 HOF players (Nowitzki, P Gasol), 9 NBA regular starter (Stojakovic, Nesterovic, Turkoglu, Nene, Sefolosha, Gallinari, Rubio, Motiejunas, Porzingis). The rest (22) were role players or bench warmers or never bothered to suit up.
 
11/total number of euros to have NBA time...
Harry's Raincoat said:
Last 20 years....European players..top 20 picks in draft:
'96 Stojakovic
'98 Nowitzki
'98 Nesterovic
'00 Turkoglu
'01 P Gasol
'01 Radmanovic
'02 Tskitishvili
'02 Nachbar
'02 Welsch
'03 Milicic
'03 Pietrus
'03 Cabarkapa
'03 Pavlovic
'04 Biedrins
'05 Vasquez
'05 Korolev
'06 Bargnani
'06 Sefolosha
'06 Pecherov
'07 Belinelli
'08 Gallinari
'08 Ajinca
'09 Rubio
'11 Vesely
'11 Motiejunas
'12 Fournier
'13 Adetokoubo
'13 Nogueira
'13 Schroder
'13 Karasev
'14 Nurkic
'15 Porzingis
'15 Hezonja

Out of this list.....I count 2 HOF players (Nowitzki, P Gasol), 9 NBA regular starter (Stojakovic, Nesterovic, Turkoglu, Nene, Sefolosha, Gallinari, Rubio, Motiejunas, Porzingis). The rest (22) were role players or bench warmers or never bothered to suit up.
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Harry's Raincoat said:
Last 20 years....European players..top 20 picks in draft:


Out of this list.....I count 2 HOF players (Nowitzki, P Gasol), 9 NBA regular starter (Stojakovic, Nesterovic, Turkoglu, Nene, Sefolosha, Gallinari, Rubio, Motiejunas, Porzingis). The rest (22) were role players or bench warmers or never bothered to suit up.
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Nene is from Brazil
 
Sigh. Why do I allow myself to get sucked into this bullshit? Well, here we go.

Harry's Raincoat said:
Last 20 years....European players..top 20 picks in draft:
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Okay, so that's totally arbitrary right there. Why look at the top 20 picks? Why not actually look at the rosters of the teams? Euro players are often picked lower than they should on talent for various reasons, not least that they might not come over. So, for example, your list misses out Tony Parker and Rudy Gobert. Isn't that colossally stupid?

Out of this list.....I count 2 HOF players (Nowitzki, P Gasol), 9 NBA regular starter (Stojakovic, Nesterovic, Turkoglu, Nene, Sefolosha, Gallinari, Rubio, Motiejunas, Porzingis). The rest (22) were role players or bench warmers or never bothered to suit up.
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Oh, so Giannis is a "role player or bench warmer"? Okay...
 
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As Syrian refugees are to Republicans, so European basketball players are to posters in this forum.
 
Think the Spurs would take Kaman for him.
 
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