The Durant Thread

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Are you equating a thirty-plus year-old, overpaid CJ with Brandon Ingram? Little and CJ come nowhere close to matching Ingram's value.

No. That is why i still said however many picks. But it seems like it might have been possible to get him.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Graduated in 2001

Ah, youngster--5 years behind me. Only person I knew from that class was my ex-girlfriend's little sister Jillian.

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Ah, youngster--5 years behind me. Only person I knew from that class was my ex-girlfriend's little sister Jillian.

I think I know who you’re talking about!

 

[Hoopguru]

Maybe he's a big Sam Elliot fan and wanted to see where he went to high school.

Sam went to David Douglas

 

[Pinwheel1]

I played against Ray Blume.
And Jeff Stoutt, who lit me up for 40+...

Those two, plus Ainge and Radford made for a fun HS tournament that year.
If I recall correctly all 4 of their teams were undefeated going in.

 

[wizenheimer]

So basically cj, nance, maybe little as well and as many picks as we could offer, might have got us KD?

hmmmmmmmmm

LOL...yeah, because obviously the Nets place the same value on CJ as they did on Ingram....funny that they didn't ask for CJ instead of Ingram. Must have been a mistake

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

LOL...yeah, because obviously the Nets place the same value on CJ as they did on Ingram....funny that they didn't ask for CJ instead of Ingram. Must have been a mistake

Again, i also said as many picks as it took and also included little…not sure how that equates to me saying CJ has the same value as Ingram?

 

[wizenheimer]

Again, i also said as many picks as it took and also included little…not sure how that equates to me saying CJ has the same value as Ingram?

the point being that while Ingram has the value to be a centerpiece of a Durant trade, CJ doesn't...so it wouldn't matter how many picks the Blazers were offering

in fact, it's likely that Portland has better trade value in what CJ was essentially traded for in Grant and Hart, than CJ himself

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

the point being that while Ingram has the value to be a centerpiece of a Durant trade, CJ doesn't...so it wouldn't matter how many picks the Blazers were offering

in fact, it's likely that Portland has better trade value in what CJ was essentially traded for in Grant and Hart, than CJ himself

Fair enough. Quality or Quanity.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[BigGameDamian]

I really hope KD doesn’t get his way as he probably will. Players have way to much say in where they play. I was listening to Sirius XM NBA radio the other day. I think it was Antonio Daniels? that brought up the idea of maybe penalizing the player(s) in some way that don’t fulfill their contract and try to push their way out. Maybe taking away a portion of their contract?

 

[SheedSoNasty]

I really hope KD doesn’t get his way as he probably will. Players have way to much say in where they play. I was listening to Sirius XM NBA radio the other day. I think it was Antonio Daniels? that brought up the idea of maybe penalizing the player(s) in some way that don’t fulfill their contract and try to push their way out. Maybe taking away a portion of their contract?

I’m sure the players union would throw a fit about it, but I do think that it hurts the game when so many players want to team up or dictate where they play when they’re not unrestricted free agents.

 

[Eli Vance]

I’m sure the players union would throw a fit about it, but I do think that it hurts the game when so many players want to team up or dictate where they play when they’re not unrestricted free agents.

Breach of contract if they refuse to play for the team they signed with. Contract voided. Player gets penalized one year can't sign a new deal seems reasonable.

But it wouldn't come to that. Faking an injury, being cancerous, that's all the player would have to do to force a trade.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Breach of contract if they refuse to play for the team they signed with. Contract voided. Player gets penalized one year can't sign a new deal seems reasonable.

But it wouldn't come to that. Faking an injury, being cancerous, that's all the player would have to do to force a trade.

It would have to be enforced on both sides. Something like a no-trade clause for both player and team. So if Durant signs a Max, it comes with a clause that he simply can't be traded even if the team wanted to. That's the only way it works. You can't tell the players that they can't dictate where they go but the teams can trade them whenever they want.

 

[SIeepwalker]

KD is a fucking joke at this point.

 

[tykendo]

Sam went to David Douglas

I read in a story, years ago, it was Parkrose. Oh well, thanks.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

I read in a story, years ago, it was Parkrose. Oh well, thanks.

David Douglas. I used to live around the corner from where he grew up. @Wade Garrett should also know this.

 

[Cugel]

I say let them ask out BUT player is out for all playoffs that season. Punish the buying team.

 

[Wade Garrett]

David Douglas. I used to live around the corner from where he grew up. @Wade Garrett should also know this.

It was David Douglas..
Lindsay Wagner, (The Bionic Woman) also went to DD....
I went to Centennial, but lived close to DD...As a kid, I could hear their Friday night football games.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

It was David Douglas..
Lindsay Wagner, (The Bionic Woman) also went to DD....
I went to Centennial, but lived close to DD...As a kid, I could hear their Friday night football games.

as a kid, i did too. Off of 135th. Also remember going to their very nice indoor pool alot as a kid.

 

[BIG Q]

I won a state wrestling title in the David Douglas gym. Beat a DD wrestler in the semifinal. It was loud! Huge gym.

 

[inconceivable]

Did Minnesota offeer Brooklyn for Durant what they offered Utah for Gobert?

Chatter is the Nets are using the Wolves-Jazz trade as blueprint for Durant's value.

 

[tykendo]

Did Minnesota offeer Brooklyn for Durant what they offered Utah for Gobert?

Chatter is the Nets are using the Wolves-Jazz trade as blueprint for Durant's value.

Tim Connelly screwed the pooch for every other NBA franchise going forward.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Tim Connelly screwed the pooch for every other NBA franchise going forward.

I guess they can all try to get a similar haul. But it is so stupid when teams think that a new standard has been created each time another team sends out more than what seems practical. It is like when someone overpays for a house in a neighborhood that they personally just really want to live in. I had a friend who greatly overpaid for a house just because his wife wanted to live next to her best friend. The house wasn't even for sale but his wife really wanted it. Should other sellers hold out for a similar price just because my friend was a PW freaking moron? Maybe Minnesota thought they already had an abundance of young players and the draft picks were just not as valuable as a rim protector. Seems stupid to me, but maybe it was the right move at this very moment for the wolves.
I just don't think it is for any other team.

 

[Predator]

I agree with the above poster.
I highly doubt this is a “market changing” type of a deal where this sets a new standard.

 

[Natebishop3]

I guess they can all try to get a similar haul. But it is so stupid when teams think that a new standard has been created each time another team sends out more than what seems practical. It is like when someone overpays for a house in a neighborhood that they personally just really want to live in. I had a friend who greatly overpaid for a house just because his wife wanted to live next to her best friend. The house wasn't even for sale but his wife really wanted it. Should other sellers hold out for a similar price just because my friend was a PW freaking moron? Maybe Minnesota thought they already had an abundance of young players and the draft picks were just not as valuable as a rim protector. Seems stupid to me, but maybe it was the right move at this very moment for the wolves.
I just don't think it is for any other team.

Greed is everywhere. I guarantee someone saw what your friend paid and thought they could get similar value.

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.blazersedge.com/platfor...-brooklyn-nets-kyrie-irving-zach-lowe-podcast

Lowe Adds Trail Blazers as Potential Kevin Durant Trade Destination

The ESPN analysts cite Portland as a potential new home for the 12-time All Star.

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Marks: I went through it, I was looking like Portland.

Lowe: There you go, you got my last Cinderalla team, talk me through Portland.

Marks: This is all after these restrictions are lifted here and they would have to lift protection, they owe Chicago a top 14 protected first for the next six years, so they’d have to lift the protection off that. But if I’m looking at their roster, is Shaedon Sharpe off the board? Is he off the board in any deals here? Their young prized rookie here. They’ve got salary filler, like Josh Hart, guys like that, rotational players. I would put Jerami Grant in the deal. Is Grant, Hart and Sharpe too much?

Lowe: I really do like Shaedon Sharpe, that’s a lot and obviously we’re implying that all three picks, three swaps whatever is involved for Durant. I do think they would probably pull Simons off the table. Simons can’t be traded until January 15

The problem with putting Nurkic in is I have no center at all. I have Drew Eubanks and small-ball fives like Winslow and Trendon Watford who hasn’t been playing this season. Do I need to get Claxton back. I find it hard to believe the Nets are going to draw a Claxton line in the sand. Do I need to find another center somewhere, probably, do I care necessarily.

That’s a lot though, I like what I’ve seen from Sharpe so far. Grant, I’m getting Durant anyway, so I don’t care, Hart is a good starting rotation player for them. You have to think about it. I mean, you paid Damian Lillard all this money, he’s 32, he’s going to be 36 by the end of the this contract, making $60 million. So you’re in for whatever the phrase is, a penny, or a pound, or a nickel, or whatever the hell the phrase is. You might as well be in for a lot more. Portland and Washington are my like maybe didn’t have the juice in the summer but...

 

[mook]

Olshey lasted a very, very long time as a gm by not sticking his neck out and dealing CJ. It was bad for the franchise, but safe for his career.
There is no riskier career move for an NBA gm than to trade a haul of assets for Durant. You just don't know when he'll demand a trade or call out the GM to be fired. You can find yourself a year from now having maybe traded the next Vince Carter, only to be crucified by your top 15 All Time player.
It makes a ton of sense from a basketball perspective to put Dame and Durant together, but not for a package like Anthony Davis yielded. Just too risky for Cronin's own career.

 

[PDXFonz]

Olshey lasted a very, very long time as a gm by not sticking his neck out and dealing CJ. It was bad for the franchise, but safe for his career.
There is no riskier career move for an NBA gm than to trade a haul of assets for Durant. You just don't know when he'll demand a trade or call out the GM to be fired. You can find yourself a year from now having maybe traded the next Vince Carter, only to be crucified by your top 15 All Time player.
It makes a ton of sense from a basketball perspective to put Dame and Durant together, but not for a package like Anthony Davis yielded. Just too risky for Cronin's own career.

Can somebody photoshop olshey in a chef hat with an egg beater in his hand and the caption “Let it bake”

 

[SIeepwalker]

I don't want him, at all.