The Nurk injury update thread

[kjironman1]

February?

PG returned in 8 months. Nurkic can do the same.

It's not a joint injury, it's a bone. It doesnt bear full weight. And due to PGs athleticism, the bone likely had to deal with just as much maximum force as Nurks did.

Best case scenario is November.

I think you are being pretty optimistic on that but i'm all for it. All my research to this point says January would be the beginning of 5 on 5 type drills. That would put him at February playing consistently. Maybe we could hope for Christmas but to me November would be a huge stretch.

 

[BonesJones]

I think you are being pretty optimistic on that but i'm all for it. All my research to this point says January would be the beginning of 5 on 5 type drills. That would put him at February playing consistently. Maybe we could hope for Christmas but to me November would be a huge stretch.

So 10 months is the beginning of 5-on-5 drills while PG returned in 8 months?

 

[kjironman1]

So 10 months is the beginning of 5-on-5 drills while PG returned in 8 months?

Okay 5 on 5 by the beginning of December would be great. So maybe Christmas for a return. I’d be real happy about that. Still think it’s way optimistic but we can all hope right? My bet is January though at best. February would be good in my book.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

So 10 months is the beginning of 5-on-5 drills while PG returned in 8 months?

PG's 8 month return was shockingly quick. I wouldn't base any expectations of Nurkic's recovery on George.

 

[dviss1]

God damn dude.

Speculative assumptions about the future with no basis in actual reality, put forth so you can say "FML"...

 

[dviss1]

Nurk is gonna give us a GREAT Christmas present.

 

[e_blazer]

PG's 8 month return was shockingly quick. I wouldn't base any expectations of Nurkic's recovery on George.

Only to laymen because of how gruesome the injury looked. I doubt any orthopedic doctors were shocked. Without ligament damage, a typical break heals in 3-6 months and the leg is ready to go. How long it takes to regain game conditioning is a function of how hard the athlete works.

 

[e_blazer]

Straight from the link-
"To answer that question, it would be helpful to know what kind of fracture Nurkic sustained. I don’t know that."

Seriously? You gonna link an O-live bullshit story to try and make any kind of case?

How about this one?

One study (Sp Health 2016) found 88 percent of patients returned to sport (recreational and competitive) after treatment of a tibia fracture with a rod at an average of 41 weeks.”

Now 41 weeks at 4.3 weeks a month is 9-10 months. So now you are looking at January. But even that is tagged with 88% and Rec/Competitive. Neither are Professional NBA game shape at nearly 300 lbs of player.

Then after reporting multiple reasons why it won't be October they pop of with this-

"If Nurkic follows his recovery plan, he could return around October.

With his toughness, medical squad, teammates and Rip City behind him, it could be sooner."

Now please explain to me how they go from 41 weeks to 28-30 or even sooner?

Was it all because of this statement?

"Nurkic may also focus on eating healthy foods to recover faster. For example, consuming adequate protein, calcium, fish oil and vitamin D can boost bone health (Bone 2019, J Orthop Res 2019), although caloric intake must also be managed to avoid putting on excessive body fat."

Like we all don't know adequate protein and vitamin D will be needed. Sure fish oil is gonna shave 10 weeks off the recovery. That makes sense....

The 41 weeks is an average of all athletes at all levels, not those at top pro levels who get the best of the best treatment and therapy. The article rightly assumes Nurk is going to get the very best of care.

 

[illmatic99]

PG's 8 month return was shockingly quick. I wouldn't base any expectations of Nurkic's recovery on George.

Yup. And there was talk here in Indy if I remember correctly about him pushing management to let him get some reps THAT season. He came back early mostly to work out kinks and continue his rehab the subsequent summer.

 

[BBert]

I kind of say yes. If there is anyway you get a generational talent here with any chance at all to re-sign him you better do it. And do it quick.

On the one hand, having both Nurk and Davis on the team, both of whom it could be said are frequently injured, would provide tremendous insurance that the Blazers would have an all star caliber center on the floor when one or the other is dinged up.

On the other hand, having both Nurk and Davis on the team would allow the team to keep both of their minutes down, reducing their risk of injury.

On the third hand, since Nurk is likely going to miss a significant portion of next season, and probably won't be back to this year's level of play until the following year, who would we rather have on the floor: Davis or Kanter? That's what I thought.

On the fourth hand, IT'S ANTHONY FUCKING DAVIS!!!

So yeah. DO IT DO IT DO IT

//pipe dream

 

[BBert]

I would, might be a stupid idea... I seriously would though.

Not stupid at all.

No guts, no glory.

Also: In Dame I Trust

 

[BBert]

Im expecting Nurk back in 8-12 months. Sometime between November and March.

I think that's a safe range, this early in the process.

I don't think we'll have any real idea how close he is until six months from now, so my speculation in this thread is as bad as the next guy's, haha.

And next winter, we'll be arguing about what "back" means

 

[THE HCP]

If I was the GM, I'd approach the off season with the assumption he'll miss the year (that is not my prediction just how I would plan). Then whatever he gives us if he plays would be extra.

I agree with this assessment.

 

[THE HCP]

So because Paul George came back and played a few games after 8 months, that’s what we believe will happen to Nurk? I’m not a doctor, but that doesn’t seem right.

 

[julius]

So because Paul George came back and played a few games after 8 months, that’s what we believe will happen to Nurk? I’m not a doctor, but that doesn’t seem right.

I think people are using it as an example of what COULD happen, not what they believe WILL happen.

 

[THE HCP]

I think people are using it as an example of what COULD happen, not what they believe WILL happen.

OK, just checking. Because that shocked EVERYBODY. That is definitely not the norm. I’m just seeing “Paul George did this so Nurk will do this” type posts. Like I said, I think if you think Nurk is going to be back in 8 months, you might be setting yourself up for a let down.

 

[julius]

OK, just checking. Because that shocked EVERYBODY. That is definitely not the norm. I’m just seeing “Paul George did this so Nurk will do this” type posts. Like I said, I think if you think Nurk is going to be back in 8 months, you might be setting yourself up for a let down.

I believe, also, that the difference is that Paul came back with what, a few games left in the season and the Pacers where fighting for the 8th playoff spot so it's likely that he came back early to help him.

 

[THE HCP]

I believe, also, that the difference is that Paul came back with what, a few games left in the season and the Pacers where fighting for the 8th playoff spot so it's likely that he came back early to help him.

His recovery has been amazing. Very happy for him. Can only believe what was going through his camp’s mind while he was laying on the floor. This past fall my wife and I watching my son not get up off the football field, was a feeling I wouldn’t wish on anybody. I can only imagine when it’s a professional athlete. I have no details about Nurk and my only experience in the medical field would be from watching re-runs of MASH as a kid.........that said, some reserch should be done, because I’m quite sure the recovery time is not normally only 8 months. We’ll see, won’t we. I DO know he is in good hands.

 

[julius]

His recovery has been amazing. Very happy for him. Can only believe what was going through his camp’s mind while he was laying on the floor. This past fall my wife and I watching my son not get up off the football field, was a feeling I wouldn’t wish on anybody. I can only imagine when it’s a professional athlete. I have no details about Nurk and my only experience in the medical field would be from watching re-runs of MASH as a kid.........that said, some reserch should be done, because I’m quite sure the recovery time is not normally only 8 months. We’ll see, won’t we. I DO know he is in good hands.

I think a lot of people, in the media, are becoming arm chair physical therapists (i.e., he weighs so much etc).

I think 6-8 months is when he should be starting to return to physical activity, I believe. I don't think it's unexpected that the timeline might be similar (ish). Not saying that people should be expecting it to be 8 months and he's back, but hoping for it.

 

[wizenheimer]

Yup. And there was talk here in Indy if I remember correctly about him pushing management to let him get some reps THAT season. He came back early mostly to work out kinks and continue his rehab the subsequent summer.

yep...and he only averaged 15 minutes a game for 6 games and looked like a shell of what he was before the injury

personally, I think it's loopy to expect that Nurkic will be on the same time-table as Paul George

 

[illmatic99]

lol "A lot of us aren't fond of Nurkic"

 

[illmatic99]

3.5 months post injury:

 

[Veletin123]

The greatest risk will be his mental state

 

[BBert]

I think a lot of people, in the media, are becoming arm chair physical therapists (i.e., he weighs so much etc).

I think 6-8 months is when he should be starting to return to physical activity, I believe. I don't think it's unexpected that the timeline might be similar (ish). Not saying that people should be expecting it to be 8 months and he's back, but hoping for it.

Right. When can he start putting pressure on it. When can he start strengthening exercises. When can he initiate light impact. When can he do full workouts, including full impact. When can he play in an actual game.

The later stages depend on how the earlier stages go.

Like Sergeant Schultz: We know nothing.

 

[noknobs]

lol "A lot of us aren't fond of Nurkic"

Wow what a shit comment by Paul George.

 

[Scalma]

Wow what a shit comment by Paul George.

Right? How’s that relevant to anything? I hope next time Nurkic actually headbutts him.

 

[Eastoff]

I hope Nurkic can start consuming lots of film

 

[Minstrel]

I hope Nurkic can start consuming lots of film

I saw a doctor on Twitter saying he should eat a lot of lean meats, actually.

 

[trailblazer18]

Hadn't seen the following posted anywhere, from ESPN+

$1 million for 50 wins
Jusuf Nurkic | Portland Trail Blazers

Give credit to the Blazers for how they structured the four-year, $48 million Nurkic contract. The team-friendly deal also adds a financial incentive for regular-season success. Nurkic will earn $1.25 million if Portland wins 50 games this season, something the Blazers have not done since 2014-15. The bonus was deemed unlikely before the season.

FiveThirtyEight currently projects Portland to win 51 games.

Reaching 50 wins would come with a financial cost to the Blazers: The tax bill in Portland will increase from $13.82 million to $16 million.

For future years, the Nurkic cap hit will be adjusted to $13.2M, $14.1M and $13.2M.

Note: Despite his season-ending injury, Nurkic has played 70 games and will still earn the bonus if Portland wins 50 regular-season games.

 

[illmatic99]

Wow what a shit comment by Paul George.

haha i thought it was innocuous. Out of place given the circumstances but harmless.