The off-season begins. Discuss.

[Natebishop3]

Just a comparison (Bridges is 26 years old to Sharpe's 19 years)

Bridges after getting traded to BKN


Sharpe as a starter


Bridges is the better defender, but Sharpe is WAY ahead of where Bridges was as a rookie (22 years old).

 

[Pinwheel1]

Just to be clear, we are now ok with our SF being 6'5 1/4? Because that is what Bridges appears to be
https://valleyofthesuns.com/2019/09/28/nba-requires-phoenix-suns-submit-non-inflated-heights/

 

[inconceivable]

I've seen a BKN fan on Twitter saying that getting Mikal Bridges would require Sharpe, Simons, the pick, and 3/4 other frp. I didn't know he was the second coming of MJ

I've also seen a Blazer fan in a forum saying getting Mikal Bridges would require Nas Little, Keon Johnson, and 3/4 srp

This is gunna be BIG summer, we will see some earth-shattering moves. Mikal is only an appetizer

 

[Mediocre Man]

Sure, but come on.

1. You are REALLY overestimating Ants value
2. Sharpe is tantalizing, but that’s all he is at this point

 

[Strenuus]

I meant that in the sense of if Bridges can bring back a recent lottery pick, a top 5 pick, and an efficient 25 ppg lead guard, then Dame can bring back a shit ton more.

Oooh, my bad. I get you.

 

[Strenuus]

I've also seen a Blazer fan in a forum saying getting Mikal Bridges would require Nas Little, Keon Johnson, and 3/4 srp

This is gunna be BIG summer, we will see some earth-shattering moves. Mikal is only an appetizer

I think they'd hang up by the time you said keon Johnson lol

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I’m using some of the assets we get for Dame to snag Sengun from Houston. Nobody on that roster is untouchable.

 

[tykendo]

I've seen a BKN fan on Twitter saying that getting Mikal Bridges would require Sharpe, Simons, the pick, and 3/4 other frp. I didn't know he was the second coming of MJ

Brooklyn fan is really delusional. Mikal Bridges is a great 2 way role player. He's not Kevin Durant.

 

[LayneStaley]

I think everyone is gonna be mighty disappointed come next November, if we aren’t trading Dame we really don’t have the ammo to go out and improve. I fully expect basically the same roster plus whoever we pick. Cronin will play it off that the value wasn’t there to trade the pick. My guess is we try to build through the draft while saving face saying we tried to pull this and that trade until Dame finally asks for a trade in his age 34/35 season bringing us back very little in compensation. Better hope we hit number 1 this year.

 

[Strenuus]

I think everyone is gonna be mighty disappointed come next November, if we aren’t trading Dame we really don’t have the ammo to go out and improve. I fully expect basically the same roster plus whoever we pick. Cronin will play it off that the value wasn’t there to trade the pick. My guess is we try to build through the draft while saving face saying we tried to pull this and that trade until Dame finally asks for a trade in his age 34/35 season bringing us back very little in compensation. Better hope we hit number 1 this year.

I agree in parts.

But I do think dame asks for a trade at the deadline if nothing happens or not enough happens. Gut feel.

I think we poach someone from Toronto.

It's why it's so weird. It all hinges on this and there's not a lot to be excited about asset wise.

 

[tykendo]

I think everyone is gonna be mighty disappointed come next November, if we aren’t trading Dame we really don’t have the ammo to go out and improve. I fully expect basically the same roster plus whoever we pick. Cronin will play it off that the value wasn’t there to trade the pick. My guess is we try to build through the draft while saving face saying we tried to pull this and that trade until Dame finally asks for a trade in his age 34/35 season bringing us back very little in compensation. Better hope we hit number 1 this year.

The Blazers do have ammo. They will open up access to their future draft capital, plus have potentially a top 5 pick this year. Add in a very good Anfernee Simons, and that should net you 2 very good talents in return on the low side . And that's with not getting the #1 pick Wemby . Unless you're saying Simons isn't that valuable. If that's the case, why would the Blazers want to keep him at all anyways. I think Simons is a very good player but redundant here.

 

[Strenuus]

The Blazers do have ammo. They will open up access to their future draft capital, plus have potentially a top 5 pick this year. Add in a very good Anfernee Simons, and that should net you 2 very good talents in return on the low side . And that's with not getting the #1 pick Wemby . Unless you're saying Simons isn't that valuable. If that's the case, why would the Blazers want to keep him at all anyways. I think Simons is a very good player but redundant here.

Simons is a sixth man on most other teams.

 

[blazerkor]

So sad Dame is basically forcing purgatory

It seems like he's forcing us out of purgatory. He's saying get another bonafide star at a position of need, upgrade this roster so it's the best I've played on and we'll be cool. Obviously that implies that if the team can't that they should trade him. So we're either going into a youth rebuild or we're trading away every other draft pick for the foreseeable future so we have a legit chance at a title over the next few years.

Both of the results of Dame really pushing the team the hardest he ever has are the team not being in purgatory.

 

[BIG Q]

Funny thing is, Dame can't make a trade. He can talk to his buddies, ask them to come to Portland and play with him. Even if they were free agents, we can't sign them. Dame makes soooo much. Can't trade for them because other teams know we HAVE to overpay and that is foolish. Portland is only gonna succeed using the OKC model, draft, draft a lot, and know what the hell it is you are drafting. It' s how we got Dame.

 

[blazerkor]

Funny thing is, Dame can't make a trade. He can talk to his buddies, ask them to come to Portland and play with him. Even if they were free agents, we can't sign them. Dame makes soooo much. Can't trade for them because other teams know we HAVE to overpay and that is foolish. Portland is only gonna succeed using the OKC model, draft, draft a lot, and know what the hell it is you are drafting. It' s how we got Dame.

There are ways to keep Dame and still contend. 29 other teams in the NBA will not devalue known currency like draft picks because they can force Dame out to a different team, that makes no fucking sense. Half of the teams in the league are making win now moves. The fact that every GM knows that we are either going to make win now moves or trade Dame does not weaken our position.

 

[Mediocre Man]

It seems like he's forcing us out of purgatory. He's saying get another bonafide star at a position of need, upgrade this roster so it's the best I've played on and we'll be cool. Obviously that implies that if the team can't that they should trade him. So we're either going into a youth rebuild or we're trading away every other draft pick for the foreseeable future so we have a legit chance at a title over the next few years.

Both of the results of Dame really pushing the team the hardest he ever has are the team not being in purgatory.

We’ll be what, 6-10 seed next year best case?

 

[HailBlazers]

We’ll be what, 6-10 seed next year best case?

Stepping stone to contention hopefully.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Looks like everyone wants a Portland- Toronto trade of some sort...

 

[Mediocre Man]

Stepping stone to contention hopefully.

When Dame is 34?

 

[HailBlazers]

When Dame is 34?

CP3's almost 38.

 

[Strenuus]

Looks like everyone wants a Portland- Toronto trade of some sort...

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No one on Toronto feels like a needle mover.

Man do I sound like BGD.

 

[TBpup]

Looks like everyone wants a Portland- Toronto trade of some sort...

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Okay, Siakam/OG for Dame/Ant

Scoot/Sharpe/OG/Siakam/Nurk.....better than what we had 3 out of the last 4 years, even with the youth.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

No one on Toronto feels like a needle mover.

Man do I sound like BGD.

Full rebuild right here.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Okay, Siakam/OG for Dame/Ant

Scoot/Sharpe/OG/Siakam/Nurk.....better than what we had 3 out of the last 4 years, even with the youth.

No reason for them to trade for Dame if they're giving up Siakam. Those two belong together, whether here or there.

 

[MickZagger]

1. You are REALLY overestimating Ants value
2. Sharpe is tantalizing, but that’s all he is at this point

In sports projecting young players is huge to teams. I’m pretty sure the consensus is that Sharpe is going to be really special among GM’s. He’s still 19.

That said Cronin would have to be an idiot to trade Sharpe.

If I had to choose between Lillard and Sharpe, taking into account their age. I’d take Sharpe EASILY.

The only way we’ll win a championship with Lillard imo is by getting a player better than him at this stage in his career. And that ain’t happening.

Lillard’s decline, whether it be gradual or sudden, is just around the corner.

 

[MickZagger]

Still Pass. Enjoy the Dame ride. We all hope Shaedon is a generational talent as well. And if he is, It will make Joe's job, and Dame's desires , easier to achieve. I'm gonna live in the now, tomorrow isn't a given. Especially at 59.

Enjoy the Lillard ride…

Until we regret that they weren’t more forward thinking…

 

[MickZagger]

Dame is great wife material in this scenerio. He's hot, loyal, and brings the goods. It's the kids, and the In laws, that are destroying the relationship.

What’s going to be worse, a gradual decline where he strings us along with glimpses at times of what he once was, or a sudden one where we can’t salvage anything for him.

Either way we’ll still be meddling in mediocrity like we have to past decade plus.

 

[Mediocre Man]

CP3's almost 38.

Using a player as an example who

A. Has never won
B. Is an entirely different type of player
C. Has been surrounded by great players.

Is a stretch

To put it in perspective, we don’t have enough assets to trade for the asset that brought Durant to the Suns

 

[Mediocre Man]

In sports projecting young players is huge to teams. I’m pretty sure the consensus is that Sharpe is going to be really special among GM’s. He’s still 19.

That said Cronin would have to be an idiot to trade Sharpe.

If I had to choose between Lillard and Sharpe, taking into account their age. I’d take Sharpe EASILY.

The only way we’ll win a championship with Lillard imo is by getting a player better than him at this stage in his career. And that ain’t happening.

Lillard’s decline, whether it be gradual or sudden, is just around the corner.

Never agreed with you more

 

[illmatic99]

Full rebuild right here.

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People here bitch incessantly about Nurks deal but would be ok with Duncan Robinson's contract? One pick is not enough incentive to take that on, and we give up Dame? I dont think we are close to getting the kinda value we should be getting.

This is about what Utah got for Gobert.