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dviss1 said:
Huge overpay for either of them.
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I'm less concerned about winning deals, I just want to win games. Danny Ainge is the argument against putting value first in all of your deals. Look at the Celtics now....

To me, next year is the best chance we will have at winning a title in the foreseeable future. We are in Dame's absolute prime. Golden State won't have Klay and KD even if both resign. The Lakers have 3 players on their team. Houston is at the verge of imploding. I want to see Olshey go for it just one time instead of playing around the margins. He just got a contract extension, his financial security is safe even if he gets fired. If it takes an extra first round pick to get a deal done, well, that's one less Caleb Swanigan....
 
B-Roy said:
Fuck it. In light of this Conley trade, I'd be willing to trade 3 1sts for Griffin. 25 + 2 future firsts or 25 + 1 future first + Simons.

I'll even give two firsts for Kevin Love if they take all 3 of our albatrosses and they throw in JR Smith's partially guaranteed contract. Should open up some room for the full MLE.
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Haha. Oh no, Conley got traded! Everyone make panic moves and overpay for horrible contracts!
 
CupWizier said:
Those tweets say to me. If you want me Boston you better open up your wallets more. I still say Boston is the front runners though.
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Not sure about that, I can see him wanting to hook ring chase at his age.
 
B-Roy said:
I'm less concerned about winning deals, I just want to win games. Danny Ainge is the argument against putting value first in all of your deals. Look at the Celtics now....

To me, next year is the best chance we will have at winning a title in the foreseeable future. We are in Dame's absolute prime. Golden State won't have Klay and KD even if both resign. The Lakers have 3 players on their team. Houston is at the verge of imploding. I want to see Olshey go for it just one time instead of playing around the margins. He just got a contract extension, his financial security is safe even if he gets fired. If it takes an extra first round pick to get a deal done, well, that's one less Caleb Swanigan....
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Cant win games with injured players. BOTH of those albatross contracts are on damaged goods.
 
dviss1 said:
Cant win games with injured players. BOTH of those albatross contracts are on damaged goods.
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Blake was All NBA third team this year and absolutely carried his piss poor team into the playoffs. That's not damaged goods.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Blake was All NBA third team this year and absolutely carried his piss poor team into the playoffs. That's not damaged goods.
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Aaaannnnnnd... Injured in the playoffs....
 
Hoopguru said:
Not sure about that, I can see him wanting to hook ring chase at his age.
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and Boston has the assets to contend as much as anybody if they are able to re-sign Horford and Rozier along with some tweaks.
 
B-Roy said:
So place him under "load management" for the season. Worked pretty well for an unnamed finals MVP....
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A healthy Blake is worth every penny of his contract. If we can work through the regular season with decent depth and have him available for multiple rounds in the playoffs, we would be a perennial title contender (esp if we still retain CJ/Nurk).

I've been all on board Blake since he got to DET. My suspicion is that Neil is as well after his comments after the deadline in FEB. Only question is if DET is ready to blow it up.
 
yuyuza1 said:
You mean like half the other stars in the league who carry a massive workload?
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Man, stop with that. We all know how injury prone both of them are. Now you're minimizing.

Both of them are on massive, albatross like deals and both of them are very injury prone. These are facts.
 
dviss1 said:
Man, stop with that. We all know how injury prone both of them are. Now you're minimizing.

Both of them are on massive, albatross like deals and both of them are very injury prone. These are facts.
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You called an all nba player damaged goods. Not sure you understand what that means.
 
B-Roy said:
So manage his load for the season. Worked pretty well for an unnamed finals MVP....
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Really? Kawhi Leonard played a record 39 minutes a game in the Post season. That's a full 400+ more minutes than he played when he won his first finals MVP.

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There was no load mgmt.
 

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yuyuza1 said:
You called an all nba player damaged goods. Not sure you understand what that means.
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He's fucking injured near every season. He may have matured but he's punching walls and breaking his hand. He has an attitude problem and always has.

Got into a fight with the trainer. Pulled a guy's face toward is SACK on national television.

He is damaged goods literally.
 
@dviss1 I noticed a players character is very important to you. You hate LA and Griffin it seems for there behavior, I can tell. Nothing wrong with that. Curious how you felt about the Jail Blazers. They were bad boys, but they won a lot.
I think a little toughness and bad boy is what this team needs. Just a dash.
 
ThePosterFormerlyKnownAsTheHCP said:
@dviss1 I noticed a players character is very important to you. You hate LA and Griffin it seems for there behavior, I can tell. Nothing wrong with that. Curious how you felt about the Jail Blazers. They were bad boys, but they won a lot.
I think a little toughness and bad boy is what this team needs. Just a dash.
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What did the Jail Blazers win exactly? We got to the WCF without a single bad character guy on the team (unless you believe Turkey that Kanter is a terrorist).
 
Regular Season:

Griffin: 21159 minutes played, 604 games
Dame: 19907 minutes played, 549 games

Playoffs:

Griffin: 1870 minutes played, 53 games
Dame: 2067 minutes played, 51 games

Blake is only a year older than Dame. He's in his absolute prime.
 
hoopsjock said:
What did the Jail Blazers win exactly? We got to the WCF without a single bad character guy on the team (unless you believe Turkey that Kanter is a terrorist).
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I just said they won a lot....... of games.
 
At some point if you believe in this culture setting mumbo jumbo with Dame, then you should believe that we are capable of taking in a few bad eggs and rehabbing their character. Not that I'm saying Blake is that, by all accounts he's been a excellent leader for that Detroit team.
 
ThePosterFormerlyKnownAsTheHCP said:
@dviss1 I noticed a players character is very important to you. You hate LA and Griffin it seems for there behavior, I can tell. Nothing wrong with that. Curious how you felt about the Jail Blazers. They were bad boys, but they won a lot.
I think a little toughness and bad boy is what this team needs. Just a dash.
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Hated Patterson for obvious reasons. Hated Sheed's antics on the court with officials and the towel incident. Hated Pippen's NON leadership control of the team. Hated Steve smith's lack of leadership too.

Hated Damon's contract, elbow jumper, and felt he was overrated. I rooted for them but did not like them. I was pissed when Sheed fired a basketball into Ruben boumtje-boumtje's back.

I woulda chased that MF around with a pole Ha style if he did that shit to me.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Regular Season:

Griffin: 21159 minutes played, 604 games
Dame: 19907 minutes played, 549 games

Playoffs:

Griffin: 1870 minutes played, 53 games
Dame: 2067 minutes played, 51 games

Blake is only a year older than Dame. He's in his absolute prime.
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Why do you gloss over the obvious when you try to prove a point? Stop spinning shit.

Let's not forget Blake Griffin sat out his entire 09' rookie season.

So in his 10 year career he's had 3 seasons where he played 80+ games. He was injured 6 seasons.

If we trade for him Blake will do what he does near every season:

Get injured in the playoffs. :smiley-ko:

Then, as he watches from the sidelines, we watch our playoffs hopes go down the drain. :dunno:

Then there's this:

Blake Griffin signed a 5 year / $171,174,820 contract with the Los Angeles Clippers, including $171,174,820 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $34,234,964. In 2018-19, Griffin will earn a base salary of $31,873,932, while carrying a cap hit of $32,088,932 and a dead cap value of $141,661,920.

And bro.... FUCK THAT...
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Also, not only is he injury prone and MAD expensive, he's a fucking DICK.

Now, have a look at this hot white lady showing Blake's dickliness:

 
What spin? I showed facts.

There's obviously a reason why we would even entertain the thought of acquiring Griffin for Evan Turner and garbage picks. If he had a perfectly clean bill of health, he wouldn't even be in discussion for our bullshit package.
 
hoopsjock said:
So has this team with good guys on it. You're not making a very strong case.
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My bad. I didn’t look at any link. I just assumed the Jail Blazers were a more dominant team than this current one. Higher winning %.
 
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