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We have one forum member who works with mentally challenged individuals and another member who has a family member who is mentally challenged, both have asked very nicely for people to not use the re**** and t*** . I think that is very reasonable request.
omg so authoritative and so leftist! This place is a cesspool

Lol
 
omg so authoritative and so leftist! This place is a cesspool

Lol

I don't think you did this correctly. Or you were being sarcastic about your "lol" and really meant what you said?

NOTE: I don't blame you for your feelings either way. Other than your use of "cesspool".
 
I don't think you did this correctly. Or you were being sarcastic about your "lol" and really meant what you said?

NOTE: I don't blame you for your feelings either way. Other than your use of "cesspool".
I didn’t do it the way we used to do it. The lol in green is to show the whole thing was sarcasm
 
2 weeks to flatten the curve was termed early on, probably March 2020. It certainly wasn't summer or fall. By that time, the masks and social distancing were mandated until a vaccine was to be released.
I've never heard it before now.
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...fully-vaccinated-Americans-return-normal.html

Fully vaccinated Americans can go maskless outside - EXCEPT when attending crowded events like a concert, parade or baseball game, CDC finally says


  • Fully vaccinated people can now shed their masks outdoors for just about any activity - unless it involves a crowd, the CDC said on Tuesday
  • People who have not been vaccinated can also go maskless at small outdoor gatherings with vaccinated people or while exercising outside
  • But the CDC says everyone - vaccinated or unvaccinated - is 'safest' with a mask while doing any indoor activity
  • Unvaccinated people can also lose their masks when exercising outside or getting together with small groups of vaccinated people outdoors
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...fully-vaccinated-Americans-return-normal.html

Fully vaccinated Americans can go maskless outside - EXCEPT when attending crowded events like a concert, parade or baseball game, CDC finally says


  • Fully vaccinated people can now shed their masks outdoors for just about any activity - unless it involves a crowd, the CDC said on Tuesday
  • People who have not been vaccinated can also go maskless at small outdoor gatherings with vaccinated people or while exercising outside
  • But the CDC says everyone - vaccinated or unvaccinated - is 'safest' with a mask while doing any indoor activity
  • Unvaccinated people can also lose their masks when exercising outside or getting together with small groups of vaccinated people outdoors

Lol. Oh can they? I’m sure they’ll be glad to join the rest of us.
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...fully-vaccinated-Americans-return-normal.html

Fully vaccinated Americans can go maskless outside - EXCEPT when attending crowded events like a concert, parade or baseball game, CDC finally says


  • Fully vaccinated people can now shed their masks outdoors for just about any activity - unless it involves a crowd, the CDC said on Tuesday
  • People who have not been vaccinated can also go maskless at small outdoor gatherings with vaccinated people or while exercising outside
  • But the CDC says everyone - vaccinated or unvaccinated - is 'safest' with a mask while doing any indoor activity
  • Unvaccinated people can also lose their masks when exercising outside or getting together with small groups of vaccinated people outdoors
I may ramble because I am so confused, so please forgive me.

My family has been very conservative throughout the pandemic, we wear masks and think they work - long before Covid-19. My wife is Chinese and I've been told by my MIL to wear a mask outside for years! We have kept our daughter home from school all year and taught her from home, even after her school opened back up in January.

Ok, so it is my understanding that having the vaccine (fortunately have received already) doesn't prevent you from getting Covid-19 but essentially prevents you from having a severe case (this is what I have read - please correct me if wrong). In this case, even having the vaccine, you still can get it and spread it just as easily. I've also read and my understanding is that wearing a mask is more so for the other people around you so that you don't give them Covid-19, not to necessarily prevent you from getting it.

If my understanding and assumptions above are correct, how can vaccinated people go around and be safe not wearing masks if they can still get it and still spread it to others? Please correct my misunderstandings because my head is spinning.

I definitely want to see things back to normal and prefer not to wear a mask, but will do what is best for those around us and for my family.
 
Masks work both ways.

Generally, outdoor transmission out of very packed events is unlikely, that's why the recommendation reads as it does
 
I may ramble because I am so confused, so please forgive me.

My family has been very conservative throughout the pandemic, we wear masks and think they work - long before Covid-19. My wife is Chinese and I've been told by my MIL to wear a mask outside for years! We have kept our daughter home from school all year and taught her from home, even after her school opened back up in January.

Ok, so it is my understanding that having the vaccine (fortunately have received already) doesn't prevent you from getting Covid-19 but essentially prevents you from having a severe case (this is what I have read - please correct me if wrong). In this case, even having the vaccine, you still can get it and spread it just as easily. I've also read and my understanding is that wearing a mask is more so for the other people around you so that you don't give them Covid-19, not to necessarily prevent you from getting it.

If my understanding and assumptions above are correct, how can vaccinated people go around and be safe not wearing masks if they can still get it and still spread it to others? Please correct my misunderstandings because my head is spinning.

I definitely want to see things back to normal and prefer not to wear a mask, but will do what is best for those around us and for my family.

So far studies show that once you are fully vaccinated you will not get the virus and you will not pass it on. I think the CDC is being overly cautious.

https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/spread-covid-after-vaccine
 
Of course you can get covid while vaccinated, your body is just able to fight it which usually means your symptoms are not that bad and you can spread it for less time.

A vaccine is not a wall, it's a bunch of trained ninjas that can identify and fight the intruders
 
i think this has been debunked?

I would also think that if fully-vaccinated were still able to catch COVID, which has happened, that alone debunks this. Or am I missing something?

I don't think it has been debunked. There are always exceptions to the rule. The data shows that fully vaccinated people almost never pass the virus on.
 
I don't think it has been debunked. There are always exceptions to the rule. The data shows that fully vaccinated people almost never pass the virus on.

your first statement basically made it final. Your next statement backed down from that. It’s a small percentage, but at least 6,000 fully vaccinated Americans. That’s all I’m saying.
 
6,000 breakthrough cases out of 84,000,000 vaccinated.

So 1 in 14,000 could catch covid. And less than 1% of those will need hospitalized.

Why are we arguing over such vanishingly small odds? This literally means once you get fully vaccinated (and wait 2 weeks) you don't have to worry about it.
 
I may ramble because I am so confused, so please forgive me.

My family has been very conservative throughout the pandemic, we wear masks and think they work - long before Covid-19. My wife is Chinese and I've been told by my MIL to wear a mask outside for years! We have kept our daughter home from school all year and taught her from home, even after her school opened back up in January.

Ok, so it is my understanding that having the vaccine (fortunately have received already) doesn't prevent you from getting Covid-19 but essentially prevents you from having a severe case (this is what I have read - please correct me if wrong). In this case, even having the vaccine, you still can get it and spread it just as easily. I've also read and my understanding is that wearing a mask is more so for the other people around you so that you don't give them Covid-19, not to necessarily prevent you from getting it.

If my understanding and assumptions above are correct, how can vaccinated people go around and be safe not wearing masks if they can still get it and still spread it to others? Please correct my misunderstandings because my head is spinning.

I definitely want to see things back to normal and prefer not to wear a mask, but will do what is best for those around us and for my family.
You are correct, but to clarify, getting the vaccine only means you are mostly immune from getting the virus, not 100%. You are so immune that the chances of you spreading the disease are so slight that the spread of the disease will slowly fade out.
 
Of course it doesn't.
I'm just implying that it wasn't widely known.

To be honest, it was all over my FB feed. Not saying it was “widely known” but from my perspective/vantage point, it was. There were a ton of graphics in my feed for a month where it definitely felt like it was being used as a buzz word. I’m sure that’s why others are saying it’s been out there for a while. And for someone who might not be on social media as much (I don’t know if you are), I’d certainly understand why you’d feel like it wasn’t a well-known a year ago.
 
Newsflash:
Droplets in air don't spread the same as pee in a pool.

Which reminds me of the old adage: A smoking section in a restaurant would be akin to a peeing section in a pool.
 
Which reminds me of the old adage: A smoking section in a restaurant would be akin to a peeing section in a pool.
Newsflash:
Droplets large enough to carry significant amounts of virus do not spread in air the same way smoke spreads in air.
 
ABM: *doesn't understand the difference between viruses and urine or smoke*
Also ABM: *sarcastically thanks people for explaining to him the difference*
 
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