The Official University/College Discussion Thread (NSFW)

[deception]

<div class="quote_poster">Karma Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Commerce is business/accounting, and business = math, and math means my failure. My cousin took the BBA degree at UTSC and he said Commerce is somewhat easier then that, but still difficult nonetheless. It requires a lot of math as well. I am horrible with numbers.

For political science (or any other social science), I think one of the requirements is a science course, and I've already checked out the course descriptions, most of which say that the math requirement for "natural science" courses are "minimum grade 10 skills".

Since I actually got a 47 in Grade 10 math, I'm not quite confident heading into that category.
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i took a bunch of management courses and don't remember doing much math, aside from the basic stuff of course.

 

[Voodoo Child]

<div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I got a 1900 on the SATs: 690 for Reading, 650 for Math, and 560 for Writing. VC, what kind of colleges would accept me with those kinds of scores if I don't retake them again?</div>

Those are great scores, sans the writing (which is odd because you're such a good writer on JBB

), so it really depends on the college. M.I.T., for example, doesn't give a **** about your Verbal or Writing scores, just your Math really.

Here's a great list of the top American colleges (most people generally regard this list as the most legitimate list out there) -

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/r...tudoc_brief.php

Out of those schools, here are some colleges I think you'd have a chance at with those scores -

V = Average Verbal, M = Average Math

Southern Cal (V: 665, M: 690)
Boston College (V: 655, M: 680)
Georgia Tech (V: 650, M: 695)
College of William and Mary (V: 680, M: 670)
Vanderbilt (V: 685, M: 700)
Case Western Reserve (V: 650, M: 690)
Wake Forest (V: 660, M: 675)
University of Washington (V: 590, M: 620)

What kind of schools are you looking at?

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Aznx, from what I heard, a 1900 should be good for every school outside of Ivy League. Or something like that.</div>

That's not true at all. Some of the hardest schools in America to get into aren't Ivy League schools. Wash U. in STL, M.I.T., Cal-Tech, Michigan, UCLA, UNC, Duke, and Notre Dame, among others, are all arguably harder to get into.

American schools also put a lot of emphasis on your high school transcript, your extracurricular activities, your recommendation letters, and you admissions essays. A good test score is far from a sure-fire ticket to get into a good college.

 

[Ming637]

Are student loans a good option when entering college?

 

[Voodoo Child]

<div class="quote_poster">Will637 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Are student loans a good option when entering college?</div>

Without question. If you've been accepted, colleges <u>want</u> you to attend, and they want you to be able to pay. Most loans are very flexible and don't have practically any interest on them.

 

[Chuck]

<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">2080? **** me, what is that on a scale of 1600? IE: What did you get on Math and Verbal, respectively? The 2400 scale is ****** up.

BTW - What do you mean by 'no prep'? Preparation? Who the **** studies for the SAT anyway?</div>

What'd you get on the 1600 version?
I got 750 math (I missed 2 of the 58

) and 660 on the verbal. And uh, I only got 2 hours of xanax induced sleep beforehand.

Why is this thread NSFW by the way?

 

[Voodoo Child]

<div class="quote_poster">Chuck Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What'd you get on the 1600 version?
I got 750 math (I missed 2 of the 58

) and 660 on the verbal. And uh, I only got 2 hours of xanax induced sleep beforehand.

Why is this thread NSFW by the way?</div>

I honestly don't remember, and I'm not just saying that because I'm embarrassed or anything. I just don't have my scores in front of me. They were probably lower than yours though. Either way, I sent my ACT scores off to most colleges instead, because I got a composite of 34. That's how I got accepted into a few Ivies with my shitty high school transcript. It's crazy, because I'm not that bright of a guy. I just know the rules of grammar well, mostly from posting on sites like this, and that's about 90% of the ACT. Oh well, I'm not going to complain...

@ NSFW

I just put that up there to bust Karma's balls.

 

[Chuck]

<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I honestly don't remember, and I'm not just saying that because I'm embarrassed or anything. I just don't have my scores in front of me. They were probably lower than yours though. Either way, I sent my ACT scores off to most colleges instead, because I got a composite of 34. That's how I got accepted into a few Ivies with my shitty high school transcript. It's crazy, because I'm not that bright of a guy. I just know the rules of grammar well, mostly from posting on sites like this, and that's about 90% of the ACT. Oh well, I'm not going to complain...

@ NSFW

I just put that up there to bust Karma's balls.</div>
That's a hell of an ACT score. I never took the ACT. Didn't need to. I had no intention of applying to go out of state

I wanted to find the school that was going to pay me the most dough to go there. Of course, it was in my city. I liked to imagine myself as a free agent in the NBA, my hometown was signing me, giving me a fat contract via bird rights.

@ NSFW indeed. I was going through the thread trying to figure out what the hell was wrong with it.

 

[Voodoo Child]

<div class="quote_poster">Chuck Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's a hell of an ACT score. I never took the ACT. Didn't need to. I had no intention of applying to go out of state

I wanted to find the school that was going to pay me the most dough to go there. Of course, it was in my city. I liked to imagine myself as a free agent in the NBA, my hometown was signing me, giving me a fat contract via bird rights.

@ NSFW indeed. I was going through the thread trying to figure out what the hell was wrong with it.</div>

Haha, yeah, I know what you mean. Unfortunately, I was kinda rebellious in high school and wanted to get the **** outta town. I had lots of friends and stuff, but for some reason I just thought life would be so much easier out of town, so I pretty much blew off all of the financial packages that in-state schools could offer. In hindsight, it was a mistake, because I look back on my time down south as some of the best times of my life. It's too fucking cold up north.

That's something all you stupid canucks need to keep in mind. It's warm almost year-round in a lot of America.

(I don't get it either.)

 

[Karma]

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American schools also put a lot of emphasis on your high school transcript, your extracurricular activities, your recommendation letters, and you admissions essays. A good test score is far from a sure-fire ticket to get into a good college.
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Canadian Uni's, atleast in Ontario from what I've heard, don't really care about your extracurriculars all that much, nor your reccomendation letters. We only have to do admission essays or "profiles" if your average is around the cutoff for your program I believe. I was actually going to get some reccomendation letters but my cousin told me not to bother with it as it doesn't really make a difference. If your marks are high enough, you'll get in.

 

[AznxBaller]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo:</div><div class="quote_post">Those are great scores, sans the writing (which is odd because you're such a good writer on JBB ), so it really depends on the college. M.I.T., for example, doesn't give a **** about your Verbal or Writing scores, just your Math really. </div>
Yeah, the essay really killed me. I'm the type of essay writer that needs to think about what he's doing before actually putting it on paper. But on the SATs, for whatever reason they only give you a limited amount of time to write it. I pretty much spent five minutes procrastinating, then the rest rushing through it blindly.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo:</div><div class="quote_post">
What kind of schools are you looking at?
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I'm looking more towards the upper tier schools, probably just below the Ivy League range. I know I won't be able to get in with the 1900 I got on the SATs, but I'll be retaking those sometime later. Hopefully I'll be getting somewhere around a 2000 the second time around. Some schools I'm looking at though are NYU, UPenn, Columbia, BC, and UCLA (longshot).

 

[Chuck]

Wait, MIT doesn't care about anything but your math score? I got a 750 out of 800-- but isn't their average even higher than that? I should've applied!!!!
The math SAT seems too easy to give so much weight to.

 

[Voodoo Child]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm looking more towards the upper tier schools, probably just below the Ivy League range. I know I won't be able to get in with the 1900 I got on the SATs, but I'll be retaking those sometime later. Hopefully I'll be getting somewhere around a 2000 the second time around. Some schools I'm looking at though are NYU, UPenn, Columbia, BC, and UCLA (longshot).</div>

Ah, so you're looking at urban schools? All of those colleges are in the heart of a major U.S. city. I personally love the city, but I would hate to spend my four years in college downtown. That's why I decided to not go to Penn. To each his own though, because those are all great schools academically. (You realize that Penn and Columbia are Ivy's btw, right? Kind of threw me off with that 'just below the Ivy League range' comment.)

Honestly, those schools all seem like reaches with your current scores, even if you improved your scores by 100 points, but like I said earlier, American schools take into consideration a variety of factors, not just test scores. What are your grades like? If they're strong enough, you can still be a legitimate candidate with those test scores.

<div class="quote_poster">Chuck Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Wait, MIT doesn't care about anything but your math score? I got a 750 out of 800-- but isn't their average even higher than that? I should've applied!!!!
The math SAT seems too easy to give so much weight to.</div>

Well, they're a technical college, so they usually give preferrence to students who are inclined in the maths and sciences. They're the most selective college in America though, so a 750 far from guarantees you admission, especially when they get thousands of applicants with perfect or near perfect scores, especially on the SATII's, which are important for M.I.T.'s admissions board in particular. In fact, I think I heard their average accepted early action applicant had around a 780 on the SAT's math section. M.I.T. also places more emphasis than any other school out there on student talent. That means things like winning national science fairs, building or maintaining some sort of piece of complicated technology, or winning the national math bowl. You also have to consider that M.I.T. has more international applicants than most colleges.

I don't think though, just going off of your online personality, that you'd enjoy M.I.T. I hated it when I visited it. Everyone there looks like they haven't been out in the sun in the past year, and they're all very arrogant, socially akward pricks. Who the **** wants to go to a school like that?

 

[AznxBaller]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo:</div><div class="quote_post">Ah, so you're looking at urban schools? All of those colleges are in the heart of a major U.S. city. I personally love the city, but I would hate to spend my four years in college downtown. That's why I decided to not go to Penn. To each his own though, because those are all great schools academically. (You realize that Penn and Columbia are Ivy's btw, right? Kind of threw me off with that 'just below the Ivy League range' comment.)

Honestly, those schools all seem like reaches with your current scores, even if you improved your scores by 100 points, but like I said earlier, American schools take into consideration a variety of factors, not just test scores. What are your grades like? If they're strong enough, you can still be a legitimate candidate with those test scores.
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Yeah, I forgot Penn's an Ivy...

I don't know, urban schools just seem much more appealing to me. Personally I enjoy spending my time in cities much more where you don't have to drive everywhere just to get around. Its probably hype, but there just seems to be more things to do in the city as compared to the suburbia's of the US. Basically Penn, Columbia, and UCLA I consider to be long shots since I realize there's perhaps thousands more out there with higher scores and better grades applying to those same schools. Well, currently my extra curricular's decent. I'm in the National Honors Society (high grades school service kind of thing), Key Club (community service), volunteering at a hospital, track, cross country, and intramural basketball. My grades are pretty decent, around the 3.8-3.9 GPA range but I'm taking a fair amount of AP classes (3 this year, 4 next).