Notice THE OFFICIAL WNBA CBA Lockout/Strike Thread………

[SharpesTriumph]

Wait what gas station manager makes 250K a year? I have a hard time believing that.
I agree they should get a raise but the league needs to start making money.

Now one point though. That gas station is probably making a bunch of money every day.

There very nice gas stations, but yeah I was surprised when I saw the sign in person and it was over $200k

 

[SharpesTriumph]

CC me when you get a reply regarding the $250k/yr gas station manager.

I've seen the signs in person many times for years at the Bucee's gas stations. Its not your 2 pump gas station next to a 7 eleven though, we do things bigger in Texas

 

[SharpesTriumph]

We take our Tesla or Rivian to charge at Bucee a lot on long drives too - in addition to gas pumps they have like no exaggeration 50 Tesla superchargers at some of them and its a nice spot to browse for a snack or use clean bathrooms while you charge.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Interesting tidbit on bucees - they spend nothing on advertising except for roadside billboards.

I couldn't believe when I was on the freeway in California and saw this one



Just imagine how many people pass this every day and have zero idea what its for.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

From what I've read, I believe they are profitable (even with the WNBA's creative calculations) if you include the new media rights deal. The NBA would need to take a much smaller cut to get the players to 50% of basketball related revenue.

If they aren't willing to do that I am fully on board with the players starting their own league. Get some billionaires to help start it up and hire some elite executives to make it as profitable as possible while still paying the players 50% of basketball related revenue. This league would get all of the best talent.

Then if the NBA still wants a piece of the action it can buy the league out (as long as the players approve the sale).

Once you start setting this in motion I expect the WNBA and NBA will be far more motivated. I think the players would even happily accept a path to 50% of basketball related revenue within 5 years.

I think something along those lines would be a good type of compromise - have a few years the owners get a bit more to reimburse for prior losses then eventually the players get 50% for the long term.

Even if they don't do that though the owners are getting a ton of appreciation in their investment and could sell the franchises for massive gains. They bough into this league and started it up when it cost nothing.

It kind of the standard trick owners do where they cry and whine about how their losing so much every season - meanwhile years later they sell the team and rake in billions without having to give the players a dime.

 

[kjironman1]

You can't stop them from working if they don't have a contract.

The NBA can't tie it up. That would be kicked out of court almost instantly.

I’m thinking you are wrong on that. To start a new league you have to have venues and some form of tv deal. You would have to have sponsors and unless they tried to go completely independent from any current Venues, tv and sponsorship they could be tied up in court.
Going completely independent would be fruitless at best. They wouldn’t even garner the minimum levels they have now.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I’m thinking you are wrong on that. To start a new league you have to have venues and some form of tv deal. You would have to have sponsors and unless they tried to go completely independent from any current Venues, tv and sponsorship they could be tied up in court.
Going completely independent would be fruitless at best. They wouldn’t even garner the minimum levels they have now.

They could play in college stadiums.

I'm sure a competing network or streamer would love to get those games.

I doubt sponsorships would be much of a problem if you were truly starting a competing league.

The reality is, the NBA and other owners would cave long before it ever got to this point.

If all you did was made equivalent money it would still be worth it as long as you have the 50% revenue share.

 

[THE HCP]

Buc-ee’s…….nicest bathrooms around.

 

[inconceivable]

Buc-ee’s…….nicest bathrooms around.

better than Rimskys?

 

[kjironman1]

They could play in college stadiums.

I'm sure a competing network or streamer would love to get those games.

I doubt sponsorships would be much of a problem if you were truly starting a competing league.

The reality is, the NBA and other owners would cave long before it ever got to this point.

If all you did was made equivalent money it would still be worth it as long as you have the 50% revenue share.

So you think they could keep that league up and running using small venues and grabbing some streaming source without any major network. Then not getting anything from the main sponsors that the NBA uses?

I think it wouldn't last a year doing that.

The WNBA makes no money and is a bust at this point. One maybe two players are known beyond the city they play for. Would you invest in that?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

One maybe two players are known beyond the city they play for.

Claims like these are the kind that undermine any legitimate point you might be trying to make

 

[Phatguysrule]

So you think they could keep that league up and running using small venues and grabbing some streaming source without any major network. Then not getting anything from the main sponsors that the NBA uses?

I think it wouldn't last a year doing that.

The WNBA makes no money and is a bust at this point. One maybe two players are known beyond the city they play for. Would you invest in that?

I think you'd go into it expecting to do that for the first year or two until it became obvious that the WNBA was not going to come around.

At that point I think the other sponsors and venues would free up. As would major network backing.

I would certainly rather go that route than accept less than 50% of basketball related revenue long-term from the WNBA.

Would I invest in that if I were Lorraine Powell jobs? Melinda Gates? Mackenzie Scott? Oprah Winfrey? Alice Walton?

Yeah, I think I would... I think a case could be made that these women would have a lot of motivation to float a league like this for a few years, And then start accepting paybacks that give the players 50% of basketball related revenue.

That would be an awesome move for equality for women. What a great story.

 

[kjironman1]

Claims like these are the kind that undermine any legitimate point you might be trying to make

Believe me. They don't.
There are now 15 teams. How many players can you honestly name on the Seattle team just north without looking it up. I personally can't name one player.
And I'm a basketball fan....
Hell I can barely name all the Blazers at this point.

 

[kjironman1]

I think you'd go into it expecting to do that for the first year or two until it became obvious that the WNBA was not going to come around.

At that point I think the other sponsors and venues would free up. As would major network backing.

I would certainly rather go that route than accept less than 50% of basketball related revenue long-term from the WNBA.

Would I invest in that if I were Lorraine Powell jobs? Melinda Gates? Mackenzie Scott? Oprah Winfrey? Alice Walton?

Yeah, I think I would... I think a case could be made that these women would have a lot of motivation to float a league like this for a few years, And then start accepting paybacks that give the players 50% of basketball related revenue.

That would be an awesome move for equality for women. What a great story.

I honestly just don't see it at all. I would never put my money there but yes i could see someone with a lot more than me making a choice to subsidize a league for a while. If anything for the tax benefits at the very least. Yes those are very wealthy women that might be looking to finance a women's cause and yes they might sustain it long enough to get it to start turning at least even money. How on earth could they ever give up 50% of the revenue though?

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Believe me. They don't.
There are now 15 teams. How many players can you honestly name on the Seattle team just north without looking it up. I personally can't name one player.
And I'm a basketball fan....
Hell I can barely name all the Blazers at this point.

The WNBA signed a 2.2 billion TV deal. Women college and youth basketball has a much bigger following than decades ago.

Just because you and a bunch of old people on S2 don't follow it doesn't mean nobody else does.