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If it was ever discovered that this Osama thing was a fake, that would fuel the terrorist around the world and put the US on a international level almost as bad as the terrorists. It could well start war with Pakistan as we basically said thier country is harboring terrorists and are uncapable of controlling this in their own country.

What president would ever agree to do this? Not Bush, Not Obama, not anyone who will hold the position of president of the US, IMO.
 
The Professional Fan said:
God damn. This thread is fucking annoying.

I don't give a fuck what the US did to his dead body. However, it's a smart move releasing the information that we buried him at sea, after he had been "washed" and put in a clean white sheet. This is an islamic law/rule/whatever. Smart move by the US. No need to get these wacko fundamentalists even more pissed off at us.

Complaining about the story "changing" is ludicrous to me. In this day and age every one is so hot and bothered for information RIGHT FUCKING NOW. This kind of instant demand forces the ones with the information to release their information hastily. As time goes on, and more information is acquired, the historical scope of the topic will certainly be altered.

Not every thing is a fucking conspiracy. It's so "hip" and "cool" these days to be on the side of a conspiracy. It's so dumb. Yes, our government lies to us. I get it. But in this circumstance I believe we killed that bearded cvnt rag. Every thing else is irrelevant.
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None of us asked the administration to announce this death on the same day that it happened. If you don't want to know details, that's your issue, but I don't see how getting upset at someone for pointing out that the official story has changed makes much sense. The smart move, IMO, would have been to go through the intel gathered at OBL's house, see if there were any active leads, and then release the information about his death, along with videos and photos, after knowing what intel that was gathered was actionable.

The White House didn't do that, and now they have put themselves in the situation of trying to get ahead of their own story.

I'm glad OBL is dead, and I'd like to see confirmation of it for my own mind, and not just a third-hand story about a body dumped into the ocean.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
That and they are racist homophobes who are worse than hitler.

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Treaty_of_Batum said:
If it was ever discovered that this Osama thing was a fake, that would fuel the terrorist around the world and put the US on a international level almost as bad as the terrorists. It could well start war with Pakistan as we basically said thier country is harboring terrorists and are uncapable of controlling this in their own country.

What president would ever agree to do this? Not Bush, Not Obama, not anyone who will hold the position of president of the US, IMO.
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The guys been dead for years...thats the problem
 
Our government and military never lie, just ask Pat Tillman's family.

That Waldo/Osama tshirt is hilarious!
 
PapaG said:
None of us asked the administration to announce this death on the same day that it happened.
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But you'd certainly be complaining about it if they waited. In fact, I seem to remember you complaining about them waiting a week to announce it, back when you mistaken thought that it happened a week ago.


I'm glad OBL is dead, and I'd like to see confirmation of it for my own mind, and not just a third-hand story about a body dumped into the ocean.
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Well, then what you need to do is simple. Get a big pile of money, and fund an expedition to retrieve Osama's body from the Indian Ocean.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Well, then what you need to do is simple. Get a big pile of money, and fund an expedition to retrieve Osama's body from the Indian Ocean.
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The government likely lied about which ocean they dumped it in. In fact, they probably just dumped it in the Hudson River.
 
Minstrel said:
The government likely lied about which ocean they dumped it in. In fact, they probably just dumped it in the Hudson River.
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It's worth checking there first.

barfo
 
new account is that bin laden wasn't even armed.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54162.html

Carney read a statement to reporters Tuesday seeking to clarify discrepancies. He said bin Laden “was not armed.” When a U.S. “assaulter” approached bin Laden, the Al Qaeda leader’s “wife” rushed the assaulter. That woman was shot but not killed, Carney said.

“What is true,” Carney said, is that “we provided a great deal of information with great haste.”

“Obviously, some of the information was — came in piece by piece and is being reviewed and updated and elaborated upon,” he said.

Carney told reporters that “resistance does not require a firearm” but directed questions about how bin Laden “resisted” to the Pentagon.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54162.html#ixzz1LK3mwzsP
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bin laden tried that voodoo eyeball staring contest mind melter technique the cia taught him, and gi joe popped a cap in his ass before he was turned to stone
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
new account is that bin laden wasn't even armed.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54162.html
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“What is true,” Carney said, is that “we provided a great deal of information with great haste.”

“Obviously, some of the information was — came in piece by piece and is being reviewed and updated and elaborated upon,” he said.

Exactly. The public demands instant information, the government tried to provide what they had, hastily, hence the "story" becomes altered as more info is acquired.

Furthermore, I don't give a fuck if OBL was armed or not. Why take the chance? Just whack him.
 
exactly, if i was a navy seal, i would assume the guy was wired to a bomb or something anyways, take the fucking shot the very instant you have it
 
Its pretty incompetent for the intelligence community to provide "information with great haste" before verifying. What happened to "on a need to know basis".

Seems like they are more tweaking the story to best fit their agenda.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
exactly, if i was a navy seal, i would assume the guy was wired to a bomb or something anyways, take the fucking shot the very instant you have it
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I'm sure thats on the first day of training. "Assume a hostile that can provide valuable intelligence and information has a bomb wired to him, so its just to best shoot to kill and ask questions later. Oh wait, don't ask questions later".
 
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2011/05/20115319011610215.html

The Taliban in Afghanistan said on Tuesday that they questioned whether bin Laden was actually dead.

"As the Americans did not provide any acceptable evidence to back up their claim, and as the other aides close to Osama bin Laden have not confirmed or denied the death ... the Islamic Emirate considers any assertion premature," Zabihullah Mujahid, a Taliban spokesman, said.

The United Nations' top human rights official called on the US on Tuesday to give the UN details about bin Laden's killing and said that all counter-terrorism operations must respect international law.

"This was a complex operation and it would be helpful if we knew the precise facts surrounding his killing," Navi Pillay, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, said in a statement to the Reuters news agency.
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EL PRESIDENTE said:
I'm sure thats on the first day of training. "Assume a hostile that can provide valuable intelligence and information has a bomb wired to him, so its just to best shoot to kill and ask questions later. Oh wait, don't ask questions later".
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firefight in the dark, kill or be killed....

what are you saying? that we fucked up by killing him? i thought you didnt believe we actually did lol wtf
 
hahaha so you dont believe he is dead....but you believe the way we killed him is dumb....
lmao
 
3RA1N1AC said:
firefight in the dark, kill or be killed....

what are you saying? that we fucked up by killing him? i thought you didnt believe we actually did lol wtf
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Capture or Kill scenario. Most wanted man in the history of the United States. What is the better strategic victory here?

He's unarmed.

Killing him is the second best outcome.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Capture or Kill scenario. Most wanted man in the history of the United States. What is the better strategic victory here?

He's unarmed.

Killing him is the second best outcome.
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i completely disagree, if we had captured him, it would have been a fucking shitstorm, imagine all the groups taking hostages demanding his release, etc, you cant really believe that.

unless you know, they DID capture him, and this whole "he's dead" thing is just an excuse so we can torture his eyeballs until he dies in a hole somewhere.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
i completely disagree, if we had captured him, it would have been a fucking shitstorm, imagine all the groups taking hostages demanding his release, etc, you cant really believe that.

unless you know, they DID capture him, and this whole "he's dead" thing is just an excuse so we can torture his eyeballs until he dies in a hole somewhere.
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So do you believe Obama gave the order if he was able to be taken alive, to execute him?

remember: they follow orders or people die.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
So do you believe Obama gave the order if he was able to be taken alive, to execute him?

remember: they follow orders or people die.
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yes i do, clearly, it was the best scenario. unless like i said, his death is just a coverup for us to interrogate him.
 
do you really think capturing him would have been a good idea??? lol

haha yeah we could have put him on trial! :lol:
 
3RA1N1AC said:
do you really think capturing him would have been a good idea??? lol

haha yeah we could have put him on trial! :lol:
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The optimal strategy would have been to say he was dead. Send him to gitmo and torture the shit out of him until he was of no more use then kill him quietly. This feeds the conspiracy though that the US does not intend to "bring people to justice" rather execute them in black ops procedures all in the name of national pride.
 
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