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listen i think batum is a nice player but hes too limited on offense to start at SF. hopefully he proves me wrong but i dont think you can start him and miller. just doesnt work.

starting 5 should be

milller/blake
roy/rudy
webster/batum
aldridge/outhouse
oden/pryz
 
listen i think batum is a nice player but hes too limited on offense to start at SF. hopefully he proves me wrong but i dont think you can start him and miller. just doesnt work.

starting 5 should be

milller/blake
roy/rudy
webster/batum
aldridge/outhouse
oden/pryz

Webster has had one great quarter in his career. you remove that quarter and he sucks. Batum is already as good as Web on O and 10 times better on D.
 
Enter Mr Miller. I said a long long time ago this was our guy.

A lot of folks predicted this the day we traded Zach. This is the thing that makes me soooooo unenthusiastic about this off-season. Two years ago people were saying "Worse comes to worst we can sign Andre Miller" and it came to fruition. What a let down.

You know it's a lame off-season when the most exciting thing is that your second second round pick does well in summer league. But who knows, maybe Dante Cunningham will tear it up and be that scoring small forward you so desperately want.
 
A lot of folks predicted this the day we traded Zach. This is the thing that makes me soooooo unenthusiastic about this off-season. Two years ago people were saying "Worse comes to worst we can sign Andre Miller" and it came to fruition. What a let down.

You know it's a lame off-season when the most exciting thing is that your second second round pick does well in summer league. But who knows, maybe Dante Cunningham will tear it up and be that scoring small forward you so desperately want.

or you know that means you dont have to make firesale changes and you are already a good team.
 
yah this summer was a major letdown. even worse if LA doesn't resign.

And i just dont think batum is the answer at SF. 5 years from mow... maybe he is. right now.... NO. In todays NBA you need scoring from your SF. Not 5 points a game with decent defense. Thats why webster needs to start. Without Blake... we need a 3 point shooter to bust the zone.
 
yah this summer was a major letdown. even worse if LA doesn't resign.

And i just dont think batum is the answer at SF. 5 years from mow... maybe he is. right now.... NO. In todays NBA you need scoring from your SF. Not 5 points a game with decent defense. Thats why webster needs to start. Without Blake... we need a 3 point shooter to bust the zone.

Same 'ol MIXUM. Just keep repeating the same thing over and over. Did you even read what Mook said?
 
The big problem with Batum in the playoffs wasn't his offense. It was his defense. If he could've contained Artest, it wouldn't have mattered that he was on track to put up 6-7 ppg in 30 minutes. Batum's big problem is that he just doesn't have the strength to handle really brawny SF's like Artest, Carmello and LeBron. However, in a midseason interview he was quoted as saying he'd added about 10 pounds of muscle, and if he can stay on that track by the time the playoffs roll around this coming season he should be much better equipped for that kind of duty.

The tradeoff with him getting stronger, of course, is that he'll risk being slower and heavier. And our weakest defensive position right now is PG. It's really handy to be able to switch him over onto a Tony Parker or Chris Paul for a few minutes, and I'd hate to see us lose that capability if he gets too big. He really needs to walk that Shawn Marion-in-his-prime balance between speed and strength.

Now that Roy's lost a little more weight, though, it's going to be that much more important to add some strength at SF.

It's going to be really interesting to see what kind of a body type the Blazers try to mold Batum into.
 
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What did hcp do this summer? Spent most of his days reminding everyone on here that he's friends with travis outlaw. thats gonna suck for good ole h-c-p when he gets traded lol.

seriously... without a doubt the biggest ego award goes to...

I actually had a great summer. Loss some work, but that allowed me to spend a bunch of time with the family. And this place wasn't really full of stressed out HATERS! I didn't see Trav this summer though.
 
MIXEDUP, you broke your promise; it's not officially Autumn until 2:18 today. I think you really ought consider a one month self imposed ban for such a heinous faux pas.
 
Mook, I usually agree with you butnot on Batum. What happens when teams take away LA and Roy like Houston did? Basically they are saying "someone else beat us" and guess what... there is nobody else. Miller might get us 17 but hes not a legit 3rd option. Thats why we need a Sf who can score and defend. Also dont forget by blake coming off the bench... we need to start webster so someone can hit a three.
 
and for all the haters to chew on....

580 views in less then 12 hours...
 
and for all the haters to chew on....

580 views in less then 12 hours...

MSP also gets a lot of listeners.. but I think a lot of that is because they are in a place where There are a lot of passionate fans about the product that they talk about (with the Blazers, Beavers and Ducks) I wouldnt necessarily say that their high amount of listeners, is because they have a good show.
 
Or maybe instead of having a blazer love fest.... im brutally honest and its the same thoughts many have but try to convince themselves every things peachy.

Im not forcing anyone to read my posts. They can just as quickly read the other billion posts on here.
 
Or maybe instead of having a blazer love fest.... im brutally honest and its the same thoughts many have but try to convince themselves every things peachy.

Im not forcing anyone to read my posts. They can just as quickly read the other billion posts on here.

I dont have a problem with your incessant whining (although you havent done it since you've been back) I just was making a point about your comment about 580 views.
 
Hilarious. I pretty much agree with everything Mixum said in his original post.
 
Mook, I usually agree with you butnot on Batum. What happens when teams take away LA and Roy like Houston did? Basically they are saying "someone else beat us" and guess what... there is nobody else. Miller might get us 17 but hes not a legit 3rd option. Thats why we need a Sf who can score and defend. Also dont forget by blake coming off the bench... we need to start webster so someone can hit a three.

Miller has been a first, second or third option on offense his entire career. But now he isn't? He was the clear second option last year.

Oden, when he really hits his stride, is going to be (at least) a 14-15 ppg player. If he could stay out of foul trouble (a problem that should dissipate, as it does for most centers) he would average 15 ppg per 36 minutes without any improvement in his game at all.

Roy has added about 3 ppg in his second and third seasons. If he does it again, he's at about 26 ppg. You can live without a third main scorer if you have an offensive player like that.

Fernandez was the second best player on a team that just won the European championship. We may yet find a way to mold him into our third scorer.

You really think with all these things going for us we're going to be held back because we lack a third scoring option? I think you're crazy. I think you are living in last year, that the problems in one series against the Houston Rockets will be the same problems we always face. With a team as young and loaded as we have, and with the addition of Miller, it's just not realistic.

If we don't win a championship, it's going to be because an insanely good player just kicks our ass, much like Jordan did to everybody in the 1990's. I'm thinking LeBron, Kobe, Wade, Durant....

What's the best protection against a superstar wing man unloading all kinds of awesome on our team? It sure as fuck ain't Hedo Turkoglu.

Is it Batum? Maybe.
 
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Let me add one more thing for the Batum lovers out there.

If the Blazers are so sold on Mr Batum... Why in the hell did they whore themselves out by trying to get Hedo? I mean if i was Jason Quick and could ask a Kp a question, "If Batum and Webster are the answer, why did you make Jay Jenson hold up signs and make CDs for Hedo?"

I mean obviously the blazers wanted to upgrade SF but couldnt. Dont drink the KP kool aid. he knows we could do much better at SF. If the Blazers were content with batum... we dont go gaga over Hedo. Its really that simple.

Oh and more thing that irked me this summer. Can Brandon Roy shut up? I mean im listening to this guy in a radio interview in early July saying "Im not signed so I cant recruit free agents." Are you fing kidding me? Ok Brandon... theres a good chance we wont sign our best player. You should be ready to play in Europe. That was a joke. I mean i love Roy but dude... seriously? At leats LA hasnt said anything dumb like that.
 
Mook, I usually agree with you butnot on Batum. What happens when teams take away LA and Roy like Houston did? Basically they are saying "someone else beat us" and guess what... there is nobody else. Miller might get us 17 but hes not a legit 3rd option. Thats why we need a Sf who can score and defend. Also dont forget by blake coming off the bench... we need to start webster so someone can hit a three.

That is where you are wrong. Miller IS a legit 3rd option. Dude can't manufacture points, for himself AND for other players.
 
Welcome back Mixum! Love to hate on you...in a loving way! :cheers:

Im gonna try to ignore how you give you messages this year and actually try to analyze what you are really saying...you come across very harsh but I think you deserve more credit for your opinions...

BTW Megatron....Failzers is preety nice but it immediately inspired me to think of " Portland Fail Blazers"....or we could do the double whammy...Portland Fail Failzers"....nice
 
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I try to be fair with my thoughts but problem with lots of posters on here.... you cant have it both ways.

If you wanna develop Batum, you take a risk of him being abused in a playoff series like he was. Where as if you make a trade for a vet SF who fits our window... aka RJEFF, WALLACE, CARTER then you commit to championships now... not later. Right now KP is saying... maybe we will compete in 2011-2012 but with our current roster... we arent winning a title.

Just like at the deadline... if we make a deal... we would be playing in the 2nd round... but we didn't and got bounced. Those same people who were upset we got bounced were the same ones who wanted to keep Bayless, Outlaw and Sergio!

Same thing now with Batum... keep him... but dont cry when we get bounced early. Decide what you want.
 
And where the hell is ABM????????????? I PMed this dude all summer.

Thanks for the love DaRizzle! Good to be back bro!
 
And i just dont think batum is the answer at SF. 5 years from mow... maybe he is. right now.... NO. In todays NBA you need scoring from your SF. Not 5 points a game with decent defense. Thats why webster needs to start. Without Blake... we need a 3 point shooter to bust the zone.

I can understand the point that we need a different SF than Web or Batum at the moment, even though I think the two should be able to do an adequate to good job for this season. But to suggest that Webster is a better option just because his of his Offense is wrong. Last year, Batums rookie year, he averaged 18.4 mpg and scored 5.4ppg on .446% FG. Webster, the season prior in his third season, averaged 10.7ppg in 28.4mpg on .422% FG. If Batum played 28.4ppg like Webster, his would have averaged 8.3ppg, only 2.4 ppg less than Webster. But Batum is as good or better than Webster (per 28.4ppg) at rpg, apg, bpg, spg and TO's. He even only shoots 2% worse from 3pt land. If Nate gives him the same responsibilities in the offense that he had given Webster the previous year, I think Batum would likely have been better on Offense. Nate told Batum to concentrate on D and not O, so that's what he did. But as has been shown in Europe, Batum also has shown a good scoring ability. You add to that, that Batum has a higher PER than Webster and is a much better defender, and I think Webster will not be the starter.

By the wway, I wanted a trade at the deadline for RJ, Carter or a clear SF upgrade.
 
going into last season... some pre season previews called webster an emerging defensive stopper. i think if healthy webster is a perfect fit for the starters
 
cause if he (webby) can play soild defense and hit wide open threes (batum cant) he takes the role of blake with the 3 ball. then miller can just dish and defend.

it also gives the 2nd unit defense with batum and pryz. outlaw, rudy, and blake score.
 

I'll actually agree with Mixum there.. We need one of our PG's or SF's to have a shot.. otherwise teams will pack it in on us all game. And make us beat them from outside. With a SF to spread the floor that will make it a LOT easier for Roy and Miller to attack and do their thing. As well as space the middle for LaMarcus as well.
 
You are a Blazers\Bills fan too? Man, that game against the Pats killed me too. I thought we had it. So far, TO is doing okay too. I mean, he is TO and all. But I think he and Edwards will play well together.

Anyhow, Failzers was funny hahahaha nice man. But you have GOT to know that when we play Toronto, we are going to destroy you :)

And, sad to say, I pretty much agree with Maxi too. Except about SF. Batum is our guy. Watch.
 
yah bills always let those games slip away. should be 2-0. to be honest its hard to get a real read on edwards. Im still looking for him to put 10-12 good consecutive quarters together. he looks good in spots but just when you think hes a player.. he sucks for 8 quarters. btw.....i fucking despise the pats.


Anyway... i like batum but in time hes a starter.. not yet. if healthy webster fits the starting unit. assuming miller starts. if not then you start batum.

u cant have batum and miller on the floor together unless roy la and outlaw are out there. think about miller batum, la and oden out there. 4 guys who cant shoot threes. simply cannot have that. nate can talk all he wants but im telling ya... if he goes with miller at PG... hes gotta go maretll at SF.

Its either Blake/Batum or Miller/Webster. I choose Miller/Webster. Thats why we got Miller... to upgrade. Webster would have started last year. He looked amazing against Sac in pre season. its nothing against Batum but you have to choose. There you have it.
 
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