Things I learned from my senile grandma today at Mothers Day lunch...

[DaRizzle]

1. Marijuana kills people. You can DIE from smoking marijuana. Literally DIE...not from doing something stoned and having an accident by just by smoking it. Watch out, that next joint is gonna kill you. It has no benefits to very sick people. They are all lying just so they can smoke pot for fun.

2. Nobody in baseball takes steroids. A couple of Dodgers came to her church 10 years ago (in steroids heyday)and said that taking steroids is stupid and they would never do that. I told her that players have lied to congress about steroids so why wouldnt they lie to a church group. She said I was lying.

My Grandma is getting more senile by the day...its sad, and sorta funny

 

[MrJayremmie]

Sounds like a wonderful lady. Happy Mother's Day to all you mothers out there.

 

[julius]

if you smoke enough marijuana, you can die (I believe on scale, it's worse for you than tobacco).

But if you do enough of pretty much anything, you can die.

My grandmother, before she died (as opposed to after she died) once told me "never forget a pretty girls face". But, she also once told me "the remote control speaks to me".

 

[Blazerfan22]

if you smoke enough marijuana, you can die (I believe on scale, it's worse for you than tobacco).

But if you do enough of pretty much anything, you can die.

My grandmother, before she died (as opposed to after she died) once told me "never forget a pretty girls face". But, she also once told me "the remote control speaks to me".

Please tell me this is a joke? There has NEVER been one death from weed since the start of time. LOL to it being worse than rat poisoning, plastics and other crap they stick in Cigs. Give me a break and check your facts, not just goverment facts either because to them you can get stoned and kill your mother. Its called they cant control weed so they put it down yet people die everyday from cigs. If you were kidding Im sorry it flew over my head.

 

[Paxil]

Marajuana killed my grandma. Fried her brain until she was living with rats she knew by name. She was a blues singer in a band and always smoked.

 

[Sedatedfork]

Please tell me this is a joke? There has NEVER been one death from weed since the start of time. LOL to it being worse than rat poisoning, plastics and other crap they stick in Cigs. Give me a break and check your facts, not just goverment facts either because to them you can get stoned and kill your mother. Its called they cant control weed so they put it down yet people die everyday from cigs. If you were kidding Im sorry it flew over my head.

You can die from too much of anything, including water.

 

[mook]

If you managed to chain smoke pot like you can cigs, I can't imagine your lungs would look that pretty.

You'd probably die from eating too many Doritos first, though.


Reminds me of a great standup line I heard once, "Hey, how come you never hear about somebody high on marijuana holding up a convenience store? 'Gimme all your money.....and those Twinkies.'"

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080324102129AAlj0GG

"Ignoring for the moment the fact that cannabis increases the risk of psychotic mental illness by 40%, cannabis has the same smoking risks as tobacco, i.e. COPD and emphysema, but it is 6 times more likely to cause lung cancer, so yes there are many deaths occuring as a direct result of smoking it."

 

[DaRizzle]

ROFL, Did you just use an unlinked response on "Yahoo answers" as some sort of reference?!?

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

ROFL, Did you just use an unlinked response on "Yahoo answers" as some sort of reference?!?

Hey, seems reasonable to me.

That said, I don't think there's ever been a documented death as a sole result of weed. I read some more links and so far as I can tell, those stats are not kept.

But it is funny going to the doper sites and then to the others like Yahoo... it's like watching a tennis match.

 

[julius]

Please tell me this is a joke? There has NEVER been one death from weed since the start of time. LOL to it being worse than rat poisoning, plastics and other crap they stick in Cigs. Give me a break and check your facts, not just goverment facts either because to them you can get stoned and kill your mother. Its called they cant control weed so they put it down yet people die everyday from cigs. If you were kidding Im sorry it flew over my head.

Apparently you wanted to make an argument out of something I didn't say. I did say that if you were to smoke the same amount of marijuana as someone normally smokes of tobacco, it is worse for you. But hardly anyone smokes as much pot as they would smoking tobacco because tobacco is far more addictive.

So instead of hearing what you wanted to hear, actually go back and read what I said. I didn't say anything about killing someone while stoned, or the "government facts". In fact, I didn't say anything pro or con about smoking pot.

And I also said that pretty much doing anything too much can kill you. It doesn't mean it will kill you instantly, because you can probably smoke a carton of cigarettes and it won't kill you instantly.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

Now they say that more than 8 hours sleep is bad for you... WHAT IS GOOD FOR YOU, FOR FUCK SAKE?!

 

[julius]

Now they say that more than 8 hours sleep is bad for you... WHAT IS GOOD FOR YOU, FOR FUCK SAKE?!

Frank Stallone.

 

[DaRizzle]

WORD

 

[Blazerfan22]

Apparently you wanted to make an argument out of something I didn't say. I did say that if you were to smoke the same amount of marijuana as someone normally smokes of tobacco, it is worse for you.

But hardly anyone smokes as much pot as they would smoking tobacco because tobacco is far more addictive.

So instead of hearing what you wanted to hear, actually go back and read what I said. I didn't say anything about killing someone while stoned, or the "government facts". In fact, I didn't say anything pro or con about smoking pot.

And I also said that pretty much doing anything too much can kill you. It doesn't mean it will kill you instantly, because you can probably smoke a carton of cigarettes and it won't kill you instantly.

Around 50,000 people die each year from alcohol poisoning. Similarly, more than 400,000 deaths each year are attributed to tobacco smoking.. Norml.org

Annual US Deaths from causes:
Tobacco 435,000
Alcohol* 110,640
Prescriptions† 32,000
Overdoses‡ 16,926
NSAIDS 7,600
Caffeine 2,000
Marijuana 0
* Does not include alcohol-related crashes or murders.
† Adverse reactions to prescription drugs
‡ Overdoses and poisonings from legal and illegal drugs.

wow not even close to the ZERO deaths a year from Marijuana.


There have been no reports of lung cancer related solely to marijuana, and in a large study presented to the American Thoracic Society in 2006, even heavy users of smoked marijuana were found not to have any increased risk of lung cancer. Unlike heavy tobacco smokers, heavy marijuana smokers exhibit no obstruction of the lung's small airway. That indicates that people will not develop emphysema from smoking marijuana.http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#tobacco


Myth: One joint equals one pack of (or 16, or maybe just 4) cigarettes

Some critics exaggerate the dangers of marijuana smoking by fallaciously citing a study by Dr. Tashkin which found that daily pot smokers experienced a "mild but significant" increase in airflow resistance in the large airways greater than that seen in persons smoking 16 cigarettes per day.(7) What they ignore is that the same study examined other, more important aspects of lung health, in which marijuana smokers did much better than tobacco smokers. Dr. Tashkin himself disavows the notion that one joint equals 16 cigarettes. A more widely accepted estimate is that marijuana smokers consume four times as much carcinogenic tar as cigarettes smokers per weight smoked. (8) This does not necessarily mean that one joint equals four cigarettes, since joints usually weigh less. In fact, the average joint has been estimated to contain 0.4 grams of pot, a bit less than one-half the weight of a cigarette, making one joint equal to two cigarettes (actually, joint sizes range from cigar-sized spliffs smoked by Rastas, to very fine sinsemilla joints weighing as little as 0.2 grams). It should be noted that there is no exact equivalency between tobacco and marijuana smoking, because they affect different parts of the respiratory tract differently: whereas tobacco tends to penetrate to the smaller, peripheral passageways of the lungs, pot tends to concentrate on the larger, central passageways.(9) One consequence of this is that pot, unlike tobacco, does not appear to cause emphysema.
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/general/gier1.htm#myth3

Not including Marijuana actually has Medical value.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Annual US Deaths from causes:
Tobacco 435,000
Alcohol* 110,640
Prescriptions† 32,000
Overdoses‡ 16,926
NSAIDS 7,600
Caffeine 2,000
Marijuana 0
* Does not include alcohol-related crashes or murders.
† Adverse reactions to prescription drugs
‡ Overdoses and poisonings from legal and illegal drugs.

The alcohol related deaths on this chart would triple if it included crashes/murders influenced by alcohol.

 

[julius]

I like how, once again, you answered something I didn't say. Bravo.

 

[BlazerWookee]

NORML, lol...

 

[Colonel Ronan]

Do you ever hear of a guy smoking a couple of joints then going home and beating his wife?

 

[Denny Crane]

http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/facts/mj-health-mythology.html#myth5

Myth: No one has ever died from using marijuana

The Kaiser study also found that daily pot users have a 30% higher risk of injuries, presumably from accidents. These figures are significant, though not as high as comparable risks for heavy drinkers or tobacco addicts. That pot can cause accidents is scarcely surprising, since marijuana has been shown to degrade short-term memory, concentration, judgment, and coordination at complex tasks including driving.(1) There have been numerous reports of pot-related accidents --- some of them fatal, belying the attractive myth that no one has ever died from marijuana. One survey of 1023 emergency room trauma patients in Baltimore found that fully 34.7% were under the influence of marijuana, more even than alcohol (33.5%); half of these (16.5%) used both pot and alcohol in combination.(2) This is perhaps the most troublesome research ever reported about marijuana; as we shall see, other accident studies have generally found pot to be less dangerous than alcohol. Nonetheless, it is important to be informed on all sides of the issue. Pot smokers should be aware that accidents are the number one hazard of moderate pot use. In addition, of course, the psychoactive effects of cannabis can have many other adverse effects on performance, school work, and productivity.

 

[barfo]

http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/facts/mj-health-mythology.html#myth5

Myth: No one has ever died from using marijuana

The Kaiser study also found that daily pot users have a 30% higher risk of injuries, presumably from accidents. These figures are significant, though not as high as comparable risks for heavy drinkers or tobacco addicts.

Tobacco addicts are accident prone? I've never heard that before.

That pot can cause accidents is scarcely surprising, since marijuana has been shown to degrade short-term memory, concentration, judgment, and coordination at complex tasks including driving.(1) There have been numerous reports of pot-related accidents --- some of them fatal, belying the attractive myth that no one has ever died from marijuana.

Sure, people who smoke pot crash their cars. People who eat peanut butter sandwiches crash their cars.

One survey of 1023 emergency room trauma patients in Baltimore found that fully 34.7% were under the influence of marijuana, more even than alcohol (33.5%); half of these (16.5%) used both pot and alcohol in combination.(2)

Did they survey the population at large in Baltimore? Maybe 34.7% of Baltimoreans are stoned on any given day.

This is perhaps the most troublesome research ever reported about marijuana; as we shall see, other accident studies have generally found pot to be less dangerous than alcohol. Nonetheless, it is important to be informed on all sides of the issue. Pot smokers should be aware that accidents are the number one hazard of moderate pot use.

and of moderate use of peanut butter sandwiches, for that matter.

In addition, of course, the psychoactive effects of cannabis can have many other adverse effects on performance, school work, and productivity.

Of course.

barfo

 

[BTOWN_HUSTLA]

marijuana really calms me down. I've been smoking a few times this week as one of my buddies got a medical marijuana prescription.

usually I'm hyper agressive, confrontational and what not. I'm more relaxed, take my time. I feel a mental block though....not really "on my shit".

i can't do this too much though, while i am relaxed and at peace, some times i've got to be on my shit, otherwise people will step over me.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Do you ever hear of a guy smoking a couple of joints then going home and beating his wife?

Yes, I have, as a matter of fact.

 

[Denny Crane]

Tobacco addicts are accident prone? I've never heard that before.

Read it again. Comparable risks; those would be lung cancer and liver disease and that sort of thing

Sure, people who smoke pot crash their cars. People who eat peanut butter sandwiches crash their cars.

And crash big oil tankers into the rocks off the Alaskan coast, cause train accidents, etc.

Did they survey the population at large in Baltimore? Maybe 34.7% of Baltimoreans are stoned on any given day.

That was one of my first thoughts, but then I realized their sample is plenty random enough and the results are what they are.

barfo[/quote]

That said, I favor legalization.

 

[DaRizzle]

I also was told by my grandma today that she knows how to use Google search better than me...while I was showing her how to use her email....for the upteenth billionth time

 

[BlazerWookee]

I also was told by my grandma today that she knows how to use Google search better than me...while I was showing her how to use her email....for the upteenth billionth time

Set her up with a user account! We can have a contest to come up with her moniker!

 

[julius]

I also was told by my grandma today that she knows how to use Google search better than me...while I was showing her how to use her email....for the upteenth billionth time

You should ask her if she knows if the clock stops whenever there is a foul called, and the whistle blew.

 

[DaRizzle]

Set her up with a user account! We can have a contest to come up with her moniker!

Im afraid to even show her how to use email cause every piece of SPAM she gets she thinks is real and specifically for her...She is gonna get all her money stolen

 

[DaRizzle]

You should ask her if she knows if the clock stops whenever there is a foul called, and the whistle blew.

...getting old buddy

 

[julius]

...getting old buddy

You think she's too old to remember?