Toronto Raptors Dame trade ideas and rumors

[BankTeller]

I’m really only interested in Barnes from Toronto. If OG could fetch more picks or better young prospects, sure.

I wouldn’t want to come out of the trade with Ayton AND OG, which likely means 2 or even 1 unprotected 1st. I’d like 3 unprotected 1sts, and I’d like to be bad enough to draft Sarr or any of the other talented bigs in next draft.

 

[Mr. Robot]

toronto raptors might have really possibility of getting dame lillard

the prize is obviously scottie barnes (frontcourt) to join our backcourt of the future (scoot & sharpe), that would be amazing, quick rebuild

masai ujiri pulled the trigger on the kawhi leonard trade (even though he knew kawhi wouldnt want to re-sign or at least that there would be very high chance that he would want to join a team in los angeles), why not do it again

thats their best opportunity of going after another chip, otherwise they wont be contenders anytime soon

 

[inconceivable]

toronto raptors might have really possibility of getting dame lillard

the prize is obviously scottie barnes (frontcourt) to join our backcourt of the future (scoot & sharpe), that would be amazing, quick rebuild

masai ujiri pulled the trigger on the kawhi leonard trade (even though he knew kawhi wouldnt want to re-sign or at least that there would be very high chance that he would want to join a team in los angeles), why not do it again

thats their best opportunity of going after another chip, otherwise they wont be contenders anytime soon

i support scottie barnes because he fills a position of need and can grow with scoot and shaedon. future big 3

 

[Pinwheel1]

toronto raptors might have really possibility of getting dame lillard

the prize is obviously scottie barnes (frontcourt) to join our backcourt of the future (scoot & sharpe), that would be amazing, quick rebuild

masai ujiri pulled the trigger on the kawhi leonard trade (even though he knew kawhi wouldnt want to re-sign or at least that there would be very high chance that he would want to join a team in los angeles), why not do it again

thats their best opportunity of going after another chip, otherwise they wont be contenders anytime soon

Agree but I believe the rumors mentioning OG. I think with Dame's contract, Ujiri has to decide between paying OG or Siakam next summer. Siakam is better and Barnes is cheaper and better than OG. So IMO OG is the odd man out.

 

[BankTeller]

i support scottie barnes because he fills a position of need and can grow with scoot and shaedon. future big 3

Nice, we can add a better young Draymond of our backcourt of young DRose and young Jordan.

 

[Graduate32]

Yeah, OG makes me a bit nervous. Nothing wrong with his age, talent, or fit with the youngins, but getting him re-signed (and not drastically overpaid) is certainly a big risk.

If the Blazers went the OG route (and kept him for themselves), I almost think you then need to start testing the market on Grant. First of all, I question whether they are the best fit together, and secondly, I'm not sure you want two overpriced wing players locked into long-term deals.

Flipping OG for further assets or simply getting Barnes instead is FAR preferable if we are dealing with the Raptors.

 

[BankTeller]

Only guy I want from Toronto. Unless OG can land us someone close to Barnes, okay. But if not, it’s Barnes or suck it.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

That and his injuries. He will get a raise for sure, probably Ayton money.
Who would we rather have? Ayton is one year younger, less injuries, and is locked in for 3 seasons.
Both fill different needs. OG is a very good wing defender

OG is worth much more than Ayton. But he would likely cost much more in a trade.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I've been kind of anti OG, but coming around to the idea of it. What else is needed to make this trade fair?

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I’m really only interested in Barnes from Toronto. If OG could fetch more picks or better young prospects, sure.

I wouldn’t want to come out of the trade with Ayton AND OG, which likely means 2 or even 1 unprotected 1st. I’d like 3 unprotected 1sts, and I’d like to be bad enough to draft Sarr or any of the other talented bigs in next draft.

toronto raptors might have really possibility of getting dame lillard

the prize is obviously scottie barnes (frontcourt) to join our backcourt of the future (scoot & sharpe), that would be amazing, quick rebuild

masai ujiri pulled the trigger on the kawhi leonard trade (even though he knew kawhi wouldnt want to re-sign or at least that there would be very high chance that he would want to join a team in los angeles), why not do it again

thats their best opportunity of going after another chip, otherwise they wont be contenders anytime soon

i support scottie barnes because he fills a position of need and can grow with scoot and shaedon. future big 3

Only guy I want from Toronto. Unless OG can land us someone close to Barnes, okay. But if not, it’s Barnes or suck it.

It's been very widely reported such as Zach Lowe, as well as confirmed by our poster here MM that Scottie Barnes is off the table.

 

[Natebishop3]

I've been kind of anti OG, but coming around to the idea of it. What else is needed to make this trade fair?

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I think they should send us a pick or two. I like OG but Dame is soooooooo much better than OG and if they're not giving us Barnes, I want a couple picks.

 

[blazerkor]

I've been kind of anti OG, but coming around to the idea of it. What else is needed to make this trade fair?

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I might try to flip OG to another team just because of his status as a UFA but that could happen during the trade or anytime between then and the deadline if an extension can't be agreed upon. Gradey really makes me like this trade a lot. (I'm taking a day off from the Dick jokes)

 

[BankTeller]

I've been kind of anti OG, but coming around to the idea of it. What else is needed to make this trade fair?

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Could you look for a way to trade OG to another team for more assets? Definitely would need 2 unprotected 1sts from Toronto as well.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Probably my dream trade if we are trying to semi win now as has been rumored. Doubt Dame is worth OG/Boucher/Dick along with two unprotected picks. I would settle for one and wish for a bit more if we don't get any.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I might try to flip OG to another team just because of his status as a UFA but that could happen during the trade or anytime between then and the deadline if an extension can't be agreed upon. Gradey really makes me like this trade a lot. (I'm taking a day off from the Dick jokes)

Yeah if we trade for OG I think we can start the season with it then consider trading one of OG/Grant before the deadline.

 

[Mr. Robot]

It's been very widely reported such as Zach Lowe, as well as confirmed by our poster here MM that Scottie Barnes is off the table.

that would suck, but id still rather trade him to toronto than to miami

 

[Samuel]

Probably my dream trade if we are trying to semi win now as has been rumored. Doubt Dame is worth OG/Boucher/Dick along with two unprotected picks. I would settle for one and wish for a bit more if we don't get any.

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this is my favorite 'non cap space approach' trade construction of the offseason. kudos.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Have legit concerns if we trade for OG now it'll look like the smart move a year from now. But I would be more excited for the lineup to start the season than just about anything else rumored;

Scoot - Ant
Sharpe
OG - Thybulle
Grant
Ayton

 

[SharpesTriumph]

@speeds What do you think most Toronto fans would think of acquiring Dame for OG/Boucher/Dick/2 picks?

 

[BankTeller]

Probably my dream trade if we are trying to semi win now as has been rumored. Doubt Dame is worth OG/Boucher/Dick along with two unprotected picks. I would settle for one and wish for a bit more if we don't get any.

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Problem is we shouldn’t be trying to semi-win. We should be letting the young guys develop, and hopefully nabbing valuable pieces in the draft along the way. That was a problem in the Dame era, he was literally so good he took lottery-looking teams to the playoffs.

Guys like OG come along all the time. Trying to make the playoffs this year when we are in a situation to lose our pick in a draft class with plenty of big men for…the opportunity to pay OG $40m a year…I don’t know…

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Problem is we shouldn’t be trying to semi-win. We should be letting the young guys develop, and hopefully nabbing valuable pieces in the draft along the way. That was a problem in the Dame era, he was literally so good he took lottery-looking teams to the playoffs.

Guys like OG come along all the time. Trying to make the playoffs this year when we are in a situation to lose our pick in a draft class with plenty of big men for…the opportunity to pay OG $40m a year…I don’t know…

You might be right - but a lot of rumors Blazers want to try to win immediately.

 

[Samuel]

in this package I would see ayton and og as players, but possibly also as little rascal first round picks stacked on top of each other in a trench coat.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Guys like OG come along all the time. Trying to make the playoffs this year when we are in a situation to lose our pick in a draft class with plenty of big men for…the opportunity to pay OG $40m a year…I don’t know…

Huh? When? We haven't had a wing like him in... not as far as I can remember. We've complained about being so bad defensively here we are with the opportunity to get a guy who is regarded as one of the best defensive wings in the league and he's not an absolute dud like Thybulle on offense. I don't think he'll command 40m. Closer to 30. Depending on the pieces, I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to compete immediately.

 

[BankTeller]

Probably my dream trade if we are trying to semi win now as has been rumored. Doubt Dame is worth OG/Boucher/Dick along with two unprotected picks. I would settle for one and wish for a bit more if we don't get any.

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I’m going to add to this trade. What if we traded OG to Memphis for Brandon Clarke (could probably sit out all year) and the ‘24 PHX/WAS 1st and their ‘26 unprotected 1st.

That would give us a return of Ayton, Clarke, Thad, Dick, and 4 1sts.

 

[Natebishop3]

I was listening to Marang and it sounds like right now the smoke is surrounding Portland/Toronto/Phoenix and maybe a 4th team like the Pacers.

The fact that Dame's camp leaked a report today saying specifically that Dame would not be happy with Toronto is a huge sign that they're worried that's where he would be going. Which, to me, is SO hypocritical. Dude kept saying he wants to win, and the Raptors have some really nice pieces to put around him. He'd have a legit shot at competing.

 

[BankTeller]

Huh? When? We haven't had a wing like him in... not as far as I can remember. We've complained about being so bad defensively here we are with the opportunity to get a guy who is regarded as one of the best defensive wings in the league and he's not an absolute dud like Thybulle on offense. I don't think he'll command 40m. Closer to 30. Depending on the pieces, I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to compete immediately.

WE haven’t had a wing like that in forever. That doesn’t mean they aren’t there.

You’re telling me there aren’t other 6’7 guys who can defend and average 16-18ppg out there?

 

[Natebishop3]

Marang said he thinks it gets done this weekend.

He said that Phoenix would really love to get a point guard like TJ McConnell.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

WE haven’t had a wing like that in forever. That doesn’t mean they aren’t there.

You’re telling me there aren’t other 6’7 guys who can defend and average 16-18ppg out there?

Where? We've been trying to get one for ages. Those types of players are a premium. They're not as easily acquired as you're suggesting. He would be a great piece to set your defensive identity. Sitting in the lottery for years upon years is far from a guarantee either. Ask Orlando, Washington, etc.

 

[BankTeller]

Where? We've been trying to get one for ages. Those types of players are a premium. They're not as easily acquired as you're suggesting. He would be a great piece to set your defensive identity. Sitting in the lottery for years upon years is far from a guarantee either. Ask Orlando, Washington, etc.

Woah there, buddy. I didn’t say they are easily acquired, but that there are guys of that caliber out there.

My original point being you can’t teach height, alluding to the amount of talent at PF/C in 2024. You’re right, they are a premium. Which is why, I’d rather draft that guy and have him team controlled for 7+ years.

 

[RR7]

WE haven’t had a wing like that in forever. That doesn’t mean they aren’t there.

You’re telling me there aren’t other 6’7 guys who can defend and average 16-18ppg out there?

There were roughly 30 players last year who averaged between 16 and 20 PPG. A bigger range than you provided. 30 players.
Jerami Grant, Mikal Bridges, RJ Barrett, Franz Wagner, Michael Porter Jr., OG, and Mathurin were the only 6'7"ish guys in the range. 2 of those guys play above average defense. Those guys don't grow on trees. They're not everywhere like you seem to think.