Trade DEADline fallout: The Aftermath

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What Grade would you give the Trade Deadline moves?

  • A (I'm Joe Cronin's valet)

    Votes: 2 2.9%

  • B (I love 2nd round Draft picks)

    Votes: 18 25.7%

  • C

    Votes: 24 34.3%

  • D

    Votes: 14 20.0%

  • What the 'F'

    Votes: 12 17.1%
  • Total voters
    70
blazerfan11 said:
We got bigger players than what we had. going by ESPN's roster: 6' 8" Reddish, 6' 7" Knox and 6' 5" Thybulle.
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ESPN (and other sites) listing Reddish at 6'8" and Knox at 6'7" is embarrassing. Per pre-draft measurements, Knox is a full inch taller than Reddish.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
ESPN (and other sites) listing Reddish at 6'8" and Knox at 6'7" is embarrassing. Per pre-draft measurements, Knox is a full inch taller than Reddish.
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am I the only one who remember the announced NBA policy from about 3 years ago stipulating that teams needed to list height without shoes, and only rounding the the nearest inch?

that rule sure died fast
 
Knox probably had no idea he'd be playing backup Center in the NBA. Welcome to Portland Kevin
 
I'm being lazy, but can anyone recap exactly what assets we garnered? I know the Knicks pick is conditional (lottery-protected 1st or four 2nds), but do we know which 2nds we would get if the Knicks missed the playoffs? Which five 2nd round picks we got from the Warriors? How big are the two trade exceptions? Whether or not we're keeping our 1st round pick or it's going to Chicago? Usually, I'm more on top of this stuff, but I really haven't been paying attention this year. What are our limits on trading whichever 1st round picks we have going forward?

Looking at the duplication on our roster and all of the "extra piece" assets we gathered this trade deadline, it seems like we may be in a good place to make a massive consolidation trade, kind of like how we acquired Pip from the Rockets.

Thoughts?
 
Freshtown said:
Now that the dust has settled, the more I think about it the more I think this was a great deadline for us.

1. we aren’t winning the ship this year, so we didn’t make any desperate win now moves that would have involved doing stupid things like giving up sharpe or unprotecting picks for a player of the caliber of OG or something, who wouldn’t have moved the needle for us anyway.

2. we got a first for an expiring player that we couldn’t pay.

3. we got a shitload of 2nd rounders for a 1-dimensional malcontent on a long term deal.

4. we got thuybulle for nothing to evaluate.

All 4 decisions were smart. Good work.
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A ‘great’ deadline is kind of a stretch, but I certainly feel a lot better than I did after the deadline.

1. Fully agree on this assessment. OG doesn’t change anything for us.

2. That player was loved here—I’m happy we traded him into what seems to be an ideal situation for him. I think this will be a win-win for both us and Hart.

3. Schmitz hit on one second rounder already, so I’m excited to see what happens.

4. I wanted us to trade for Thybulle last summer over signing GPII anyway. The possibility of Thybulle and Sharpe together for the long-term has me feeling gitty right now.
 
TBpup said:
Reddish looked good in his debut.
Thybulle looked good in his debut.

Fun, even if it is short lived.
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Thybulle only has to keep showing his defensive versatility to look good to me. Anything more on offense, great. Anything less means we will get him back at a cheaper price.

We’ve been looking for someone like him for awhile.
 
BankTeller said:
A ‘great’ deadline is kind of a stretch, but I certainly feel a lot better than I did after the deadline.

1. Fully agree on this assessment. OG doesn’t change anything for us.
2. That player was loved here—I’m happy we traded him into what seems to be an ideal situation for him. I think this will be a win-win for both us and Hart.
3. Schmitz hit on one second rounder already, so I’m excited to see what happens.
4. I wanted us to trade for Thybulle last summer over signing GPII anyway. The possibility of Thybulle and Sharpe together for the long-term has me feeling gitty right now.
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Absolutely agreed on 2 thru 4.
OG as a difference maker? He’s not a #2 to Dame. BUT is he equal-ish to Grant? … who IMHO is a strong #3.
And as a starting forward duo, I’d be happy with that.
 
HoopsFanAZ said:
Absolutely agreed on 2 thru 4.
OG as a difference maker? He’s not a #2 to Dame. BUT is he equal-ish to Grant? … who IMHO is a strong #3.
And as a starting forward duo, I’d be happy with that.
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Sorry, I should’ve said OG for the package we’d have to give up to get him.
 
I guess I'm a little confused about the Hart trade

I recall reading that the Blazers had generated about a 7M TPE with the trade. I'm having a hard time seeing how that happened unless they had a TPE to absorb Reddish. Did I just see that TPE blurb in a fever dream?
 
wizenheimer said:
I guess I'm a little confused about the Hart trade

I recall reading that the Blazers had generated about a 7M TPE with the trade. I'm having a hard time seeing how that happened unless they had a TPE to absorb Reddish. Did I just see that TPE blurb in a fever dream?
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The difference between hart and Reddish contract is $7 million
 
Nurk + Ant can bring back about 45 mil in a trade.

Porzingis and some cap chicanery to bring back Kuzma in a S&T would be intersting. Bring back Thybulle and Grant in FA.

Dame
Thybulle
Kuzma
Grant
Porzingis

With Sharpe, Nas, and miscellaneous fillers that fit positional needs off the bench.

How does that look for next yr?
 
riverman said:
Lillard said Cam is a legit 6'8
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He said he "thinks" reddish is a legit 6'8". It was speculation, not borne of actual knowledge.

Still, the point remains that listing Knox, who has measured 6'7.75" barefoot, at 6'7" is inaccurate, and that there are no actual measurements of either player that support listing Reddish as taller than Knox.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
He said he "thinks" reddish is a legit 6'8". It was speculation, not borne of actual knowledge.

Still, the point remains that listing Knox, who has measured 6'7.75" barefoot, at 6'7" is inaccurate, and that there are no actual measurements of either player that support listing Reddish as taller than Knox.
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Dame was out there with a measuring tape bro.
 
wizenheimer said:
so was CJ....but those small sample size stats are meaningless
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It's not really small.... just this season would be small, but he was hooping last year too while Dame was out.

He's better as a lead guard / primary scoring option.
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's not really small.... just this season would be small, but he was hooping last year too while Dame was out.

He's better as a lead guard / primary scoring option.
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the EXACT same stuff was said about CJ, over and over, and there CJ is now, actually playing without Dame, in games that mean something instead of meaningless games for a tanking team, and he's not better, he's worse if anything

I like stats and find them useful, most of the time. But I don't buy those stats...or at least I don't gauge their meaning like you are
 
wizenheimer said:
the EXACT same stuff was said about CJ, over and over, and there CJ is now, actually playing without Dame, in games that mean something instead of meaningless games for a tanking team, and he's not better, he's worse if anything

I like stats and find them useful, most of the time. But I don't buy those stats...or at least I don't gauge their meaning like you are
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A couple of key differences...

First, CJ is at best their third scorer on that team when everyone is healthy. So it's not really the same thing. I think he or Ant would need to be a lead guard, not a point guard. There's a very key difference in those roles.

Second, we like to compare CJ and Ant but they're actually very different players. CJ couldn't even hope to have Ant's athleticism, and Ant is actually a much better three point shooter. They're probably comparable in terms of actual point guard instincts though.

I never thought CJ was a good point guard. He lacks the instincts. I doubt Ant is really much better, but I think Ant is a better player and would be better in a lead guard role.
 
Natebishop3 said:
A couple of key differences...

First, CJ is at best their third scorer on that team when everyone is healthy. So it's not really the same thing. I think he or Ant would need to be a lead guard, not a point guard. There's a very key difference in those roles.

Second, we like to compare CJ and Ant but they're actually very different players. CJ couldn't even hope to have Ant's athleticism, and Ant is actually a much better three point shooter. They're probably comparable in terms of actual point guard instincts though.

I never thought CJ was a good point guard. He lacks the instincts. I doubt Ant is really much better, but I think Ant is a better player and would be better in a lead guard role.
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certainly, CJ has peaked...he's not going to get better. Ant is still 23 so he has upside
 
6'8" Reddish probably seems that tall to 6'3" Dame.
 
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