Trade Ideas 2024 Offseason

[andalusian]

Should the Blazers be interested?

Nope. The Blazers already have too many non-shooters.

Unless Scoot becomes a real 3P threat, are you gonna run a Scoot, Sharpe, JG, Someone (let's say Camaro or KM), Ayton - that's not enough shooting for today's NBA.

 

[Boomchakalaka2]

Back after nearly a year. Hi everyone!!

aside from bringing in new ownership, lead by Carmelo Anthony, I’d like to package our 7 & 14 and move up to 2 or 3. Best Forward over 6’-9” in bare feet.

trade Grant and Brogdan for draft capital even if we take back an expiring

 

[Boomchakalaka2]

I’ll trade everyone but ANT, Walker, Grant, Ayton and Williams

for Anthony Edward’s


Second coming of MJ!

 

[BankTeller]

Should the Blazers be interested?

Not interested. Camara is a better defender, Murray and Rupert will be better shooters. Anyone wanting Giddey is hanging onto the hope that he can be what Wagner is. I’d be fine if we had a team of shooters, but we don’t. I’d rather have Ace Bailey or someone else.

 

[Natebishop3]

The wolves is the mold. Two superstars that they got through the draft. Added vets around them.

 

[BankTeller]

I think you under-estimate WCJ. He's a plus defender. Good rebounder, very efficient scorer, both inside and from 3. He brings roughly the same value to the PF/C position as Simons does as a guard. So it would be a roster balancing move for both teams. Especially if the Blazers end up drafting another guard.

And why can't Carter and Ayton play together like Towns and Gobert?

Neither of those guys are as good as KAT offensively or Gobert defensively. Like what?

I’m fine with WCJ as a player, and wouldn’t mind him on this team. He’s not a game-changer though.

I like someone in the draft like Missi more than WCJ due to his size and jumping ability. He’s one of those guys that should translate on the defensive end right away. I actually like a rotation of DA/Missi/Reath better than DA/WCJ/Reath. Are we trying to win something next year? Swap WCJ for Missi, we might be marginally better? We’d be much worse in the long run.

I need Black in return for Ant bare minimum. Black might not be a game-changer either, but he could be down the line.

 

[BankTeller]

The wolves is the mold. Two superstars that they got through the draft. Added vets around them.

It’s still baffling how the narrative changes from “their future is screwed” to “they are the mold” in one season lol.

The mold has almost always been to draft 1-2 superstars who have built a relationship with the city and are loyal to the city, and adding the right pieces around them.

GS and Denver have done this too btw lol. I personally still think the Gobert package was absurd.

 

[Natebishop3]

It’s still baffling how the narrative changes from “their future is screwed” to “they are the mold” in one season lol.

The mold has almost always been to draft 1-2 superstars who have built a relationship with the city and are loyal to the city, and adding the right pieces around them.

GS and Denver have done this too btw lol. I personally still think the Gobert package was absurd.

Edwards keeps getting better and they had some role players pop. The nuggets are harder to replicate. They hit the absolute jackpot with Jokic in the second round.

 

[beast blazer]

Neither of those guys are as good as KAT offensively or Gobert defensively. Like what?

I’m fine with WCJ as a player, and wouldn’t mind him on this team. He’s not a game-changer though.

I like someone in the draft like Missi more than WCJ due to his size and jumping ability. He’s one of those guys that should translate on the defensive end right away. I actually like a rotation of DA/Missi/Reath better than DA/WCJ/Reath. Are we trying to win something next year? Swap WCJ for Missi, we might be marginally better? We’d be much worse in the long run.

I need Black in return for Ant bare minimum. Black might not be a game-changer either, but he could be down the line.

There's a narrative that you can't play two big men. Just like back in the day you couldn't play small, until that became "the thing" now big men are ineffective. Until Jokic took over the league and the Wolves are kicking butt with twin towers.

WCJ and Ayton can both shoot and score inside. Both are really PF/C tweeners. I think they'd be more effective than Aldridge and Lopez.

 

[RR7]

It’s still baffling how the narrative changes .

It's baffling to me at this point why people think there is a mold, there is a narrative, there is a direct path, there is one way, there is a specific way. There are many ways to win. Everyone thought you needed a big 3 at some point, everyone thought you needed twin towers at some point. Everyone thought you needed a true PG. Everyone thought...etc. Teams keep breaking the "mold" of what is expected, and yet fan always seem slow to adapt to it. Find talent. Get good coaching. Find pieces that fit. It's not simple. Obviously. Or every team would be great. Too many get stuck on narratives. The norm wouldn't build a title winner around Dirk. The norm probably wouldn't build a title around Jokic. The key is finding greatness, and fitting roles around it.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Main issue is they have hardly any salary on their roster. Probably have to take Giddey. Would people do Giddey and some picks for Grant and Williams?

This is kind of goofy, but I just don't like the look on Giddey's face when he is on their bench or standing there. He just looks like a guy who doesn't know how to be himself.

 

[Natebishop3]

It's baffling to me at this point why people think there is a mold, there is a narrative, there is a direct path, there is one way, there is a specific way. There are many ways to win. Everyone thought you needed a big 3 at some point, everyone thought you needed twin towers at some point. Everyone thought you needed a true PG. Everyone thought...etc. Teams keep breaking the "mold" of what is expected, and yet fan always seem slow to adapt to it. Find talent. Get good coaching. Find pieces that fit. It's not simple. Obviously. Or every team would be great. Too many get stuck on narratives. The norm wouldn't build a title winner around Dirk. The norm probably wouldn't build a title around Jokic. The key is finding greatness, and fitting roles around it.

Sure, but the mold I'm referring to is how to acquire talent. Portland has limited options to acquire superstar level talent. Either the draft or trade, and trades can be tricky if the superstar in question has no interest in coming to Portland.

So the mold for us, much like the Wolves, is to play the lottery and hope that we can draft a superstar... or two. And then we can go out and find pieces that fit and hire a good coach and all that.

 

[Pinwheel1]

This is kind of goofy, but I just don't like the look on Giddey's face when he is on their bench or standing there. He just looks like a guy who doesn't know how to be himself.

Plus if you like what Giddy offers, then just draft Kyshawn George.....who has a much better outside shot.

 

[Natebishop3]

Plus if you like what Giddy offers, then just draft Kyshawn George.....who has a much better outside shot.

OKC doesn't have much in the way of matching salaries. They have 35 million in cap space. You have to take what you can get.

 

[wizenheimer]

OKC doesn't have much in the way of matching salaries. They have 35 million in cap space. You have to take what you can get.

trade Grant to OKC for a first and a couple of 2nd's. OKC route's Giddey to another team. Blazers get picks and a 29.8M TPE?

 

[Freshtown]

Our salary structure is wild for how bad we are

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Our salary structure is wild for how bad we are

Boston has less salary than us.... wow.

Thats why overpaid contracts are bad. I keep hearing Blazers fans say how it doesn't matter or we "cant lose an asset for nothing" when we gave Grant 160million or Ant 100 million or Thybue 30+ million.... well the result is we have a bunch of guys with little trade value, 3rd worse record in the league and in the luxury tax.

 

[Natebishop3]

Here's my dream offseason for the time being:

Brogdon/#7 for Landale/Tate/#3 (if Risacher or Sarr is there)

Grant/RWIII to OKC for Giddey/#12 pick

Giddey to San Antonio for #8

Simons to Orlando for WCJ/Anthony Black/#18

Either keep 14/18 and take the BPA or try to package and move up. Maybe to Chicago or Memphis.

#3 Risacher
#8 Holland
#11 Knecht

Scoot
Shae
Holland
Risacher
Ayton

Black
Knecht
Camara
Walker
WCJ

 

[CJ_is_Gone]

Boston has less salary than us.... wow.

Thats why overpaid contracts are bad. I keep hearing Blazers fans say how it doesn't matter or we "cant lose an asset for nothing" when we gave Grant 160million or Ant 100 million or Thybue 30+ million.... well the result is we have a bunch of guys with little trade value, 3rd worse record in the league and in the luxury tax.

Agree with the approach.
Grant and Ant are overpaid IMO.

Thybulle is paid fairly for his contribution.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

That's pretty great. Here's my dream offseason:
Scoot learns to get his TOs under control (2.5:1 ast/TO). Scoot and Sharpe shoot 37 3%.
The team gets healthy, and learns to play D.

Grant/RWIII to OKC for Giddey/#12 pick

Giddey to San Antonio for #8

Simons to Orlando for WCJ/Anthony Black/#18

Either keep 14/18 and take the BPA or try to package and move up. Maybe to Chicago or Memphis.

#3 Risacher
#8 Holland
#11 Knecht

Scoot
Shae
Holland
Risacher
Ayton

Black
Knecht
Camara
Walker
WCJ

 

[Samuel]

the result is we have a bunch of guys with little trade value

devil's advocate questions:
- what makes you say they have little trade value? it's likely portland doesn't value additional 2024 picks which was the only thing on offer at the deadline. were you in support of letting tisse and grant walk for nothing?
- are you in support of being a cap space team? remember, the cba rules have changed around this.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Here's my dream offseason for the time being:

Brogdon/#7 for Landale/Tate/#3 (if Risacher or Sarr is there)

Grant/RWIII to OKC for Giddey/#12 pick

Giddey to San Antonio for #8

Simons to Orlando for WCJ/Anthony Black/#18

Either keep 14/18 and take the BPA or try to package and move up. Maybe to Chicago or Memphis.

#3 Risacher
#8 Holland
#11 Knecht

Scoot
Shae
Holland
Risacher
Ayton

Black
Knecht
Camara
Walker
WCJ

It would be impressive if we ended up with 5 FRP in the worst draft in a decade+

Kind of seems like something a team that would be in the luxury tax with a 21 win roster would do.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

That's pretty great. Here's my dream offseason:
Scoot learns to get his TOs under control (2.5:1 ast/TO). Scoot and Sharpe shoot 37 3%.
The team gets healthy, and learns to play D.

My dream off-season is Scoot and Sharpe don't get injured then

we don't do anything stupid like trade away draft picks, hand out more overpaid contracts, or lose Brogdon/Ant in a salary dump.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Here's an idea, Cavs get a wing in place of Allen who doesn't fit with Mobley plus a pick, and can still trade Garland or Mitchell. Thunder get needed size. Blazers get a pick and 21 year old Giddey. Jody saves luxury tax.

 

[Samuel]

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Here's an idea, Cavs get a wing in place of Allen who doesn't fit with Mobley plus a pick, and can still trade Garland or Mitchell. Thunder get needed size. Blazers get a pick and 21 year old Giddey. Jody saves luxury tax.

reroute giddey to the spurs for stuff.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

reroute giddey to the spurs for stuff.

Age of consent is higher in Texas than Oklahoma, so that'll be disappointing for him.

 

[Natebishop3]

reroute giddey to the spurs for stuff.

#8

 

[PtldPlatypus]

#8

Giddey and 14 for 4?

 

[Natebishop3]

Giddey and 14 for 4?

I think that only makes sense if Risacher is available, and I think SA wants him. Unless we just really love Buzelis.

I think the 6-10 range is more valuable to us once Risacher is off the board. We can take guys like Castle/Williams/Knecht/Holland etc.