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Good Whiteside is better than good Adams.
If CP3 stays in OKC I bet we see a much better Adams offensively this year. The playoff series vs OKC kind of cracked me up, Adams would be wrecking the Blazers (Kanter could not guard him), then after like 6 minutes or so, he would like never get the ball in position to again. OKC played some of the stupidest basketball... For all RW’s talent and drive he doesnt play smart basketball, and although I dislike CP3 for being a dirty player and a flopper (he’s one of the worst), CP3 is a very smart basketball player.
 
He doesn't play defense.

He doesn’t play defense?
How does KAT’s defense compare to Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum?
Here are some career number for Townes:
Points in a game: 56
Rebounds in a game: 27
Offensive rebounds in a game: 10
Defensive rebounds in a game: 21
Blocks in a game: 6

What does McCollum do besides score? Why would you build around him as one of your two building blocks?
I’d much rather have Townes than McCollum in that capacity.
That is my point.
If the Blazers could get someone else better than Townes, I’m all for that.
 
He doesn’t play defense?
How does KAT’s defense compare to Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum?
Here are some career number for Townes:
Points in a game: 56
Rebounds in a game: 27
Offensive rebounds in a game: 10
Defensive rebounds in a game: 21
Blocks in a game: 6

What does McCollum do besides score? Why would you build around him as one of your two building blocks?
I’d much rather have Townes than McCollum in that capacity.
That is my point.
If the Blazers could get someone else better than Townes, I’m all for that.

CJ is a better defender than KAT would be at PF.
 
He doesn’t play defense?
How does KAT’s defense compare to Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum?
Here are some career number for Townes:
Points in a game: 56
Rebounds in a game: 27
Offensive rebounds in a game: 10
Defensive rebounds in a game: 21
Blocks in a game: 6

What does McCollum do besides score? Why would you build around him as one of your two building blocks?
I’d much rather have Townes than McCollum in that capacity.
That is my point.
If the Blazers could get someone else better than Townes, I’m all for that.

The Blazers don’t need more offense from the C position. They need defense.
 
He doesn’t play defense?
How does KAT’s defense compare to Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum?
Here are some career number for Townes:
Points in a game: 56
Rebounds in a game: 27
Offensive rebounds in a game: 10
Defensive rebounds in a game: 21
Blocks in a game: 6

What does McCollum do besides score? Why would you build around him as one of your two building blocks?
I’d much rather have Townes than McCollum in that capacity.
That is my point.
If the Blazers could get someone else better than Townes, I’m all for that.

Compared to Townes? HE WINS!

How many playoff games has Townes helped his team win?
 
Compared to Townes? HE WINS!

How many playoff games has Townes helped his team win?

How many playoff games would CJ have played in if his best teammate was Wiggins...and how many would KAT had played in if his teammate was Dame?
 
How many playoff games would CJ have played in if his best teammate was Wiggins...and how many would KAT had played in if his teammate was Dame?

Lillard and KAT. Now that's an epic tandem. It would blow the doors off of Lillard and Aldridge.

Collins and Townes would make a great front court too. Collins wouldn't be a mis-fit if he wan't hitting his 3-pointers since Townes can effectively shoot from downtown.
 
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Lillard and KAT. Now that's an epic tandem. It would blow the doors off of Lillard and Aldridge.

Collins and Townes would make a great front court too. Collins wouldn't be a mis-fit if he wan't hitting his 3-pointers since Townes can effectively shoot from downtown.


Except for the fact that they were 3-7 with Butler and Towns as the main players. Some players don't necessarily translate well to wins and KAT has fit that description since he came into the league, especially since he is being paid over twice as much as Nurkic.
 
How many playoff games would CJ have played in if his best teammate was Wiggins...and how many would KAT had played in if his teammate was Dame?

I'm stating reality where as you are stating a hypotheticals. Hypoyheticals don't win games. KAT also had Jimmy Butler and that failed miserably and was traded out of town.
 
If CP3 stays in OKC I bet we see a much better Adams offensively this year. The playoff series vs OKC kind of cracked me up, Adams would be wrecking the Blazers (Kanter could not guard him), then after like 6 minutes or so, he would like never get the ball in position to again. OKC played some of the stupidest basketball... For all RW’s talent and drive he doesnt play smart basketball, and although I dislike CP3 for being a dirty player and a flopper (he’s one of the worst), CP3 is a very smart basketball player.

Yes, it would be like CP3 and DeAndre lob city all over again. Really odd how OKC stopped using that given it was killing us.
 
He doesn’t play defense?
How does KAT’s defense compare to Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum?
Here are some career number for Townes:
Points in a game: 56
Rebounds in a game: 27
Offensive rebounds in a game: 10
Defensive rebounds in a game: 21
Blocks in a game: 6

What does McCollum do besides score? Why would you build around him as one of your two building blocks?
I’d much rather have Townes than McCollum in that capacity.
That is my point.
If the Blazers could get someone else better than Townes, I’m all for that.

I agree with this for the most part, but I do have concerns about Townes motor and desire to win. I'm not saying the wolves failure is all his fault, but that team has performed very poorly given then apparent talent. Given how low I value CJ I would probably make the trade as is, but if I was GM and my job depended on it, I would probably dig deeper into Townes eye of the tiger.
 
Compared to Townes? HE WINS!

How many playoff games has Townes helped his team win?
Except for the fact that they were 3-7 with Butler and Towns as the main players. Some players don't necessarily translate well to wins and KAT has fit that description since he came into the league, especially since he is being paid over twice as much as Nurkic.

You could say that about Anthony Davis too. Good players on lousy teams.

What team has Wiggins taking nearly as many shots as Towns? Minnesota. It’s a badly run and coached team.
 
You could say that about Anthony Davis too. Good players on lousy teams.

What team has Wiggins taking nearly as many shots as Towns? Minnesota. It’s a badly run and coached team.

Do you know how many years I have heard that the Wolves will finish ahead of us? and that NBA analysts have said as much as well? Towns is a very good player, but has some maturity issues and has had other issues at Minnie as well.We are solid at center for the next few years as this year we have Whiteside and Nurkic at some point and going forward we will have Nurkic 100% for the future. We have more pressing needs and for the amount of money we would be paying Towns, I would rather invest in a player of more need as Nurkic is way more than adequate and as we have seen, fits with Lillard extremely well.

This discussion was also about trading for Towns, so not sure why Davis and Wiggens were brought into it.
 
Do you know how many years I have heard that the Wolves will finish ahead of us? and that NBA analysts have said as much as well? Towns is a very good player, but has some maturity issues and has had other issues at Minnie as well.We are solid at center for the next few years as this year we have Whiteside and Nurkic at some point and going forward we will have Nurkic 100% for the future. We have more pressing needs and for the amount of money we would be paying Towns, I would rather invest in a player of more need as Nurkic is way more than adequate and as we have seen, fits with Lillard extremely well.

This discussion was also about trading for Towns, so not sure why Davis and Wiggens were brought into it.
They do finish in front of the Blazers every year, in the draft order! :)
 
With Minnesota looking for cap space next summer, I wonder if we could pull something lile this:

MIN Gets: Kent Bazemore, 2 Minimuns (Tolliver, Hazonja, Trent, whoever else we sign)
POR Gets: Robert Covington, Gorgui Dieng

We did Minnesota a favor with Layman which could pay off with something like this. Layman could be the cheap Covington replacement allowing Minnesota to look elsewhere with space?

Wed still have all our picks to play with, would improve our big man depth as Dieng couldnplay 4 or 5, and we'd have some salary to play around with in trades in the summer. Could possibly look to make a sign-and-trade. Dieng, Collins, and Trent could bring back 30.5M.
 
Wet Dream Deadline Deal....

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Por 1st to SAS.

This is assuming both Minny and SA are out of the playoff race or headed that way by next years deadline.

Nurk/Collins
LA/Collins
RoCo/Hood
CJ/Baze
Dame/Ant

That’s a serious 9 man rotation.
 
Lets say Atlanta is a borderline playoff team (which I think they can be if Young, Collins, and Huerter all make a jump). What about this series of trades?

MIN Gets: Kent Bazemore, Mario Hezonja, Anthony Tolliver
POR Gets: Robert Covington, Gorgui Dieng

Why MIN Does It: They're reportedly looking for MAX cap space next summer. They save $27M next off-season which is almost worth a MAX slot. We helped them land a cheap possible replacement for Covington in Layman, which could benefit us in terms of good graces with Minny, and also help make Covington more gettable. We take on Dieng's contract to make this happen without picks.
Why POR Does It: We get our 3&D SF.

Then:

ATL Gets: Hassan Whiteside
OKC Gets: Gorgui Dieng, Jabari Parker, Allen Crabbe
POR Gets: Steven Adams, Patrick Patterson, Deonte Burton, Future ATL 2nd, $16.2M TPE (Dieng)

Why ATL Does It: Allen Crabbe has no value for them, so essentially it's swapping Jabari Parker for Hassan Whiteside. Jabari Parker doesn't have a role as a starter going forward, and ATL could use a starting caliber C. If they're making a possible playoff run, they'd definitely value one. Whiteside is a great fit defensively for Atlanta as well, as Atlanta is a defensively challenged team. Plus, they got shooters.
Why OKC Does It: They save $9M per year on an Adams for Dieng swap, which allows them to take on Jabari Parker. Parker would have the chance to immediately start for OKC (assuming they trade Gallo) and would fit their timeline moving forward. They'd likely need to save money in trades elsewhere to make this happen.
Why POR Does It: First off, Whiteside matches all incoming salary by himself which allows Portland to throw Dieng into the deal. Adams would be much more likely7 to accept a backup role behind Nurkic than Whiteside is, and Adams isn't really a downgrade. Plus, he'd be a $25M expiring contract headed into the off-season. With Adams and RoCo being added, we'd be a noticeably better team, and we'd have much more flexibility to make trades happen with the $25M expiring contract of Adams and the $16.2M TPE. Allen Crabbe's $18M contract got traded for the 17th pick and a 2020 first last summer so the TPE might allow us to do something similar for an expiring contract. We could then use the picks we got along with Adams for a Blake Griffin or Otto Porter Jr. type of player. Or we could keep Adams and use the TPE to get a player that could help.

This trade could be done without Dieng which would save OKC a lot of money, and therefore Portland could probably get a 1st round pick from OKC:
ATL Gets: Hassan Whiteside
OKC Gets: Jabari Parker, Allen Crabbe, Future ATL 2nd
POR Gets: Steven Adams, Patrick Patterson, Deonte Burton, 2020 DEN 1st (via OKC)

Portland would then have a $25M expiring, a $17M expiring, and all their picks plus an additional first to make moves that summer, and they'd have a better roster than they do now.

Either way, this would be a creative way to multiply assets.
 
I don't think we should trade Whiteside.
I think we should trade CJ, but I wouldn't be heartbroken if we didn't.

CJ has a high value, and a high salary.
His replacement is on the Blazers right now.
 
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