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Anything involving Love makes no sense. Our weakness may be the four, but it’s also defense.

btw everyone can stop fantasizing about trading CJ. Shit ain’t happening while Olshey is the GM.

I think Olshey hires a defensive coach to help Stotts and runs it back next year. Remember, Ariza, Nurk, and Collins have played a combined 0 minutes together.
You probably said the same about Carmelo before he came here.
 
Dame
CJ
Ariza
Collins
Nurk
Trent
Melo
Hood

That’s eight deep, and it’s not counting guys I expect to take a jump next year in Little and Gabriel, or guys they’ll add in free agency. They really aren’t that far off, they just need to stay relatively healthy, just like any other team. Can’t be missing multiple starters and expect to beat the best teams.

Many weaknesses and question marks. How will Hood return, Ariza-Melo 36 years old, will Nurk stay healthy, will Zach stay on the court and improve a lot to warrant starting PF. Will we find decent backup guard and C with our cap situation?
 
Still far too weak at 3/4. Same story different season.

SF- Ariza, Hood, Little, Trent, possibly Gabriel. Looks fine to me. The four needs help, but they’ll have flexibility in free agency.
 
You probably said the same about Carmelo before he came here.
Love has missed a quarter of a season in each of the last 3 full seasons. Carmelo wasn't signed, but I am guessing part of that was he was waiting for the right spot. Do you really want to pay 30+ million for a player who you can only count on for a maximum of .75 % of a season?
 
SF- Ariza, Hood, Little, Trent, possibly Gabriel. Looks fine to me. The four needs help, but they’ll have flexibility in free agency.
That’s not a good SF lineup lol Trent is the only good player there (hood is a big ? Rn) and he’s a natural 2. Ariza is older and honestly works better as a stretch 4 or backup 3, he isn’t a playoff starter anymore. Which shows where we are at and haven’t changed since Harkless/Aminu.
 
Wes Matthews was as hard of a worker as ever wore the red&black. He has never fully recovered from his achilles injury and his first year back was particularly a struggle. Hood, who wasn't as good as Wes to begin with, is going to bounce back in half the time with no loss in his game? Talk about a leap of faith!
 
Number I don't see a lot of GM would want CJ. He not two way player plus his age and his contract. He might talk that he is team player but you don't see that on the court. He has tunnel vision when he has the ball in hands and very little makes everyone around him better he just not that type player.
 
Love has missed a quarter of a season in each of the last 3 full seasons. Carmelo wasn't signed, but I am guessing part of that was he was waiting for the right spot. Do you really want to pay 30+ million for a player who you can only count on for a maximum of .75 % of a season?
So the 5th pick couldn't spark your interest?
 
Olshey needs to add depth through the draft or by trade or FA. But the depth have to be quality depth that's mean players that can be at least your 8-11 guys that you can count on. To me Simons Gabriel and Little hasn't show enough consistently on the court to be in that 8-11. Yes all 3 could jump up and get there with a good off season but they aren't there yet. Just my opinion.
 
I wonder what's the most the Kings can get for Marvin Bagley. They really should trade him, because the poor sap will never live down not being Doncic in Sacramento. Sam Bowie at least got a fresh start in New Jersey.
 
This wouldn't ever happen, but I think this improves each team.

Jrue to PDX
K-love/Redick to PHI
Horford/Richardson to NO
CJ to CLE

I think Cleveland needs to throw in a pick, and we might need to as well. New Orleans needs something for taking on that Horford contract, but I'm not sure it's #5 (but possibly, with our pick going to CLE).

PHI starting lineup could be: Simmons/Redick/Harris/Love/Embiid. I think that's probably best in the league.

We could end up using Jrue as a swiss-army knife. Defense first-player in the starting lineup, manning the point in the second unit.

Lillard/Trent/Jrue/Collins/Nurkic - lots of defense. No excuses for Stotts at that point.
 
This wouldn't ever happen, but I think this improves each team.

Jrue to PDX
K-love/Redick to PHI
Horford/Richardson to NO
CJ to CLE

I think Cleveland needs to throw in a pick, and we might need to as well. New Orleans needs something for taking on that Horford contract, but I'm not sure it's #5 (but possibly, with our pick going to CLE).

PHI starting lineup could be: Simmons/Redick/Harris/Love/Embiid. I think that's probably best in the league.

We could end up using Jrue as a swiss-army knife. Defense first-player in the starting lineup, manning the point in the second unit.

Lillard/Trent/Jrue/Collins/Nurkic - lots of defense. No excuses for Stotts at that point.

I love Cj and even I would trade him for Jrue Holiday. Jrue would be perfect next to Dame
 
So the 5th pick couldn't spark your interest?
Not with a 3 year 90 mil contract attached to it. We would have no ability to sign anyone else and have to hope that who ever we picked was able to be a superstar since we could not get any role players. THey would have to give up several picks to take on that contract.

Here are the last 8 #5 picks in the draft. No guarantee here.
2019 Darius Garland, Vanderbilt – Cleveland Cavaliers
2018 Trae Young, Oklahoma – Atlanta Hawks
2017 De’Aaron Fox, Kentucky – Sacramento Kings
2016 Kris Dunn, Providence – Minnesota Timberwolves
2015 Mario Hezonja, FC Barcelona Basquet – Orlando Magic
2014 Dante Exum, Australia – Utah Jazz
2013 Alex Len, Maryland – Phoenix Suns
2012 Thomas Robinson, Kansas – Sacramento Kings
 
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Same as the last 6 years, we need new forwards and a different coach. If we can turn CJ into a stretch 4 and our pick and scraps into a wing defender with some spot up ability I think we are a lot better next season.
 
I no longer see Collins as a starting 4 on a championship level team. I’d like him backing up 4 and 5 off the bench though, unless he’s needed in a trade to obtain starter level caliber players.

Its time to call around and see what Collins/CJ/Simons/16th pick is worth.
 
He does have championship experience and would fit in well with next to Nurk.

To be fair, it was the asset of the No. 5 pick that made me overlook the deficiencies I see in Love ... that fifth pick could be used to acquire something else that might compensate in some way for what Love doesn't do well. I'm still not super-convinced Love is a great fit in Portland ... there'd have to be multiple changes to the roster for me to think that would work. And, at his age with his injury history, depending on him is too risky, IMO.
 
This wouldn't ever happen, but I think this improves each team.

Jrue to PDX
K-love/Redick to PHI
Horford/Richardson to NO
CJ to CLE

I think Cleveland needs to throw in a pick, and we might need to as well. New Orleans needs something for taking on that Horford contract, but I'm not sure it's #5 (but possibly, with our pick going to CLE).

PHI starting lineup could be: Simmons/Redick/Harris/Love/Embiid. I think that's probably best in the league.

We could end up using Jrue as a swiss-army knife. Defense first-player in the starting lineup, manning the point in the second unit.

Lillard/Trent/Jrue/Collins/Nurkic - lots of defense. No excuses for Stotts at that point.
If KLove doesn't make sense for Portland what makes you think he makes sense for Philly?
 
Collins will miss a ton of games. Can't count on him.
 
Dame
CJ
Ariza
Collins
Nurk
Trent
Melo
Hood

That’s eight deep, and it’s not counting guys I expect to take a jump next year in Little and Gabriel, or guys they’ll add in free agency. They really aren’t that far off, they just need to stay relatively healthy, just like any other team. Can’t be missing multiple starters and expect to beat the best teams.
Glad you are not the GM
 
And the 5th pick.
So the 5th pick you are so excited about lets se Mario? Alex Len? Thomas Robinson? Dante Exum? Which of these 5th picks from the last few years is worth a bloated 30 mil ayear contract and giving up CJ?
 
So the 5th pick you are so excited about lets se Mario? Alex Len? Thomas Robinson? Dante Exum? Which of these 5th picks from the last few years is worth a bloated 30 mil ayear contract and giving up CJ?
Maybe we could convince someone to swap us the 15 so we can pick someone on the level of Kawhi Leonard or Giannis Antetokoumpo, since the success of prior year picks at a certain number apparently rigorously defines the value of a future pick.
 
Maybe we could convince someone to swap us the 15 so we can pick someone on the level of Kawhi Leonard or Giannis Antetokoumpo, since the success of prior year picks at a certain number apparently rigorously defines the value of a future pick.
I am saying taking one of the worst contracts in the league because you get the 5th pick is crazy. Plus you give up your second leading scorer for that terrible contract. People keep saying, but we get the 5th pick, like that guarantees up some superstar. But I guess you are okay with giving up our 2nd leading scorer taking on one of the worst contracts in the NBA in hopes that the 5th pick makes us contenders, when there is just as good a chance as that pick being another Mario and now the blazers are hamstrung with Love and his contract and worse off.
 
I am saying taking one of the worst contracts in the league because you get the 5th pick is crazy. Plus you give up your second leading scorer for that terrible contract. People keep saying, but we get the 5th pick, like that guarantees up some superstar. But I guess you are okay with giving up our 2nd leading scorer taking on one of the worst contracts in the NBA in hopes that the 5th pick makes us contenders, when there is just as good a chance as that pick being another Mario and now the blazers are hamstrung with Love and his contract and worse off.
CJ is owed more over the next 3 years than Love is, is owed an additional $35M the year after that, and has worse efficiency and impact numbers than Love. CJ's only advantage over Love is durability--and yes, that is a significant issue. Hence the need for significant draft compensation to make the swap. But the claim that Love is one of the worst contracts in the league seems to ignore the possibility that CJ also may fit that classification.
 
CJ is owed more over the next 3 years than Love is, is owed an additional $35M the year after that, and has worse efficiency and impact numbers than Love. CJ's only advantage over Love is durability--and yes, that is a significant issue. Hence the need for significant draft compensation to make the swap. But the claim that Love is one of the worst contracts in the league seems to ignore the possibility that CJ also may fit that classification.
CJ is still a productive player in the League. Love is for half a season. Plus Answer me this. How many first round picks would we have to give up to get a team to take CJ"s contract? I am betting Zero. You willing to take Love's contract without draft consideration?
 
CJ is still a productive player in the League. Love is for half a season. Plus Answer me this. How many first round picks would we have to give up to get a team to take CJ"s contract? I am betting Zero. You willing to take Love's contract without draft consideration?
We may have to pair a draft pick with CJ bc his production is not worth the contract he was given


Or we can get a lesser player like Love and hope to get a star in the draft...


Or keep CJ and Dame and watch the same shit happen
 
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