Trades that "move the needle"

[Strenuus]

This Melo Maddness is easily squashed.

Ask yourself, what are the Blazers doing well? Why are they getting open shots? Hint: Ball movement

Conclusion: Bad fit. Melo doesn't pass the ball.

Ask yourself what the Blazers aren't doing well? Why are teams scoring? Hint: lacking defense

Conclusion: Bad fit. Melo doesn't play defense.

Why would Melo every come to Portland when he forced a trade out of Denver?

Conclusion: Bad fit. He would never want to be in Portland.

Why are people suggesting a trade for Melo?

Conclusion: People don't think past their fantasy basketball rosters, and my God have mercy on your soul.

/thread

 

[Strenuus]

While that may be true, he would also be on a far more offensively talented team with the Blazers than he is with the Knicks. Taking the ball out of a beasts like Dame or LMA's hands is not something Melo can do. As long as he hopes to win, at least.

Does it look like Melo cares about winning?

Simple answer: No.

Long answer: Hell no.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

My title for this thread is:
Trades that "move the needle"

And I went on to suggest one trade scenario - Melo to Portland.

I'm intrigued that there are 7 pages, pro and con of this one trade idea.
What I'm reading is that the view of many is that our 10-2 start has made believers of the current roster. This is great - but we all know that we are missing one or two of the following to be serious contenders:

A) one superstar

B) starting center or significant back-up

C) a veteran defensive specialist

Missing anything ???

So what ideas (outside of Melo) are interesting ideas?

 

[Strenuus]

My title for this thread is:
Trades that "move the needle"

And I went on to suggest one trade scenario - Melo to Portland.

I'm intrigued that there are 7 pages, pro and con of this one trade idea.
What I'm reading is that the view of many is that our 10-2 start has made believers of the current roster. This is great - but we all know that we are missing one or two of the following to be serious contenders:

A) one superstar

B) starting center or significant back-up

C) a veteran defensive specialist

Missing anything ???

So what ideas (outside of Melo) are interesting ideas?

none - including melo.

 

[magnifier661]

Boom I feel ya, but those trades either come in the summer or after a dismal stretch. You gotta ask yourself a bigger question.

Should we wait for the end of the season, so we can evaluate the actual player that best suits this team?

Who knows brother, maybe this current team may surprise you, like the team in 1999 surprised everyone.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

And what has Denver done since trading Melo? NOTHING. With Melo they were a contender

Wasn't this about the same time as the Chauncey Billup exodus?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

He may not rank in top 10 every year in PER but his career PER is 49th highest of all time. I'll take that

49th highest PER, with the 5th highest career usage rate in NBA history. The epitome of the inefficient ball hog.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

49th highest PER, with the 5th highest career usage rate in NBA history. The epitome of the inefficient ball hog.

Ok, that's enough showing off. Your thick logic has no place in a thread made for fantasy trade harlots. Seriously, not coo! MELO MOVES NEEDLES! (History be damned!)

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Ok, that's enough showing off. Your thick logic has no place in a thread made for fantasy trade harlots. Seriously, not coo! MELO MOVES NEEDLES! (History be damned!)

You're right. Sorry, my bad.

Ermagerd!!, we should totes trade for Rudy Gay cuz T-Dot sux and he's supes awesome when he's taking 37 shots a game.

MOVE THE NEEDLE!!!1!1!!1!!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

49th highest PER, with the 5th highest career usage rate in NBA history. The epitome of the inefficient ball hog.

Be nice to the rube.

Oh, I mean "blazer fan"

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Be nice to the rube.

Oh, I mean "blazer fan"

I'm a Vikings fan. I despise Christian Ponder. Nobody who chooses to pay homage to him in their screen name deserves any kindness, sympathy, or mercy.

 

[Strenuus]

You're right. Sorry, my bad.

Ermagerd!!, we should totes trade for Rudy Gay cuz T-Dot sux and he's supes awesome when he's taking 37 shots a game.

MOVE THE NEEDLE!!!1!1!!1!!

Omg! Rudy Gay and Melo on the same team! We'll get like, so many more possessions!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

My title for this thread is:
Trades that "move the needle"

So what ideas (outside of Melo) are interesting ideas?

Horford? Atlanta is on the verge of a rebuild. As built, they are a treadmill team.

Brook? The Nets don't look like a playoff team. PP and KG are both in rapid decline. King is the worst GM since John Nash. They also dealt their first-round picks until 2018 iirc.

Sanders? A game changer defensively. A hotheaded Theo Ratliff.

Attainability is one thing, but you're also going to have to give up a lot for a needle mover.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Horford? Atlanta is on the verge of a rebuild. As built, they are a treadmill team.

Brook? The Nets don't look like a playoff team. PP and KG are both in rapid decline. King is the worst GM since John Nash. They also dealt their first-round picks until 2018 iirc.

Sanders? A game changer defensively. A hotheaded Theo Ratliff.

Attainability is one thing, but you're also going to have to give up a lot for a needle mover.

Sanders seem mentally weak. I know that's harsh, but it is what it is - a liability. Joel and Robin make up for their lack of All-Star cred in their smart play, and vertical defense.

Harford is too similar to LA. He's just not big enough for my liking to compliment what LA does, or what the Blazers need - A big that can hold that paint and take up space on his own. Portland would have to give up too much to get him.

Brook would be nice, and no doubt fit, but again, a worst case scenario for Portland. Although, Robin's defense is better in my opinion, and his contract allowed Portland to sign Wright. Brook is on a max, or near max deal. Portland would be cutting off their arms for a better leg.

 

[magnifier661]

Horford? Atlanta is on the verge of a rebuild. As built, they are a treadmill team.

Brook? The Nets don't look like a playoff team. PP and KG are both in rapid decline. King is the worst GM since John Nash. They also dealt their first-round picks until 2018 iirc.

Sanders? A game changer defensively. A hotheaded Theo Ratliff.

Attainability is one thing, but you're also going to have to give up a lot for a needle mover.

Out of your list, Horford is the true missing piece (as long as we have Lillard, Aldridge, Matthews or Batum).

Sanders will be a problem here. He has mad anger issues. We know how well sheed was with those very same issues.

I'm not sold on Brook. He's a worse defender than Robin.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Out of your list, Horford is the true missing piece (as long as we have Lillard, Aldridge, Matthews or Batum).

Sanders will be a problem here. He has mad anger issues. We know how well sheed was with those very same issues.

I'm not sold on Brook. He's a worse defender than Robin.

I've suggested Horford multiple times in the past. My thought was Batum/Leonard/CJ for Horford/Korver. That would have a chance to be a pretty damn good team.

 

[Strenuus]

I've suggested Horford multiple times in the past. My thought was Batum/Leonard/CJ for Horford/Korver. That would have a chance to be a pretty damn good team.

That doesn't seem like enough. Maybe it's seeing Leonard's name in there and not counting him as any trade value.

 

[magnifier661]

I've suggested Horford multiple times in the past. My thought was Batum/Leonard/CJ for Horford/Korver. That would have a chance to be a pretty damn good team.

I did as well. I would do your proposed trade in a heart beat!

 

[magnifier661]

That doesn't seem like enough. Maybe it's seeing Leonard's name in there and not counting him as any trade value.

Honestly, for a rebuilding team, it's a good player to work on. Batum could actually be a good piece for them. He's young, can run an offense and plays a position they are weak at.

Add Wiggins to that club and they'd be dangerous!

 

[PtldPlatypus]

That doesn't seem like enough. Maybe it's seeing Leonard's name in there and not counting him as any trade value.

Perhaps. I initially suggested that in the offseason, when we thought we might be seeing some improvement from Leonard, and before CJ was injured. Still, they're two young lottery picks with "potential", and Batum is a young but established player who is probably top 10 in the league in his position. That's exactly the kind of haul you would want for a player like Horford.

 

[Strenuus]

Honestly, for a rebuilding team, it's a good player to work on. Batum could actually be a good piece for them. He's young, can run an offense and plays a position they are weak at.

Add Wiggins to that club and they'd be dangerous!

The thing that scares me most about losing Batum is the way he's not only been distributing the ball, but spreading the floor. Sure, we have Wes. But do you know how hard it is to defend 3 people that can hit from deep? If they come out to the perimeter, you got the lane open. It's really nice. It's the reason why I think this team is doing so well (helps they hit the shots, obviously.)

 

[magnifier661]

The thing that scares me most about losing Batum is the way he's not only been distributing the ball, but spreading the floor. Sure, we have Wes. But do you know how hard it is to defend 3 people that can hit from deep? If they come out to the perimeter, you got the lane open. It's really nice. It's the reason why I think this team is doing so well (helps they hit the shots, obviously.)

I'm sorry but Horford is worth way more than what Batum gives us. It's not even close. We would have another post player, rim protector and has great vision to pass out of doubles.

Yes losing Batum would hurt, but we would immediately see the benefit with Horford.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

The thing that scares me most about losing Batum is the way he's not only been distributing the ball, but spreading the floor. Sure, we have Wes. But do you know how hard it is to defend 3 people that can hit from deep? If they come out to the perimeter, you got the lane open. It's really nice. It's the reason why I think this team is doing so well (helps they hit the shots, obviously.)

That's why I suggested bringing Korver back as well. He's a better shooter than Batum is.

 

[Strenuus]

I'm sorry but Horford is worth way more than what Batum gives us. It's not even close. We would have another post player, rim protector and has great vision to pass out of doubles.

Yes losing Batum would hurt, but we would immediately see the benefit with Horford.

Fair enough. I can see where you and Platy are coming from. That wouldn't be so bad.

 

[Strenuus]

That's why I suggested bringing Korver back as well. He's a better shooter than Batum is.

It makes sense. Also, I completely glossed over Korver. That's not that bad, actually.

If we were in a pinch and struggling, this wouldn't be a bad move.

 

[magnifier661]

Fair enough. I can see where you and Platy are coming from. That wouldn't be so bad.

It's really moot though. Honestly, I think it would require both Matthews and Batum. I don't know if I could do that.

 

[Strenuus]

It's really moot though. Honestly, I think it would require both Matthews and Batum. I don't know if I could do that.

Agreed. That's too big of a hit. But, we don't have any 1st's for awhile do we? Something like 2016. Or was that 2nd rounders?

 

[magnifier661]

Agreed. That's too big of a hit. But, we don't have any 1st's for awhile do we? Something like 2016. Or was that 2nd rounders?

It's the second rounders, but we can't trade our first cause one is owed to Charlotte

 

[Strenuus]

It's the second rounders, but we can't trade our first cause one is owed to Charlotte

Shit. Then yeah. They'd probably want two starters for horford if they aren't getting solid picks. I could go with one, but not both.

Wonder if Barton has trade value?! Throw him in there.

 

[magnifier661]

Shit. Then yeah. They'd probably want two starters for horford if they aren't getting solid picks. I could go with one, but not both.

Wonder if Barton has trade value?! Throw him in there.

I trade claver, batum, Leonard, Barton and CJ for him! Lol. I think there are a few lotto picks in there