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^^^ DO you agree with Trump's comments saying that these "SOBs should be fired" for taking a knee during the anthem?
 
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yankeesince59 said:
^^^ DO you agree with Trump's comments saying that these "SOBs should be fired" for taking a knee during the anthem?
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Based on your previous comments, I think we all agree that the NFL should enforce their contracts with players. Bench , fine and fire as needed.

I'm not watching a single game until that league gets some balls.
 
totus44 said:
Based on your previous comments, I think we all agree that the NFL should enforce their contracts with players. Bench , fine and fire as needed.

...not gonna happen...and if you'll look, you'll see that it's not only players, coaches and owners are also joining in.

I'm not watching a single game until that league gets some balls.

...well, you obviously have the same right to express yourself by boycotting, but you'll be in a very small minority...besides, I'm sure there will be many hypocrites who will swear they didn't watch games, when they really did.
...don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I agree with the way players are protesting, or for that matter, exactly WHAT they are protesting...I'm just being realistic.
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Ratings are way down. Think that means a decent amount of people have been turned off by these arrogant prima donnas and are no longer watching. I am one of them.
 
mrmel29 said:
Ratings are way down. Think that means a decent amount of people have been turned off by these arrogant prima donnas and are no longer watching. I am one of them.
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...not sure where you get your info from but no, they are not "way down"...and though they have dipped a bit over the last few years, you might want to research as to the real reasons why. And it's not just football, it's all sports.

...and fwiw, after Monday night's game the NFL's aggregate rating were actually UP 3%.



https://www.si.com/tech-media/2017/...e-donald-trump-comments-monday-night-football
 
No...this is just trumps way of sticking it to the NFL..it took 30 plus years for him tonfind a way to fuck with the NFL after fucking up the USFL....
 
mrmel29 said:
Ratings are way down. Think that means a decent amount of people have been turned off by these arrogant prima donnas and are no longer watching. I am one of them.
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Would live to know how they compute ratings for those with dvrs or watching the game online..what happens to those who watch the red zone channel when the local game blows...does the ratings reflect that?
 
yankeesince59 said:
...not sure where you get your info from but no, they are not "way down"...and though they have dipped a bit over the last few years, you might want to research as to the real reasons why. And it's not just football, it's all sports.

...and fwiw, after Monday night's game the NFL's aggregate rating were actually UP 3%.



https://www.si.com/tech-media/2017/...e-donald-trump-comments-monday-night-football
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Ratings, stocks down
What's not disputed is that NFL ratings were down about 10% for the first three weeks of the season, which started Sept. 7, with about 15.8 million viewers (watching live or on DVR same-day), compared to 17.6 million during the first three weeks of 2016, according to Nielsen data. That follows a trend last year of overall viewership during the 2016 regular season, when ratings fell 8%.

So ratings down 8% from 2015 to 2016 and down 10% from 2016 thru the first 3 weeks of 2017. I'd say thats significant
 
mrmel29 said:
Ratings, stocks down
What's not disputed is that NFL ratings were down about 10% for the first three weeks of the season, which started Sept. 7, with about 15.8 million viewers (watching live or on DVR same-day), compared to 17.6 million during the first three weeks of 2016, according to Nielsen data. That follows a trend last year of overall viewership during the 2016 regular season, when ratings fell 8%.

So ratings down 8% from 2015 to 2016 and down 10% from 2016 thru the first 3 weeks of 2017. I'd say thats significant
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...again, no it's not...did you even read the article?...NFL ratings are actually "UP 3% when compared to last year after week 3"... and sorry but your numbers are incomplete because FYI, "Nielson data"does NOT include the MILLIONS of viewers who watch games on their MOBILE DEVICES. Neither does Nielson account for the quality of good game matchups from last year to this year.
...and one more time, collectively, ALL sports have seen a drop in TV viewership in recent years, that's not exactly news...but plain and simple, the fact that athletes are expressing their concern during the national anthem is not affecting TV viewership...is that not the premise of your argument?
 
yankeesince59 said:
...again, no it's not...did you even read the article?...NFL ratings are actually "UP 3% when compared to last year after week 3"... and sorry but your numbers are incomplete because FYI, "Nielson data"does NOT include the MILLIONS of viewers who watch games on their MOBILE DEVICES. Neither does Nielson account for the quality of good game matchups from last year to this year.
...and one more time, collectively, ALL sports have seen a drop in TV viewership in recent years, that's not exactly news...but plain and simple, the fact that athletes are expressing their concern during the national anthem is not affecting TV viewership...is that not the premise of your argument?
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I did read the article. You cherrypicked a line about week 3 being up over week 3 only from last year which does not overcome the decline from weeks 1 and 2. Do you really think nfl ratings are up year to date over last year? If you do then you are amongst a small minority that do.

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Tuesday, September 26, 2017, 9:15 PM
NEW YORK — Through three weeks, viewership for national telecasts of NFL games is down 11 percent this season compared to 2016, the Nielsen company said on Tuesday.
 
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i'd say 10% equals "way down" a that's statistically significant. agreeing with trump on nfl doesn't mean you agree with him anywhere else and you are welcome to cite the "even a blind squirrel finds a nut" defense.

but if you can't, than your trump hate has become pathological and its time to seek professional help (liberalism is a mental disorder afterall, lol!).
 
totus44 said:
i'd say 10% equals "way down" a that's statistically significant. agreeing with trump on nfl doesn't mean you agree with him anywhere else and you are welcome to cite the "even a blind squirrel finds a nut" defense.

but if you can't, than your trump hate has become pathological and its time to seek professional help (liberalism is a mental disorder afterall, lol!).
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You guys need to stop with this Idiot. :lol:
 
I had sent the mods a post a couple of weeks ago asking to close this useless thread that has nothing to do with yankee baseball after well over a mind boggling 2,000 posts that basically just bash our president whether you agree with him or not. For some reason the mods have chosen to keep this thread open. This thread has past the embarrassing point. How about we get back to baseball!!
 
mrmel29 said:
I had sent the mods a post a couple of weeks ago asking to close this useless thread that has nothing to do with yankee baseball after well over a mind boggling 2,000 posts that basically just bash our president whether you agree with him or not. For some reason the mods have chosen to keep this thread open. This thread has past the embarrassing point. How about we get back to baseball!!
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Thanks Mel.
 
mrmel29 said:
I had sent the mods a post a couple of weeks ago asking to close this useless thread that has nothing to do with yankee baseball after well over a mind boggling 2,000 posts that basically just bash our president whether you agree with him or not. For some reason the mods have chosen to keep this thread open. This thread has past the embarrassing point. How about we get back to baseball!!
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If the mod wants it left open, it is alright with us. Why? A lot of sports forums have posts every now and then that is not sports related. The post OT first before they post the title and thread. That way people that do not want an off topic thread can stay out of it

We have a Off topicl forum as well where everyone can post if they feel the need to talk about something else other than sports. You can post threads and reply to posts there.

http://www.sportstwo.com/forums/off-topic.6/
 
Another thing that can be done, is move the thread to Off Topic with a redirect here. The mod should be able to do this. If most of you all want it moved have the mod pm me.

Once moved people that want to post in it can still do so. It will redirect them to the thread.
 
mrmel29 said:
I did read the article. You cherrypicked a line about week 3 being up over week 3 only from last year which does not overcome the decline from weeks 1 and 2. Do you really think nfl ratings are up year to date over last year? If you do then you are amongst a small minority that do.

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Tuesday, September 26, 2017, 9:15 PM
NEW YORK — Through three weeks, viewership for national telecasts of NFL games is down 11 percent this season compared to 2016, the Nielsen company said on Tuesday.
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...I didn't "cherry pick" anything...I actually quoted from the article...read again...I didn't say anything about the first three weeks...I said week 3 as compared to last year's week 3...see the difference now?
...now..try as best you can, in the proper context, to extrapolate Trump's words into an NFL downturn in ratings...I'll wait.
 
mrmel29 said:
I had sent the mods a post a couple of weeks ago asking to close this useless thread that has nothing to do with yankee baseball after well over a mind boggling 2,000 posts that basically just bash our president whether you agree with him or not. For some reason the mods have chosen to keep this thread open. This thread has past the embarrassing point. How about we get back to baseball!!
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...uhh, in case you didn't notice, there's this little yellow thingy at the very top of the thread that clearly says "OT"...FYI, that stands for "off topic"...if you don't want to participate in the thread discussion, no one is forcing you.

...on the other hand, if you want to create your own "OT" thread blindly fellating Trump, be my guest.


...no one is whining to the moderators except you.
 
truebluefan said:
If the mod wants it left open, it is alright with us. Why? A lot of sports forums have posts every now and then that is not sports related. The post OT first before they post the title and thread. That way people that do not want an off topic thread can stay out of it
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...thank you !...I doubt it will satisfy some, but thanx just the same.
 
totus44 said:
i'd say 10% equals "way down" a that's statistically significant. agreeing with trump on nfl doesn't mean you agree with him anywhere else and you are welcome to cite the "even a blind squirrel finds a nut" defense.

but if you can't, than your trump hate has become pathological and its time to seek professional help (liberalism is a mental disorder afterall, lol!).
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..."pathological"?...please, don't use words you neither fully understand nor can quantify...and has been pointed out to you multiple times, just because I have been consistent, unlike you, in my feelings and opinions concerning Trump, does not by default make me a "liberal"... but feel free to continue to assume things about me, when in fact you really know nothing about me.

...still waiting on something tangible that supports the narrative that Trump's words have adversely affected TV ratings...I'll wait on that too.
 
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speaking on OT matters, on the Old BSPN boards, most of us looked forward to the "Good Morning" OT post, as much as the game itself, well almost....

Imo, this IS a classic Post, one if you've read and have been a part of since day one of its inception, you'd see it was created long prior to the Elections, pre-Primary, et al.


Tho' we know their is "other" sportstwo OT Forums, we like to keep this one in our own house, with our own members/posters; non- Yanx Posts are necessary imo, ..

Whether you like or dislike Trump as a person, or POTUS is ridiculously impertinent. I for one will always respect the position, but don't have to respect the man, and don't one fkng bit.....but I'm not going to praise an self saturated fellating idiot neither. What's at stake here are a shit load of Congressional and WH follies, with laws that aren't being completed as promised, nothing's really getting done in DC,.... we all want a functional exectutive, and we'd all rather die on our feet, than live kneeling...

You'll find we've slammed just about any politician. We find a commonality more in our disagreements, than our agreements, and that much is healthy imo. No consenus here ever, that too is healthy. What's not healthy is seeing this for what it is, yet stating otherwise. If you don't like what's on the menu, there's always another Diner....
 
Mattingly23NY said:
speaking on OT matters, on the Old BSPN boards, most of us looked forward to the "Good Morning" OT post, as much as the game itself, well almost....

Imo, this IS a classic Post, one if you've read and have been a part of since day one of its inception, you'd see it was created long prior to the Elections, pre-Primary, et al.


Tho' we know their is "other" sportstwo OT Forums, we like to keep this one in our own house, with our own members/posters; non- Yanx Posts are necessary imo, ..

Whether you like or dislike Trump as a person, or POTUS is ridiculously impertinent. I for one will always respect the position, but don't have to respect the man, and don't one fkng bit.....but I'm not going to praise an self saturated fellating idiot neither. What's at stake here are a shit load of Congressional and WH follies, with laws that aren't being completed as promised, nothing's really getting done in DC,.... we all want a functional exectutive, and we'd all rather die on our feet, than live kneeling...

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...glad someone else gets it.
 
mrmel29 said:
Ratings, stocks down
What's not disputed is that NFL ratings were down about 10% for the first three weeks of the season, which started Sept. 7, with about 15.8 million viewers (watching live or on DVR same-day), compared to 17.6 million during the first three weeks of 2016, according to Nielsen data. That follows a trend last year of overall viewership during the 2016 regular season, when ratings fell 8%.

So ratings down 8% from 2015 to 2016 and down 10% from 2016 thru the first 3 weeks of 2017. I'd say thats significant
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...lol...and you accuse me of "cherry picking"?

...if you're going to copy and paste only a portion of an article to bolster your narrative, at least include the link that talks about the bigger picture.

Here, I'll post it for you; https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...fl-player-protests-hurting-ratings/703619001/



...Still waiting on the evidence that Trumps's words are the reason TV ratings are down...again, isn't that the basis for your argument?...I also asked Tote to provide it, but so far nothing but crickets.
 
This president is a dickhead. I just keep yelling STFU. Real annoying!
 
yankeesince59 said:
...uhh, in case you didn't notice, there's this little yellow thingy at the very top of the thread that clearly says "OT"...FYI, that stands for "off topic"...if you don't want to participate in the thread discussion, no one is forcing you.

...on the other hand, if you want to create your own "OT" thread blindly fellating Trump, be my guest.


...no one is whining to the moderators except you.
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I'm not fellating trump. Just tired of seeing a whining liberal Wienie snowflake like you constantly distracting from a great yankee season. I guess the thread will stay as true blue wants it to crack the 3,000 mark for some reason. This should be somewhere else. I will not post on this anymore. Just on threads pertaining to the yanks. Hopefully you'll follow but I suspect you'll keep boring us to death with your agenda
 
...lmao...and there you have it folks, personal insults...the very last bastion of someone without a compelling argument.

...and I'm not "distracting" from anything...no one is forcing you to click on this thread except yourself.

...the title is CLEARLY headlined with "OFF TOPIC"....makes no sense to me if you already know in advance what this "O/T" thread is about, and yet you condemn it, but you continue to post in it...again, no one is complaining but you.


...and in case you have not noticed, I'm by no means the only person in this thread who thinks Trump is a madman.
 
Latest with Puerto Rico: Trump is actually accurate with his view that the island is in efficient and deep down in debt. A few years ago, the population vote refused to submit as a State of this country although much of NY is populated with PR citizens. Trump wants to stress the point that they expect everything but their community doesn't offer resiliency and a"I can do" attitude. There are thousands of container vessels sitting on their docks but they lack people to off load and distribute goods.
 
(shaking head in disbelief)....


not sure how I could of been any clearer, definitive, on the importance of this OP....
and/or the necessity for it.... "sooner or later it all gets real" -
 
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