OT Trump Chooses His Golf Court For Next G7 Summit

[PtldPlatypus]

It has never gone to trial to be determined as no president has been so obvious about it as trump has been. Jimmy Carter sold his peanut farm when he became president and trump has continued to benefit at his business from being president. trump just continually lowers the bar of what is acceptable and it needs to stop.

I don't disagree that the hosting of a state event at a resort he owns is untoward at best. I just wonder at the reasoning of many claiming it's expressly illegal.

 

[calvin natt]

I see.

You and Maris certainly havent convinced us that it can happen. Maybe try?

 

[MarAzul]

Maybe try?

Try what?

 

[MarAzul]

There seems to be a lot of people ok with white domestic terrorism, racism, bigotry from all angles, hate for world-views we don't share

uh? What is this?

 

[MarAzul]

oh my, how we forget your birther movement against Obama.

Born in Hawaii.

 

[MarAzul]

I don't disagree that the hosting of a state event at a resort he owns is untoward at best. I just wonder at the reasoning of many claiming it's expressly illegal.

I would say this dictionary definition does not apply;
"Compensation received by virtue of holding an office or having employment (usually in the form of wages or fees)"

I expect it will now get tested in court, as it should.
This is nothing but a Democrat quibble point. It should be eliminated.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

uh? What is this?

When a mass shooting happens by a white dude that's played in the media entirely different than when it's a brown or black person. When there's blatant racism whether it's against blacks, whites, anything in between there are always those that try to excuse the bad behavior away. When there is hate towards certain people there's always a crowd that comes and follows and agree's with it or decides to not condemn it. That's what it is, it's the way our world works and it's unfortunate, and what I find more unfortunate then anything is that our politicians have become complicit in all of it.

 

[calvin natt]

Try what?

Try to be logical and reasonable.

 

[Stevenson]

Marzy, what you say could make plausible sense - in 1787. Unfortunately for you, and everything you think about the Constitution, we have had 200 years of constitutional law, cases, holdings, rulings, and precedents handed down that examines exactly what the clause meant and means.

Your kooky takes never takes into account that we have a third branch of government, the judiciary, and it is co-equal. Pretending they haven't ruled on this doesn't mean that they haven't ruled on this.

You truly do not love or appreciate the Constitution or our form of government. That's all I can really conclude.

 

[MarAzul]

There seems to be a lot of people ok with white domestic terrorism, racism, bigotry from all angles, hate for world-views we don't share.

When a mass shooting happens by a white dude that's played in the media entirely different than when it's a brown or black person. When there's blatant racism whether it's against blacks, whites, anything in between there are always those that try to excuse the bad behavior away. When there is hate towards certain people there's always a crowd that comes and follows and agree's with it or decides to not condemn it. That's what it is, it's the way our world works and it's unfortunate, and what I find more unfortunate then anything is that our politicians have become complicit in all of it.

umm, I still can't relate to what your trying to say. The second quote in response to the first just doesn't make sense to me.

"When a mass shooting happens by a white dude that's played in the media entirely different than when it's a brown or black person."
There does seem to be a difference at what happens in the above situations, and we never seen to get at the cause.
Let's look at the rash of multiple shootings by young white dudes, most without a father in their lives. WTF is going wrong with them, and I specifically mean the white kids? Black kid don't seem to do this shit and we damn well ought insist these clues be
tracked down and evaluated. I think you alluded to calling it terrorism! Hell, I don't think it is, but what ever, it ain't good and needs fixing. Has it to do with color? Well I do notice the difference and I want to know why?

 

[MarAzul]

Pretending they haven't ruled on this doesn't mean that they haven't ruled on this.

Great! Can't you send me to a ruling to read where a President was found to violate the clause?
I would appreciate it.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

umm, I still can't relate to what your trying to say. The second quote in response to the first just doesn't make sense to me.

"When a mass shooting happens by a white dude that's played in the media entirely different than when it's a brown or black person."
There does seem to be a difference at what happens in the above situations, and we never seen to get at the cause.
Let's look at the rash of multiple shootings by young white dudes, most without a father in their lives. WTF is going wrong with them, and I specifically mean the white kids? Black kid don't seem to do this shit and we dam well ought insist these clues be
tracked down and evaluated. I think you alluded to calling it terrorism! Hell, I don't think it is, but what ever, it ain't good and needs fixing. Has it to do with color? Well I do notice the difference and I want to know why?

What were calling it Terroriam, Random Acts of Violence, screwed up kids whatever, but its a problem and its a problem to me that if a Brown person does it, its called terrorism, if its a Black person its oh they must not have a dad or some other racist nonsense, when its a white kid its not called the same.

 

[CupWizier]

I don't disagree that the hosting of a state event at a resort he owns is untoward at best. I just wonder at the reasoning of many claiming it's expressly illegal.

Will he make money from hosting the event? yes

Will foreign dignitaries be staying at the resort and providing some of the profit? yes

He was suppose to divest himself from his business. Has he? No.

trump doesn't follow the rules that other presidents have lived by in the past as he doesn't live by rules, he makes his own.

 

[MarAzul]

What were calling it Terroriam, Random Acts of Violence, screwed up kids

>>> Yeah, I think I just avoided the terrorism for the young screwed up white kids that do shit that we do not see Black kids doing. And specifically young white males without a father. Even though young black males also without fathers do not (so far) do these multiple shootings. There has to be an anwer as to why and labeling it White terrorism is not a useful answer. Perhaps I would help some feel better, but no real help.

Brown person does it, its called terrorism

>>> I can related to an occurrence of Brown kids, doing multiple shootings in schools, mauls, or crowds.

if its a Black person its oh they must not have a dad or some other racist nonsense, when its a white kid its not called the same

>>>> I think I just reversed this on you and it seems to me to be a big clue.

 

[CupWizier]

Born in Hawaii.

and? are you trying to say Hawaii wasn't part of the United States?

 

[MarAzul]

What were calling it Terroriam, Random Acts of Violence, screwed up kids whatever, but its a problem and its a problem to me that if a Brown person does it, its called terrorism, if its a Black person its oh they must not have a dad or some other racist nonsense, when its a white kid its not called the same.

Do you mean the brown dudes that cry, Allah Akbar before they start mowing down folks? Or cutting them up? The jihad gang? Yeah terrorrism, what do you call it?

 

[MarAzul]

and? are you trying to say Hawaii wasn't part of the United States?

Of course it is.
Geez! How much help do you need?

 

[CupWizier]

Of course it is.
Geez! How much help do you need?

then why did you claim Obama wasn't a citizen of the USA? Man do you even remember half the bullshit you post?

 

[riverman]

Do you mean the brown dudes that cry, Allah Akbar before they start mowing down folks? Or cutting them up? The jihad gang? Yeah terrorrism, what do you call it?

Both Al Farouq Aminu and Jusuf Nurkic are Muslim….many Asians are Muslim...Allah Akbar means "God is Great"......brown dudes? Check out our own lilly white mass shooters and get back to me...Islam is the most racially diverse religious practice on the planet. Muhammed Ali talked about his first trip to Mecca and was amazed how diverse the pilgrims were...red headed blue eyed Muslims, Black Muslims, Filipinos, on and on...and yes...Arabs...let's put these things in proper perspective....atrocities are not exclusive ...they happen in every war and revolution throughout history...Spanish Inquisition was a torture chamber ..the real "witch hunt"

 

[ABM]

Both Al Farouq Aminu and Jusuf Nurkic are Muslim….many Asians are Muslim...Allah Akbar means "God is Great"......brown dudes? Check out our own lilly white mass shooters and get back to me...

Extremism exists at every corner.

 

[riverman]

Extremism exists at every corner.

Soldiers in wartime can lose it...flip out...go insane in the heat of war....seen it, been there...as it always has been throughout our lives...first decapitations I remember were Japanese soldiers killing British prisoners in South East Asia...now with the internet and cell phones we just have an instant window into the horrors of war

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Will he make money from hosting the event? yes

Will foreign dignitaries be staying at the resort and providing some of the profit? yes

He was suppose to divest himself from his business. Has he? No.

trump doesn't follow the rules that other presidents have lived by in the past as he doesn't live by rules, he makes his own.

No argument on either of the first two; the question is the third point. Carter's example notwithstanding, is there actually any rule, law, or ruling that indicates that he was obligated to divest himself of business interests? I've yet to see one.

 

[MarAzul]

.many Asians are Muslim

You got that right. Most of them around the South China Sea are indeed Muslims. Dealt with them several times. That is where I learned the word Kaffir.
But you carry on riverman, my man! I do not wish to argue with you about it. You won't read the Quran or the Hadiths to find out about it, so argument is pointless.

God is great! then cut a kaffir's throat! Defend that shit to someone that cares to hear you try.

 

[MarAzul]

Everytime I hear of an American service man getting killed by one of the guys that they are supposed to be working with, I want to just cry! Holy hell man, we can't continue to do this shit, it is insane. You can not be putting any trust into people
that are taught, you are a Kaffir. They have 18 way in any direction to justify making bad stuff happen to the Kaffir, all justified in their Quran. Then some more again in their Hadiths. Wake up people, Trump and Tulsi are correct.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Everytime I hear of an American service man getting killed by one of the guys that they are supposed to be working with, I want just cry! Holy hell man, we can't continue to do this shit, it is insane. You can not be putting any trust into people
that are taught, you are a Kaffir. They have 18 way in any direction to justify making bad stuff happen to the Kaffir, all justified in their Quran. Then some more again in their Hadiths. Wake up people, Trump and Tulsi are correct.

Then why continue to sell them arms?

 

[MarAzul]

About 35 years ago, one of my guys worked with the Bank of Turkey, in Ankara to get IMS Fast/Path up and running. I went over there as they were to bring online the Southern region, opposite Syria and Irag. This involve bringing ATMs and Businesses switching to point of sale hardware online with the bank.

The Project manager for the Bank was a bit more nervous about me going down there than I would have liked. He assured me that we would be alright, he pointed out the security detail he had on the job. But he admonished me to not get off by myself.
Then he refreshed my memory of what a Kaffir is. He told me to my face, you are a Kaffir to most of the people in the region. I did already know this, but I didn't say anything except all right.

When we got down to the town closest to the boarder, that was suppose to come online the next day, all was calm and peaceful. The ATM were to be loaded overnight and the next day was let her rip. The next morning however, they ( I don't know who)
brought three guys in to the city square.
Shit! They just cut their throats and hung them upside down by their feet. They had robbed some ATMs of the cash. They were Kurds I was told. Actually they had another name I can't remember but it was for Kurds.

Looked like Turks to me! I mentions this to the Project Manager, how do you know they are Kurds?
They robbed the ATM!

Damn fine place.

Went back to Turkey one more time after that, to sail the Aegean Sea out of Bodrum. That's when I learned not to eat the watermelons! Oh lord! Do not eat the watermelons.

 

[MarAzul]

Then why continue to sell them arms?

Not sure I can give a direct answer.
But I suppose it is possible to rank nations as not friendly. On the negative scale of -1 to -10. Where as you may even become allies of -3 against a -8, and support the -3 and even aid them to be of use.
Even though, knowing full well there is no chance they will ever become a friend, even a lowly +1.

Without a common shared moral system, trusted friend is not possible.

 

[barfo]

Without a common shared moral system, trusted friend is not possible.

I guess that's why the current administration can be trusted friends with Putin.

barfo

 

[Lanny]

No argument on either of the first two; the question is the third point. Carter's example notwithstanding, is there actually any rule, law, or ruling that indicates that he was obligated to divest himself of business interests? I've yet to see one.

There's no law that says he must divest himself of his business interests until it conflicts with the emoluments clause of the U.S. Constitution which, when you consider his business interests, would happen pretty damn soon as a U.S. President.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

There's no law that says he must divest himself of his business interests until it conflicts with the emoluments clause of the U.S. Constitution which, when you consider his business interests, would happen pretty damn soon as a U.S. President.

Do they though? Again, from my reading of the legal definition of emoluments, it doesn't relate to legitimate commerce. An emolument is specifically remuneration for an action carried out via the powers of his office.