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DennisRodman said:
Is that the forum you run?
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no. I run a small board basically for me and a few friends. something to do during the work day, good for planning nights on the town, talking about shit, etc.

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ucatchtrout said:
oh for fucks sake this is getting ridiculous. why don't we each create our own set of rules and our own forum? too many forums, too many rules, too many anal retentive people who think they should control everyone. this is getting out of hand. one free speech zone is enough. never have i seen so many control freaks with their panties in a bind all in one place.


having said that, denny you are a reasonable fellow and somebody has to manage this mess. whatever you decide is will go along with. :)
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No one is trying to censor you, they just have the right to criticize your taste if they want to. If you don't like it, continue defending your position because that is what S2 is about.
 
Xericx said:
look at this forum, which i also post on. there is a "dumb threads" sub-forum which is used at the mods discretion.

http://www.styleforum.net/

actual forum: http://www.styleforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=18

that might be an option. mods discretion. I don't mind it as long as its here, the thing I hate most are locked threads since you can't really respond to anything...sure, if there's a bunch of porn and crap like that, lock away...but dumb threads can be moved at a mod's discretion IMO...hurts no one really.
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There are three suggestions that seem to have merit to me. Speak up if you disagree.

1) We create a second subforum in the blazers forum (or a subforum of OT) for these kinds of threads, exclude from recent topics page, and allow the blazers mods to move threads at their discretion. We would make similar subforums in other places on the site as appropriate.
2) We create a single forum or subforum for the whole site where people can go crazy about any topic. Exclude this one forum from the recent topics list.
3) We use a single thread on the site to merge all these topics together (per Minstrel's suggestion).

I'm willling to implement any of these three, or any other that we can all be happy about.

My opinion (which carries no more weight than anyone elses) is:
1) This is acceptable, but more to manage on our end. We may be creating hundreds of these subforums if we ultimately have hundreds of communities like the Blazers is now (and the nets, and the lakers, etc.). The downside is that you're still going to see these kinds of threads in the "Last Post" part of the top of the forum and in the forums listing pages.
2) This is the easiest, since we set it up one time and let the mods do their thing. The downside is that a couple of people here (Xericx and ucatchtrout, maybe others that I don't know about) would have to go to a different forum to post these kinds of threads and posts to their hearts' content. Still has the "Last Post" issue, but would only be for the one forum on the forums listing pages.
3) One for the whole site, or one per team forum/ot forum? Needs clarification.

We're being put in a tough spot because we have posters like e_blazer who has interests and Xericx & ucatchtrout who have conflicting interests. We're trying to resolve this democratically and get everyone's buy in to the solution. Not some dictate from the staff.
 
or this....

i think people would prefer subforums here, and we should split the OT in two....

OT: Serious
OT: Not so much

1.the serious subforum would exist with the understanding that there was a higher level of moderation in order to promote legit discussion - this subforum would be eligible for recent topics
2.the not so much subforum would essentially be a free-for-all and would have low low moderation and NOT be on the recent topics list for the Blazer forum.

i doubt there would be any issues over that set up. it is a little customised for our fanbase, but seriously we get our post on something chronic and we need a lil flexibility to exist :P
 
BlayZa said:
or this....

i think people would prefer subforums here, and we should split the OT in two....

OT: Serious
OT: Not so much

1.the serious subforum would exist with the understanding that there was a higher level of moderation in order to promote legit discussion - this subforum would be eligible for recent topics
2.the not so much subforum would essentially be a free-for-all and would have low low moderation and NOT be on the recent topics list for the Blazer forum.

i doubt there would be any issues over that set up. it is a little customised for our fanbase, but seriously we get our post on something chronic and we need a lil flexibility to exist :P
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Sounds like a vote for option #1.

Everyone else feel free to speak up!
 
well if it's going that way, i'd honestly prefer the higher moderation in the serious forum - at least people would know they need to come correct in there.
 
Denny Crane said:
There are three suggestions that seem to have merit to me. Speak up if you disagree.
3) One for the whole site, or one per team forum/ot forum? Needs clarification.

We're being put in a tough spot because we have posters like e_blazer who has interests and Xericx & ucatchtrout who have conflicting interests. We're trying to resolve this democratically and get everyone's buy in to the solution. Not some dictate from the staff.
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Most forums don't have the traffic to need one.
 
Denny Crane said:
conflicting interests. .
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that is what can be interesting.

if people let it.

having everything your own way all the time is boring.

making it a point to never read or view anything i disagree with never pushes my limits, never allows me to grow, and inhibits my ability to understand the ideas of others.

conflict and difference of opinion can be quite useful and long as people don't take things too seriously.

people who disagree with you can force you to reexamine your own life, your own ideas, your own morals. when you engage with them you are forced to THINK. thats not a bad thing. thats a good thing.
 
BlayZa said:
or this....

i think people would prefer subforums here, and we should split the OT in two....

OT: Serious
OT: Not so much

1.the serious subforum would exist with the understanding that there was a higher level of moderation in order to promote legit discussion - this subforum would be eligible for recent topics
2.the not so much subforum would essentially be a free-for-all and would have low low moderation and NOT be on the recent topics list for the Blazer forum.

i doubt there would be any issues over that set up. it is a little customised for our fanbase, but seriously we get our post on something chronic and we need a lil flexibility to exist :P
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that's the best solution. pushing blazer-forum originated threads into some cyberspace with other posters doesn't work IMO.

can you do a sub-forum of the OT forum where stupid threads go to die? shit, it may even become more popular than the parent!
 
I've got nothing against porn sites, but I sure hate it when I visit some site and browse away and they have javascript that forces me to go to some porn site.

You have a valid point of view, but it's fair to say so does e_blazer (and others).

ucatchtrout said:
that is what can be interesting.

if people let it.

having everything your own way all the time is boring.

making it a point to never read or view anything i disagree with never pushes my limits, never allows me to grow, and inhibits my ability to understand the ideas of others.

conflict and difference of opinion can be quite useful and long as people don't take things too seriously.

people who disagree with you can force you to reexamine your own life, your own ideas, your own morals. when you engage with them you are forced to THINK. thats not a bad thing. thats a good thing.
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Xericx said:
that's the best solution. pushing blazer-forum originated threads into some cyberspace with other posters doesn't work IMO.

can you do a sub-forum of the OT forum where stupid threads go to die? shit, it may even become more popular than the parent!
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Yes, this is one of my preferred solutions. I don't want to force it on you or anyone else who posts here, tho.

Sounds like 2 votes for #1.
 
you can even move the "stupid and random thoughts" to this sub-sub forum.

I did that once...called it "the watering hole" or something to be similar to a bar.
 
Denny Crane said:
Sounds like a vote for option #1.

Everyone else feel free to speak up!
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I say leave it the way things are. A little time goes by and people will make the adjustments that are appropriate and get used to each other.

Its easy to over manage a thing like this.

There has been a lot of conversation here. And that is the goal. Or should be. Nobody is trolling, or namecalling, or baiting or any of that bullshit.
 
Xericx said:
you can even move the "stupid and random thoughts" to this sub-sub forum.

I did that once...called it "the watering hole" or something to be similar to a bar.
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Thanks.

I've always thought a "kitchen sink" (RTT) type thread for chit chat is a good idea.

I like the idea of a cage match kind of forum, too, where there are absolutely no rules - throw insults and that kind of thing at one another, let off steam.
 
ucatchtrout said:
I say leave it the way things are. A little time goes by and people will make the adjustments that are appropriate and get used to each other.

Its easy to over manage a thing like this.

There has been a lot of conversation here. And that is the goal. Or should be. Nobody is trolling, or namecalling, or baiting or any of that bullshit.
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A vote for #4, which was never posed - keep things the way they are. Valid option as well.
 
This is only going to pertain to the Blazers forum, right?
 
Denny Crane said:
Thanks.

I've always thought a "kitchen sink" (RTT) type thread for chit chat is a good idea.

I like the idea of a cage match kind of forum, too, where there are absolutely no rules - throw insults and that kind of thing at one another, let off steam.
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InsideHoops.com tried that I think with a Smack forum., it didn't end well. I'm generally in the camp of no personally directed insults at posters as the cardinal rule. It gets bad, then stalkerish, etc.
 
GMJ said:
This is only going to pertain to the Blazers forum, right?
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This discussion is for the Blazers forum and solution. We do have the same issue outside the Blazers forum that needs to be addressed as well. Consistency on the solution seems like a good idea to me, but we'll address this second issue after resolving this one.
 
Xericx said:
no. I run a small board basically for me and a few friends. something to do during the work day, good for planning nights on the town, talking about shit, etc.

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I'm embarrassed to say that I've probably used over 75% of those. What's worse is that I didn't need a cheatsheet--those lame refutations occurred to me on my own. :doh:
 
I'd like to take a second and note the difference in the attitude of the non-Blazer mods here. I'm not bootlicking because I'm afraid of being banned from another forum, but it's nice to be in a place where you can have an honest conversation and discourse.

Thanks to the folks at S2 for setting this place up.
 
I have a great idea, why don't we just talk about basketball.
 
My two cents
the sorts of threads started by ucatchtrout and xericx are really annoying, pointless, and most of all, there's way too many of them. Terrence and Phillip are funny.... for 20 minutes. Pace yourselves, guys, all you're doing is pushing down your own threads. I've already started ignoring the OT forum because of the flood of stupid threads. One or two a week is fine, but ten a day is just annoying and sad.

I think the best solution would be for the posters to just tone it down a bit..... but if they don't care about my opinion, I like the OT subforum idea, with a little suggestion (if possible) - threads can receive "negative (and positive) reputation." If a thread gets enough negative votes, it gets bumped down into the subforum.
 
then don't read them.
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They're on the first page and clutter up the forum, hiding other interesting threads. I want to look at the OT forum without reading utter crap that belongs in a comment to a video on youtube.
and post your own threads.
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I start my own threads when I have something worth posting, what's the point of posting something just for the hell of it?

And no response to the rest of that paragraph of my post?
 
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