Politics Ukraine / Russia

[Fairly-Hard]

I was really enjoying this OT thread. @UKRAINEFAN was really trying to get us info. I felt like it was eye opening and refreshing instead of being spoon fed what CNN was showing us.
Unfortunately it has gone astray.
I'm done with the thread.
I'll check back in a week and see if it's gotten any better.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Sergei Lavrov says Russia 'DIDN'T attack Ukraine', dismisses 'pathetic outcry' over maternity hospital bombing and admits the building WAS deliberately targeted - after peace talks collapse in Turkey

• Peace talks between Sergei Lavrov and Dmytro Kuleba in Ankara collapsed today without any progress
• Lavrov then made extraordinary claims that Russia did not attack Ukraine, hours after shelling a hospital
• Kuleba vowed Ukraine 'will not surrender' to Russia's demands after the 'difficult' negotiations
• The meeting was the highest-level diplomatic encounter since the Kremlin launched the invasion

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...raine-dismisses-pathetic-outcry-hospital.html

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Russia slammed for 'fake news' after claiming pregnant Mariupol survivor is a beauty blogger who faked her injuries as Kremlin desperately tries to deny attacking mothers and babies

• Russia has been slammed for fake news after claiming Mariupol hospital bombing victim faked her wounds
• Nadine Dorries, culture secretary, reported the country's London embassy for peddling the claim on Twitter
• Comes after foreign minister Sergey Lavrov claimed there were no patients in the hospital when it was hit
• Ukraine says three people, including a six-year-old girl, died in the attack which it described as a 'war crime'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-claiming-Mariupol-survivor-crisis-actor.html

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

I hate the way Putin causes all of the problems and then acts like he's a victim and everybody is out to get him. That gets really old. We shouldn't support that kind of behavior at all.*

*see every thread ever

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Russia has fired 'about EIGHT' generals for failing to 'complete the task' of taking Ukraine in days, Kyiv official claims - as Putin rages over FSB failures

• Eight Russian generals sacked over Ukraine invasion failings, Kyiv said today
• Head of security council said Moscow has changed tactics after early defeats
• Putin also said to be furious at secret services for misleading him over resistance
• Moscow expected Ukrainian military to fold, but has met determined fighters

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-generals-rages-FSB-battlefield-failures.html

 

[Natebishop3]

Russia has fired 'about EIGHT' generals for failing to 'complete the task' of taking Ukraine in days, Kyiv official claims - as Putin rages over FSB failures

• Eight Russian generals sacked over Ukraine invasion failings, Kyiv said today
• Head of security council said Moscow has changed tactics after early defeats
• Putin also said to be furious at secret services for misleading him over resistance
• Moscow expected Ukrainian military to fold, but has met determined fighters

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-generals-rages-FSB-battlefield-failures.html

How would they take Kyiv? They're not invading, remember?

 

[Phatguysrule]

I was really enjoying this OT thread. @UKRAINEFAN was really trying to get us info. I felt like it was eye opening and refreshing instead of being spoon fed what CNN was showing us.
Unfortunately it has gone astray.
I'm done with the thread.
I'll check back in a week and see if it's gotten any better.

Looks to me like it's been cleaned up. Good job mods!

 

[Phatguysrule]

Russia has fired 'about EIGHT' generals for failing to 'complete the task' of taking Ukraine in days, Kyiv official claims - as Putin rages over FSB failures

• Eight Russian generals sacked over Ukraine invasion failings, Kyiv said today
• Head of security council said Moscow has changed tactics after early defeats
• Putin also said to be furious at secret services for misleading him over resistance
• Moscow expected Ukrainian military to fold, but has met determined fighters

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-generals-rages-FSB-battlefield-failures.html

Is it more likely the secret service did this to undermine Putin or because they were afraid to tell him otherwise?

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Fairly-Hard]

How would they take Kyiv? They're not invading, remember?

They aren't helping enough Ukrainians on their peacekeeping mission?
I'm spit balling here?

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Does this dude ever get tired of having his ass handed to him?

 

[Phatguysrule]

Does this dude ever get tired of having his ass handed to him?

He gets paid handsomely to try and give nazi sympathizers meme material and talking points.

 

[Natebishop3]

Does this dude ever get tired of having his ass handed to him?

Not sure why BGD keeps linking to the same press conference though.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Not sure why BGD keeps linking to the same press conference though.

He's really into Jen Psaki.

 

[Phatguysrule]

He's really into Jen Psaki.

 

[Shaboid]

 

[donkiez]

This is so terribly sad. Russia is becoming North Korea before our very eyes. All the people living this nightmare, after living with relative freedom before this, must be incredibly depressed right now.

 

[donkiez]

I also think China's real intentions are becoming more evident. Everyone was worried they were going to go all in on Taiwan and really start ww3. It seems now that they are working on an economic takeover of Russia. It appears they are buying up all Russian commodities for pennies on the dollar and working on "investing" in all Russia's major corporations. When the dust settles Russia will be a vassal state of China. Image how much of a force china will be in a few years after they own Russia's natural resources.....

 

[Shaboid]

This is so terribly sad. Russia is becoming North Korea before our very eyes. All the people living this nightmare, after living with relative freedom before this, must be incredibly depressed right now.

Very sad. It's hard to pity Russia with this going on, but I'm sure a majority of their citizens deserve it with how their freedoms are being trampled on.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I was really enjoying this OT thread. @UKRAINEFAN was really trying to get us info. I felt like it was eye opening and refreshing instead of being spoon fed what CNN was showing us.
Unfortunately it has gone astray.
I'm done with the thread.
I'll check back in a week and see if it's gotten any better.

Yeh, it's a little discouraging that we can't all be together on this.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Sergei Lavrov says Russia 'DIDN'T attack Ukraine', dismisses 'pathetic outcry' over maternity hospital bombing and admits the building WAS deliberately targeted - after peace talks collapse in Turkey

• Peace talks between Sergei Lavrov and Dmytro Kuleba in Ankara collapsed today without any progress
• Lavrov then made extraordinary claims that Russia did not attack Ukraine, hours after shelling a hospital
• Kuleba vowed Ukraine 'will not surrender' to Russia's demands after the 'difficult' negotiations
• The meeting was the highest-level diplomatic encounter since the Kremlin launched the invasion

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...raine-dismisses-pathetic-outcry-hospital.html

I call him "Liarov".

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Russia has fired 'about EIGHT' generals for failing to 'complete the task' of taking Ukraine in days, Kyiv official claims - as Putin rages over FSB failures

• Eight Russian generals sacked over Ukraine invasion failings, Kyiv said today
• Head of security council said Moscow has changed tactics after early defeats
• Putin also said to be furious at secret services for misleading him over resistance
• Moscow expected Ukrainian military to fold, but has met determined fighters

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-generals-rages-FSB-battlefield-failures.html

Maybe Putin should have got his head out of his ass and done a little reading over the last 8 years; he would have known things were a lot different now.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I also think China's real intentions are becoming more evident. Everyone was worried they were going to go all in on Taiwan and really start ww3. It seems now that they are working on an economic takeover of Russia. It appears they are buying up all Russian commodities for pennies on the dollar and working on "investing" in all Russia's major corporations. When the dust settles Russia will be a vassal state of China. Image how much of a force china will be in a few years after they own Russia's natural resources.....

Terrifying... And they've been doing this with many African countries as well, have they not?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[Phatguysrule]

LMAO, anybody who doesn't support Ukraine, or finds that they are uncomfortable by doing so is an asshole and I have no sympathy at all for them. They can get fucked.

 

[donkiez]

Terrifying... And they've been doing this with many African countries as well, have they not?

big time but at least Africa need lots of infrastructure built first. Russia has it mostly done and ready to go

 

[donkiez]

More evidence of fringe right wing associating "left policies" with support for Ukraine. The divide is happening right now and this will be more mainstream very soon.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[Phatguysrule]

big time but at least Africa need lots of infrastructure built first. Russia has it mostly done and ready to go

Lots and lots of people who will work for cheap though... Making drone armies, etc... Scary... and also tons of natural resources

 

[oldmangrouch]

I also think China's real intentions are becoming more evident. Everyone was worried they were going to go all in on Taiwan and really start ww3. It seems now that they are working on an economic takeover of Russia. It appears they are buying up all Russian commodities for pennies on the dollar and working on "investing" in all Russia's major corporations. When the dust settles Russia will be a vassal state of China. Image how much of a force china will be in a few years after they own Russia's natural resources.....

Between endemic corruption and traditional Russian xenophobia I suspect China would soon suffer buyer's remorse.