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calvin natt said:
The Ronald Reagan party being pro Putin isn’t something I saw coming prior to 2016 but here we are. Fucking assholes
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It is definitely one of the most bizarre twists of the 21st century. I never thought I'd see pro-Russian sentiment among Americans.... and the funny part is that most of them would proudly yell WOLVERINES or some dumb shit if we were attacked by Russia.
 
donkiez said:
I also think China's real intentions are becoming more evident. Everyone was worried they were going to go all in on Taiwan and really start ww3. It seems now that they are working on an economic takeover of Russia. It appears they are buying up all Russian commodities for pennies on the dollar and working on "investing" in all Russia's major corporations. When the dust settles Russia will be a vassal state of China. Image how much of a force china will be in a few years after they own Russia's natural resources.....
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Thats right on...
 
donkiez said:
I also think China's real intentions are becoming more evident. Everyone was worried they were going to go all in on Taiwan and really start ww3. It seems now that they are working on an economic takeover of Russia. It appears they are buying up all Russian commodities for pennies on the dollar and working on "investing" in all Russia's major corporations. When the dust settles Russia will be a vassal state of China. Image how much of a force china will be in a few years after they own Russia's natural resources.....
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And the Trump and Biden families will invest heavily, if they haven't already.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
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This is wrong. This can cause crazies to start attacking russian americans, much like muslims after 911.
Reckless and dangerous.

The government, the military, fair game. What they are doing is atrocious and will likely be devastating for decades. But we have got to stop lumping all in one. There ARE innocent people who are not strong enough to stand up to the government.
Just because they may lack the courage doesn't make them evil, especially those who fled/migrated to this country.
 
Orion Bailey said:
This is wrong. This can cause crazies to start attacking russian americans, much like muslims after 911.
Reckless and dangerous.

The government, the military, fair game. What they are doing is atrocious and will likely be devastating for decades. But we have got to stop lumping all in one. There ARE innocent people who are not strong enough to stand up to the government.
Just because they may lack the courage doesn't make them evil, especially those who fled/migrated to this country.
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For once, I agree with you. Promoting a new round of xenophobic behavior is a terrible idea. It always is.
 
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Orion Bailey said:
This is wrong. This can cause crazies to start attacking russian americans, much like muslims after 911.
Reckless and dangerous.

The government, the military, fair game. What they are doing is atrocious and will likely be devastating for decades. But we have got to stop lumping all in one. There ARE innocent people who are not strong enough to stand up to the government.
Just because they may lack the courage doesn't make them evil, especially those who fled/migrated to this country.
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Nobody is going to attack Russian Americans. You'll find the idiots who would do that to Muslims and Asians are good with Putin...
 
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Phatguysrule said:
Nobody is going to attack Russian Americans. You'll find the idiots who would do that to Muslims are good with Putin...
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Don't underestimate the stupidity and xenophobia of others. It can happen and already is. The longer this thing goes on the worse it will get. I agree that Russian Americans needs support, much like Asian Americans did during the pandemic and Muslim Americans during 9/11 times. Facebook is the worst thing to happen to us and is literally promoting hate for advertising clicks. It's their business model. Zuckerberg doesn't care who hates who as long as they click.
 
Russia's War Machine Slowed By Cheap Gear, Expired Rations

 
Orion Bailey said:
This is wrong. This can cause crazies to start attacking russian americans, much like muslims after 911.
Reckless and dangerous.

The government, the military, fair game. What they are doing is atrocious and will likely be devastating for decades. But we have got to stop lumping all in one. There ARE innocent people who are not strong enough to stand up to the government.
Just because they may lack the courage doesn't make them evil, especially those who fled/migrated to this country.
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But Russians!
 
Russian state television DEFIES President Putin's propaganda edict and broadcasts criticism of the war in Ukraine - with guests describing the shambolic invasion as 'like Afghanistan, but even WORSE'
  • Putin's war on freedom of expression in Russia appeared to be fraying at the edges on Thursday
  • Guests on Kremlin-backed television defied Moscow and openly criticised the ongoing war in Ukraine
  • Some said the invasion was worse than the Afghanistan operation in the 1980s which ended in failure
  • Putin has intensified a crackdown on media and individuals who fail to hew to the Kremlin line on the war

Putin's war on freedom of expression in Russia appeared to be fraying at the edges on Thursday after guests on Kremlin-backed TV defied Moscow and openly criticised the brutal conflict in Ukraine, calling the invasion 'even worse than Afghanistan'.

Guests have refused to support the narrative pushed through by television hosts on Putin's request that Russia has been conducting a 'special operation' to 'demilitarise' and 'de-Nazify' Ukraine – claims dismissed as baseless pretexts by Kyiv and her partners in the West.

One who appeared on one of Russia 1's prime time talk show 'An Evening with Vladimir Soloviev' rebelled by referring to the USSR's disastrous invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 which ended in withdrawal ten years later.

Historians argue that Moscow's failure in that war, in which thousands of Red Army troops were killed, fuelled disillusionment among millions of people in the Soviet Union and ultimately helped to bring about the collapse of the 'Evil Empire' in 1991.

The dissenters included Semyond Bagdasarov, an academic, who challenged host Vladimir Soloviev - often referred to as Putin's 'propagandist in chief' - to wonder whether Russia is getting involved in a conflict that would turn out to be even worse than Afghanistan.

'There are more people and they're more advanced in their weapon handling', he said, 'We don't need that. Enough already.' He then added: 'If this picture starts to transform into an absolute humanitarian disaster, even our close allies like China and India will be forced to distance themselves from us.'

'This public opinion, with which they're saturating the entire world, can play out badly for us... Ending this operation will stabilise things within the country.'

Karen Shakhnazarov, a filmmaker and state pundit, also sought to bust the Kremlin's narrative that it is conducting a limited 'special operation' in the Donbass region by referencing attacks on the capital of Kyiv - which is located hundreds of miles away.

'I have a hard time imagining taking cities such as Kyiv. I can't imagine how that would look,' he said, even as Putin's troops close in on the capital and launch attacks into the outskirts.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...state-TV-invasion-like-Afghanistan-worse.html
 
  • Russian troops in Ukraine have been issued gas masks as chemical warfare equipment is seized from captured troops amid warnings from the West that Putin will launch a gas attack
 
donkiez said:
I also think China's real intentions are becoming more evident. Everyone was worried they were going to go all in on Taiwan and really start ww3. It seems now that they are working on an economic takeover of Russia. It appears they are buying up all Russian commodities for pennies on the dollar and working on "investing" in all Russia's major corporations. When the dust settles Russia will be a vassal state of China. Image how much of a force china will be in a few years after they own Russia's natural resources.....
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Have you ever played the game Risk? It's exactly the way to take over the game if you draw your power in Asia. On a side note the only way to win if you draw your power in the US is to take over Canada and South America.
 
Amazon marketplace is still selling Republican Party T shirts with slogan "I'd rather be Russian than Democrat".
 
donkiez said:
I also think China's real intentions are becoming more evident. Everyone was worried they were going to go all in on Taiwan and really start ww3. It seems now that they are working on an economic takeover of Russia. It appears they are buying up all Russian commodities for pennies on the dollar and working on "investing" in all Russia's major corporations. When the dust settles Russia will be a vassal state of China. Image how much of a force china will be in a few years after they own Russia's natural resources.....
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They've already done this with African infrastructure projects.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Have you ever played the game Risk? It's exactly the way to take over the game if you draw your power in Asia. On a side note the only way to win if you draw your power in the US is to take over Canada and South America.
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Yes I used to love that game. Currently Ukraine is rolling 6s, let's hope it makes Putin rage quit.

My strategy was to always take Australia first so I could get a foothold into Asia. Australia was so easy to defend and the troop bonus helped a lot early.
 
donkiez said:
Yes I used to love that game. Currently Ukraine is rolling 6s, let's hope it makes Putin rage quit.

My strategy was to always take Australia first so I could get a foothold into Asia. Australia was so easy to defend and the troop bonus helped a lot early.
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Yeah Australia and Indonesia works. I like holding North America at Alaska and Greenland and South America at Brazil. Game Over.
 
donkiez said:
Don't underestimate the stupidity and xenophobia of others. It can happen and already is. The longer this thing goes on the worse it will get. I agree that Russian Americans needs support, much like Asian Americans did during the pandemic and Muslim Americans during 9/11 times. Facebook is the worst thing to happen to us and is literally promoting hate for advertising clicks. It's their business model. Zuckerberg doesn't care who hates who as long as they click.
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I think it'll be much less of a problem than you may fear.

Again, the ignorant fools who would do that are on Putin's side.
 
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My oldest daughter sent me this. Its embarrassing to be honest. I would think she would be coached not to chuckle when diplomatically answering questions. I know she didn't mean disrespect but I think it could be perceived that way while beingasked about refugee's.

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Kamala Harris tested over Polish fighter jet row as Ukraine war rages
Another awkward moment: Kamala Harris' high-stakes Ukraine war ... and turned to Duda to provide the answer first, laughing at her own joke...
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scroll down and watch video...
 
What's the situation now? Ukrainian forces holding steady, especially in the North (they don't have enough forces to hold Russia out of the cities in the South for much longer). As you probably know there is a lost of passive resistance in the few cities occupied by Russia. They have done a lot of damage to Russian forces in the north. There is some surprise at how many tanks and other military vehicles still in running condition, that have been abandoned by the Russians. The consensus seems to be moving towards the conclusion that Ukraine will win this war but it will be long and bloody before final victory.
A couple concerns right now, Russia threatening to bring in mercenaries from Middle East, but I'm not sure if any substantial forces will be coming. Russian bombers have bombed a small Belarussian city and blaming on Ukraine, apparently hoping to bring Belarus forces into the war. Also there is some intelligence that Russia may blow up Chernobyl and try to blame it on Ukraine.
I will post this article from WAPO, hope you have a free view left. Good big view of military situation. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...russia-military-ukraine-battlefield-progress/
 
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UKRAINEFAN said:
What's the situation now? Ukrainian forces holding steady, especially in the North (they don't have enough forces to hold Russia out of the cities in the South for much longer). As you probably know there is a lost of passive resistance in the few cities occupied by Russia. They have done a lot of damage to Russian forces in the north. There is some surprise at how many tanks and other military vehicles still in running condition, that have been abandoned by the Russians. The consensus seems to be moving towards the conclusion that Ukraine will win this war but it will be long and bloody before final victory.
A couple concerns right now, Russia threatening to bring in mercenaries from Middle East, but I'm not sure if any substantial forces will be coming. Russian bombers have bombed a small Belarussian city and blaming on Ukraine, apparently hoping to bring Belarus forces into the war. Also there is some intelligence that Russia my blow up Chernobyl and try to blame it on Ukraine.
I will post this article from WAPO, hope you have a free view left. Good big view of military situation. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...russia-military-ukraine-battlefield-progress/
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And if you don't have a view, check out this archived version

https://archive.ph/jtSzM
 
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