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Sounds like you are pulling that idea out of your ass.



You go ahead and bash her for her abortion stance if you like. As far as I can tell that's the least of the problems with her candidacy.



You know that absolutely everything embarrassing that can be unearthed about the opposition will be, so why pretend it is linked to some national scandal? Hell, for that matter, there's no proof that her Republican primary opponent didn't release the data.

barfo

I judge by what Merkley's people say their internal polls say and what the real polls say. Nothing from thin air.

Timing is what links the release of the information to the national scandal.
 
I judge by what Merkley's people say their internal polls say and what the real polls say. Nothing from thin air.

Timing is what links the release of the information to the national scandal.

Sure. It's very likely that, 5 or 6 months from the election, the incumbent felt the need to hide an unrelated national scandal that he had nothing to do with by releasing information about his not-yet-opponent.

Or maybe, since the primary was a week away, maybe the primary opponent felt like this might get the win for him?

Somehow the latter seems like a more plausible theory.

barfo
 
Sure. It's very likely that, 5 or 6 months from the election, the incumbent felt the need to hide an unrelated national scandal that he had nothing to do with by releasing information about his not-yet-opponent.

Or maybe, since the primary was a week away, maybe the primary opponent felt like this might get the win for him?

Somehow the latter seems like a more plausible theory.

barfo

I hope Wehby wins just so I can continue to sit here slackjawed at barfo's War on Women as he continues his tantrum.

She had a complaint from the police one time and she's creepy and hysterical! She deliberately did unnecessary surgeries!
 
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I hope Wehby wins just so we can see barfo's War on Women continue.

Yes, I hate women. Grrr! Women bad!

If you don't support a particular female candidate, you are engaged in a War on Women. That's not a completely stupid idea, is it?

barfo
 
I hope Wehby wins just so I can continue to sit here slackjawed

Come on. That's the way you ALWAYS sit there.

She had a complaint from the police one time

Or, maybe 3 times.

and she's creepy and hysterical!

Is she? I haven't met her. But I'll take your word for it.

She deliberately did unnecessary surgeries!

Wow, I thought she was duped into doing them based on her eagerness to perform her favorite surgery. But I guess if she did them deliberately you've got a stronger case than me.

barfo
 
Sure. It's very likely that, 5 or 6 months from the election, the incumbent felt the need to hide an unrelated national scandal that he had nothing to do with by releasing information about his not-yet-opponent.

Or maybe, since the primary was a week away, maybe the primary opponent felt like this might get the win for him?

Somehow the latter seems like a more plausible theory.

barfo

It's more likely that the VA debacle is going to sting democrats for the next 5-6 months.
 
It's more likely that the VA debacle is going to sting democrats for the next 5-6 months.

You could be right, but my guess is not. This shit (at the VA) has been going on for decades, and while the Democrats definitely should have cleaned it up in the past few years while they've been in power, and didn't, it's unlikely that this will be the story of the 2014 election.

We'll see. But that doesn't mean your attempt to link stalking and VA is plausible in the least.

barfo
 
You could be right, but my guess is not. This shit (at the VA) has been going on for decades, and while the Democrats definitely should have cleaned it up in the past few years while they've been in power, and didn't, it's unlikely that this will be the story of the 2014 election.

We'll see. But that doesn't mean your attempt to link stalking and VA is plausible in the least.

barfo

There's a lot of video tape of the democrats railing against W. Now they've been in charge for years and they've failed to keep their promises.

Not only that, the VA is the poster child for "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."

And you're busy trying to talk about stalking vs. the VA debacle. At least the Democrats have you duped.
 
There's a lot of video tape of the democrats railing against W. Now they've been in charge for years and they've failed to keep their promises.

Not only that, the VA is the poster child for "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."

No doubt. I agree the D's should have cleaned it up. Absolutely they bear the blame for that.

However, the political implications of that are another story. So far, voters have not held either party accountable for the many, many VA scandals over the years.

barfo
 
http://www.nationaljournal.com/daily/for-democrats-va-problems-pose-a-real-political-threat-20140515

Democrats who believe they have emerged unscathed from the Republican focus on Benghazi and the IRS—which President Obama has described as a "sideshow"—are not quite as confident about the burgeoning scandal at the Veterans Administration. As Congress opens hearings on allegations of secret "waiting lists" and veterans dying because of treatment delays, the political threat is considered very real.

"The one that I think hurts the Democrats the most is not Benghazi, is not IRS, is not Obamacare," said veteran Ohio Democratic strategist Jerry Austin. "It is the Veterans Administration. The idea of having wounded warriors dying and all these terrible stories here, that is something that no one can defend."

He added, "It looks like that is one that has legs."

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You go, Paul.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0DE6DD113FF934A15752C0A9609C8B63

I know about a health care system that has been highly successful in containing costs, yet provides excellent care. And the story of this system's success provides a helpful corrective to anti-government ideology. For the government doesn't just pay the bills in this system--it runs the hospitals and clinics.

No, I'm not talking about some faraway country. The system in question is our very own Veterans Health Administration, whose success story is one of the best-kept secrets in the American policy debate.
 
USA Today for the win, again!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/06/05/bergdahl-afghanistan-va-scandal-column/9969187/

White House plots VA-scandal distractions: Column

In the wake of the VA scandal, President Obama mounts a series of PR moves.

...

Then a new crisis emerged — revelations that veterans seeking health care through the Veterans Administration were waiting months to be seen and that records were falsified to hide the facts.

Sensing correctly, if not a bit late, that this scandal could not only be seriously damaging to the president, but also to congressional Democrats running in the 2014 elections, the White House rolled out the PR limo. But after five-plus years of high mileage, it is running more like a rickety fire truck manned by the Keystone Kops.
 
And you're busy trying to talk about stalking vs. the VA debacle.

That's cute. You are the one who attempted to link the two, as you know perfectly well.

barfo
 
No doubt. I agree the D's should have cleaned it up. Absolutely they bear the blame for that.

However, the political implications of that are another story. So far, voters have not held either party accountable for the many, many VA scandals over the years.

barfo

Obama ran in part on cleaning up the VA. It's gotten worse. Yet you say "the D's".
 
That's cute. You are the one who attempted to link the two, as you know perfectly well.

barfo

Nobody can touch your union pension, fwiw. Yet you're still trying to encourage a new generation of uneducated laborers who need union bosses to speak for them, and who the federal government needs to be dependent upon for their wages.
 
Obama ran in part on cleaning up the VA. It's gotten worse. Yet you say "the D's".

Do you think the voters are going to hold Obama accountable? How are they going to do that, given that he's not ever running for office again?

That's why I say "the D's".

barfo
 
Nobody can touch your union pension, fwiw. Yet you're still trying to encourage a new generation of uneducated laborers who need union bosses to speak for them, and who the federal government needs to be dependent upon for their wages.

This is a very interesting rant, but I can't quite connect it to stalking, the VA, or reality.

barfo
 
That's cute. You are the one who attempted to link the two, as you know perfectly well.

barfo

You're the one making something out of a non-issue to help bury the VA scandal.
 
You're the one making something out of a non-issue to help bury the VA scandal.

Am I "the one"? I didn't start the stalking story (here or elsewhere). And I haven't tried to shut anyone up about the VA. I don't think the two have anything to do with each other, and both can exist simultaneously. One is national, one is local.

barfo
 
Am I "the one"? I didn't start the stalking story (here or elsewhere). And I haven't tried to shut anyone up about the VA. I don't think the two have anything to do with each other, and both can exist simultaneously. One is national, one is local.

barfo

As USA Today makes it clear, there is a concerted PR effort underway to move the VA scandal off the front burner.

She does a fundraising mailer based on the VA issue. Almost immediately the smears against her start.

In politics, you can tell who's winning the PR battle by what is in the news.
 
As USA Today makes it clear, there is a concerted PR effort underway to move the VA scandal off the front burner.

She does a fundraising mailer based on the VA issue. Almost immediately the smears against her start.

Ok, this time it is you that got the timeline wrong.

From your link:

Posted: 05/28/2014 WASHINGTON -- Oregon GOP Senate candidate Monica Wehby used the troubles at the Department of Veterans Affairs Wednesday as the basis for a fundraising email attacking her opponent, Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.).

Wehby's email to supporters came on the day that the VA inspector general released a scathing report concluding that veterans waited an average of 115 days for a first primary care appointment at the troubled veterans hospital in Phoenix -- far longer than officials there had originally claimed.

And from your prior post (bolding yours):

Then, just before the May 20 primary, reports surfaced regarding Wehby’s personal life

barfo
 

"Friedman works as a research assistant."

2 things, if I was paying an employee to be a research assistant I would fire them if they didn't do a simple public records search on an opponent. Also I'm sure Wehby's campaign staff and the Republican party of Oregon have done similar public record searches on Merkley.

This is how both parties conduct campaigns. Hardly a smoking gun.
 
"Friedman works as a research assistant."

2 things, if I was paying an employee to be a research assistant I would fire them if they didn't do a simple public records search on an opponent. Also I'm sure Wehby's campaign staff and the Republican party of Oregon have done similar public record searches on Merkley.

This is how both parties conduct campaigns. Hardly a smoking gun.

No Sly, what we know is the Democrats didn't fail to do a public records search to deflect the issues away from Merckley. Merckley's crappy record voting for and supporting bad policy are plan for all to see. An Obama boot lick is his claim to fame, no wonder we have to hear about
Wehby's companions turning on her.
My Wife asked me this evening, what kind of panty waste call the police on a woman?

Well I suppose there will more of this to endure, but if Merkley had something to crow about
we would be hearing it . Don't you agree?
He's Obama's boot lick, voting for ObamaCare, Ban the 100w lightbulb and other tripe.
 
The following is Merkley's response to my query about the tax on self insured employers who provide insurance for employees, dependents and retirees and their dependents. I asked him if he had epected this tax to produce
revenue and if he did why did he expect it to produce revenue?

You see he dd not even take up the subject. BTW, Obama has since then exempted the Unions from this tax.

from Merckley;

One of the central goals of the Affordable Care Act was to expand access to high quality health insurance plans for those who did not like what they had or did not have any options at all, while allowing those who did like their insurance plan to keep it. By allowing consumers this choice, the law gave potentially affected consumers the power to decide whether they wanted to switch plans or keep the plan they had. Today, because insurance companies have changed their plans over the past few years to maximize profits, most of the plans that would have been grandfathered are no longer offered by insurance companies. At the same time, insurance companies signed people up for new or changed plans that didn't meet the basic consumer protections in the Affordable Care Act, and didn't warn people that their plan would eventually be discontinued. As a result, many consumers in Oregon and across the country don't have the choice to keep their insurance plan because it wasn't offered in 2010 when the Affordable Care Act became law.

I believe it's unfair to make consumers pay the price for their insurance company denying them the ability to choose the right plan for their family. To correct this situation, I recently cosponsored the Keeping the Affordable Care Act Promise Act (S. 1642), a bill that would allow consumers to keep any health insurance plan currently in place until the policy holder decides to cancel or change the policy. I was pleased that after this legislation was introduced, President Obama announced an executive action allowing all insurance plans currently in place to continue through 2014.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me and giving me a chance to share my perspective. I hope you will continue to send your observations and thoughts my way.
All my best,

Jeffrey A. Merkley
United States Senator



Quit digging Jeff, the hole is too friggin deep. Take a break! The new law he wants to undo the damage won't get my insurance back and the he won't get any revenue either.
Actually Merkleys comment reveal he doesn't even understand the concept of how insurance works, but he is not alone, Obama doesn't either.
 
So, legally accessing public records is a smoking gun, huh?

barfo

Nobody else accessed them. You said it was her republican opponent. The record shows it was Merkley who did it.
 
Nobody else accessed them. You said it was her republican opponent. The record shows it was Merkley who did it.

Three sentences, and not one of them is accurate! Impressive.

barfo
 
Three sentences, and not one of them is accurate! Impressive.

barfo

Who accessed the records blows your theory out of the water and fits mine.

How does it feel to argue on the wrong side of things always? :)
 
The internal polling on this capitulation by Obama must be horrific for the WH

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