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RiseWithDE said:
Congrats. That sounds just like the way I summarized it above.
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No it doesn't, not at all. Your comment was in reply to my statement that actual research involves more than watching some trash TV program about aliens. It was completely off the wall. All I was doing earlier in this thread was warning Stomp that you claimed to have attended coaching workshops. You denied that you made that claim, and I proved that you did make that claim. End of story. lol...
 
SpamKing said:
No it doesn't, not at all. Your comment was in reply to my statement that actual research involves more than watching some trash TV program about aliens. It was completely off the wall. All I was doing earlier in this thread was warning Stomp that you claimed to have attended coaching workshops. You denied that you made that claim, and I proved that you did make that claim. End of story. lol...
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lol...Don't make me "Google cache" about you and your archeology buddy going to Peru and how that added to your credentials on the subject ("off the wall" btw...how would i have any clue about that w/o you "informing" the forum).

And again, you have reading comprehension problems. Me telling you "you must think attending coaching clinics is a big deal to fit in such a small skull" is not a denial I attended coaching clinics. (They're called clinics, Spammy...but maybe you attended a basketball game with a coach before or something and know better)... I do deny "informing" anyone about anything...except for you to shut your yapper about basketball since hanging out with "experts" makes my opinions better than yours according to your own screwed up logic.

Live by your rules or don't cry when it bites you in the butt. "End of story".
 
What the hell kind of train wreck did this thread become?
 
RiseWithDE said:
lol...Don't make me "Google cache" about you and your archeology buddy going to Peru and how that added to your credentials on the subject ("off the wall" btw...how would i have any clue about that w/o you "informing" the forum).

And again, you have reading comprehension problems. Me telling you "you must think attending coaching clinics is a big deal to fit in such a small skull" is not a denial I attended coaching clinics. (They're called clinics, Spammy...but maybe you attended a basketball game with a coach before or something and know better)... I do deny "informing" anyone about anything...except for you to shut your yapper about basketball since hanging out with "experts" makes my opinions better than yours according to your own screwed up logic.

Live by your rules or don't cry when it bites you in the butt. "End of story".
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You looked like an idiot then, and you look like an idiot now...
 
HAAK72 said:
...yeah, and to think, I just wanted to know how Batum looked?!
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Considering he was going against two waves of elite NBA talent with France's bench, I thought he did well. Some are "gloating" that he didn't show much dimension beyond the jump shooting he does with the Blazers, but under the circumstances I saw glimpses of things he can do that he's not currently being utilized to do.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Just some people who need to be beaten about the head and shoulders with an "Olive" branch.
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Again. Apologies. I was told this was the place to be to avoid this kind of crap. Old habits die hard. Will try to avoid the "master baiters" taking my threads off the rails.
 
RiseWithDE said:
No, I don't remember saying the crap you're spewing. I can see you take bits and pieces of all kinds of things and either can't comprehend them or blow them up willy nilly to look idiotic. Like trying to make a pig muddy you kind of get quite a bit on yourself. You butt still stinging from some OLive whooping previous or something? Cuz I can't remember but you're obviously carrying some mental burden. Your cross brother. (Dragon?)
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Willy nilly? :rofl:
 
RiseWithDE said:
Considering he was going against two waves of elite NBA talent with France's bench, I thought he did well. Some are "gloating" that he didn't show much dimension beyond the jump shooting he does with the Blazers, but under the circumstances I saw glimpses of things he can do that he's not currently being utilized to do.
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Thank you!
 
SpamKing said:
LOL... Guys are cheering your departure from OLive... It's that bad...
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43 posts in two years for you in here Spam. Half in this thread. Why not contribute something basketball related that might get a few thousand views and a couple hundred responses maybe. Think you can do it? Or do you call yourself Spam for a reason? I did it on my second post. Not too hard. Let's see you add some basketball value.

Not going to get in another non-basketball exchange with you about me leaving OLive (false...can you find me a google cache of me "informing" the forum of leaving?) or how you leaving that place would be met with nobody noticing. Try contributing basketball content. Something interesting to S2... Good luck in your quest.
 
I'm finding this thread a little hard to follow (aside from the massive o-live segue) how did any of you guys make any hard observations about an individual player when it was clear that France was completely overwhelmed and over matched? All I could pull out of that mess was Nic was trying play off the ball and deferred to De Colo and Diaw and did his best to keep his head above water while the boat sank around him. That's a bad French team with with no depth and fairly poor point guard play . . .
 
RiseWithDE said:
43 posts in two years for you in here Spam. Half in this thread. Why not contribute something basketball related that might get a few thousand views and a couple hundred responses maybe. Think you can do it? Or do you call yourself Spam for a reason? I did it on my second post. Not too hard. Let's see you add some basketball value.

Not going to get in another non-basketball exchange with you about me leaving OLive (false...can you find me a google cache of me "informing" the forum of leaving?) or how you leaving that place would be met with nobody noticing. Try contributing basketball content. Something interesting to S2... Good luck in your quest.
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Just have to get the last word, doncha? Your thin act won't fool anybody over here, just like it didn't at OLive...
 
Nikolokolus said:
I'm finding this thread a little hard to follow (aside from the massive o-live segue) how did any of you guys make any hard observations about an individual player when it was clear that France was completely overwhelmed and over matched? All I could pull out of that mess was Nic was trying play off the ball and deferred to De Colo and Diaw and did his best to keep his head above water while the boat sank around him. That's a bad French team with with no depth and fairly poor point guard play . . .
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Same. They're without their two top point guards - did anyone really expect them to play well against a team with a pretty stud perimeter defender like Rondo? They had consist problems getting the ball up the floor due to the press.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I'm finding this thread a little hard to follow (aside from the massive o-live segue) how did any of you guys make any hard observations about an individual player when it was clear that France was completely overwhelmed and over matched? All I could pull out of that mess was Nic was trying play off the ball and deferred to De Colo and Diaw and did his best to keep his head above water while the boat sank around him. That's a bad French team with with no depth and fairly poor point guard play . . .
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So true...

I just watched the game in hopes Nic would play as good as possible, nothing more and nothing less.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I'm finding this thread a little hard to follow (aside from the massive o-live segue) how did any of you guys make any hard observations about an individual player when it was clear that France was completely overwhelmed and over matched? All I could pull out of that mess was Nic was trying play off the ball and deferred to De Colo and Diaw and did his best to keep his head above water while the boat sank around him. That's a bad French team with with no depth and fairly poor point guard play . . .
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This definitely was probably the worst opponent and environment for Nic to showcase his entire skill set. The whole premise of the (basketball) thread was to watch Batum to see if he could show some things he's not given an opportunity to do in Portland. (Have plays run for him more than once a week, take and undersized defender to the block...anything that doesn't involve standing in the corner and waiting).

The same thing goes for Rudy. He looked (literally) like a world beater just before joining this team, had a great start but was ultimately relegated to being a player waiting on the wing or corner for jump shots. Haven't been in here long enough to get thoughts on Rudy but OLive for the most part thinks he "sucks" now... I know it's hard to go where from Rudy was...and then become what Nate wanted him to be (stand outside shooting role player) and be "aces" every time he steps on the floor.

Same for LMA. Every passing year sees him get farther and farther from the block shooting jumpers. I can't tell you how many times last year I thought "quit friggin jump shooting all game" for the entire roster not named Roy.

There is so much more dynamic talent on this roster than is being utilized on the floor. Was hoping Batum would be exhibit A Sunday morning. Despite a bad place to do so, I found some things he could be doing in PDX that he's not. Other's didn't. Depends on what you're looking for I guess.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I'm finding this thread a little hard to follow (aside from the massive o-live segue) how did any of you guys make any hard observations about an individual player when it was clear that France was completely overwhelmed and over matched? All I could pull out of that mess was Nic was trying play off the ball and deferred to De Colo and Diaw and did his best to keep his head above water while the boat sank around him. That's a bad French team with with no depth and fairly poor point guard play . . .
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There were a few things that could be observed...

The main thing for me was trying to get an idea of his ball handling abilities. There were many times when he received the balled foul-line-extened. A few times he made some half-hearted attempts to drive but it was pretty clear to me that the ball handling wasn't strong enough (yet?) to take a good defender off the dribble... especially left handed. This was enough to show that he has a LONG way to go before we start experimenting with him as a point-forward.
 
blazerboy30 said:
There were a few things that could be observed...

The main thing for me was trying to get an idea of his ball handling abilities. There were many times when he received the balled foul-line-extened. A few times he made some half-hearted attempts to drive but it was pretty clear to me that the ball handling wasn't strong enough (yet?) to take a good defender off the dribble... especially left handed. This was enough to show that he has a LONG way to go before we start experimenting with him as a point-forward.
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I see him being used in the low block a bit more when the likes of Steve Nash or Stephen Curry is guarding him. Teaching one dribble moves to attack the basket off swing passes to the weakside (not necessarily having to break down his man from the top of the key a la Roy).

It's not simply having to develop Point Forward skills before we can take advantage of his agility and length.
 
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