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Great signing... if he turns into something Blazers have his rights. He has unique physical attributes, so the potential is there if coaching staff can develop him. I hope we use remaining cap room to lock up Papagiannis to same contract... Papagiannis like Baldwin has very unique physical attributes... 20 year old 7’2” center that can shoot. Having a couple young players like that on minimum ungaranteed deals is great
 
Gronk Brady said:
Great signing... if he turns into something Blazers have his rights. He has unique physical attributes, so the potential is there if coaching staff can develop him. I hope we use remaining cap room to lock up Papagiannis to same contract... Papagiannis like Baldwin has very unique physical attributes... 20 year old 7’2” center that can shoot. Having a couple young players like that on minimum ungaranteed deals is great
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Not much of a downside with that plan.

I’d like to see the Blazers strength and conditioning team work with Papagiannis for an offseason. He’s lost weight since last year but if he can get his conditioning levels up, I think we could have a very nice backup and a good option for when Nurk is in foul trouble and we’re playing a traditional center.
 
Another thing about Papagiannis is that he evidently had/has offers from some big European clubs, so I’m not sure how bad he wants to give the nba a go when he’s got guaranteed money waiting for him overseas, closer to his home.

Not really sure why he even took a 10 day contract with Portland, unless there’s a long term plan we don’t know about.
 
tester551 said:
LOL... I read through it 4 different times.
Every time I would read '18-'19 and think to myself -> "to the end of this season".
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Wojs tweet threw me off too because he said it was for the rest of this season.
 
Blazinaway said:
Napier "insurance" in case he gets too big an offer as an RFA is my guess, good signing
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Yes, and Papagiannis can be Nurk insurance... in case someone offers Nurk a huge deal. Then we can role with Ed at starting center, Collins at PF and Papagiannis a developmental center of the future off the bench
 
tester551 said:
He should be playoff eligible.

I wonder if his contract extends into next year too... I'd be good if we can have him on a min contract in 18-19 season.

It will be interesting to see what happens with PapaG too. I doubt he gets signed for the rest of the season (as I think that would bump us into tax territory). Is it too late to get him onto a 2-way contract now? If so, I think Portland just lets him walk.
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Team option?
 
Chris Craig said:
Team option?
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Pretty much. His contract isn’t guaranteed for next season. That being said, I think they signed Baldwin with the idea of developing him. He’ll be a cheap end of the bench guy next season.
 
Scalma said:
Pretty much. His contract isn’t guaranteed for next season. That being said, I think they signed Baldwin with the idea of developing him. He’ll be a cheap end of the bench guy next season.
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Bye Layman
 
Chris Craig said:
Bye Layman
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Pretty much. Have to let him go by June 30 before his contract becomes guaranteed. Of course they could always kick that deadline down the road but what’s the point, he’s shown literally zero development. I’m not even sure he would survive Europe.
 
DDolla said:
Nice read from Wade and Dame approvedhttps://t.co/TXg8Uq9Kex
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He showed me some maturity when after the first steal and dunk when Harden chest butted him, he stood his ground and just patted Harden on the butt. Then on his 2nd steal, instead of trying to force something, he slowed it down, got the ball to Nurk and the ended up with Nurkic later getting a layup.

Quite mature for a guy who has played so few games...to not get caught up in his own success.
 
Many here still ask why the Grizz let Baldwin go. Here's why:
Last season, veteran players complained that Baldwin was too cocky.

“I really don’t think it was cocky. It was defensiveness,” Fizdale said. “He came in trying to show that he belonged and that he fit. Sometimes when you’re doing that you can alienate people. Or (at) least give that vibe that you’re not approachable and have all of the answers.”

More: Grizzlies playoff hopes depend on star power, stylistic balance

Conley tried to mentor Baldwin throughout training camp.

“We talked about his attitude. You know, how a lot of the young guys come in and feel entitled,” Conley said. “They know it all. Too cool. I told him that was you last year. You can tell the difference when you’re all in with the team, willing to listen and be coachable … the sky is the limit for you. He worked a lot in the summer, being in contact with guys and staying connected.”
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https://www.commercialappeal.com/st...es-waive-trade-baldwin-and-zagorac/767161001/
 
"I’ve always been a defensive player, and given my circumstances – having an organization kind of, you know, throw me away, I just strive to be the hungriest person in the NBA and build my brand back up,’’ Baldwin said. “Defense is my ticket. Every time I go down the court, that’s my calling card. I’m just going to go hard with that.’’
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Love that about you W.
 
TBpup said:
He acknowledge it (props) and there was no leader on the Grizzlies anywhere near like what the Blazers have in Lillard.
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Well, Conley isn't a slouch so I wouldn't say anywhere NEAR but Dame is an awesome leader esp for young players like Wade and Nurk.
 
If WB4 is an option at starting SG, does that open up a CJ for Kawhi trade without losing anything (and maybe gaining something) at the shooting guard position?

Dame
WB4
Kawhi
Zach
Nurkic

Bazz
Pat
Turner
Biggie
Ed Davis

That's a decent team that could win games in playoffs.
 
He reminded me of young Westbrook tonight, back when Russ was unproven and was locked in defensively. We’re still underutilizing him offensively though. He needs the ball in his hands. It’d make a lot more sense to have Shabazz/CJ off the ball since they're better shooters. That’s not Baldwin’s game. Baldwin is a better playmaker however. Always looking for teammates and puts zip on his passes. He’s got an arm; used to play baseball.
 
KingSpeed said:
If WB4 is an option at starting SG, does that open up a CJ for Kawhi trade without losing anything (and maybe gaining something) at the shooting guard position?

Dame
WB4
Kawhi
Zach
Nurkic

Bazz
Pat
Turner
Biggie
Ed Davis

That's a decent team that could win games in playoffs.
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I would trade CJ for Kawhi in a heartbeat.
 
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