Way too early trade suggestions (9 Viewers)

[SharpesTriumph]

Exactly. It's kind of a Catch-22 - if we DO trade the picks to the Bucks, they will tank and make them good. If we don't, they'll target players in return for Giannis that will help them NOT tank. In other words, if we keep them, they probably won't be good. It's kind of the opposite of sour grapes.

In theory you can say this about acquiring ANY draft pick.

The thing is sometimes even when teams try to win they don't. The Pelicans have zero incentive to tank this year - how'd that winning work out?

The Bucks thought Miles Turner and Kyle Kuzma would be key starters to win with Giannis. I have little faith their front office even if making efforts to acquire winning players will executive that strategy and avoid the lottery.

Also we saw with the Mavs last year and many other times have seen how a team at any spot in the lottery can get a top4 pick. The Blazers having three years to roll the dice on the Bucks lottery luck while working to win themselves is a rare situation teams hardly ever get the chance to pursue in the NBA. While I'm not 100% holding onto the Bucks picks no matter what - I would want a hell of a good return to consider handing those over.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Yeah, I said before, the best value of those picks is in the Bucks' possession. They're looking at a top 10 pick this year, and whatever they get for Giannis potentially. And then no incentive to tank, if we have their picks. And Atlanta has their '27. Could be a top pick, but they won't aggressively tank like other teams. So it's likely a 8-12 spot jump in the draft. Still great, and I like the option. But their value, like a stock, is inching towards its peak, IMO

Atlanta only has the 2027 Bucks pick if its outside the top4 - if its top4 then the Pelicans have it.

Thats another reason we're the #1 team the Bucks will explore having in a Giannis trade. They can't even go to any other single team to get one year of their picks back, let alone the three years we fully control.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Would you pay Milwaukee's picks back to get Bam?

Something like - Giannis and MT to the Heat, Bam and Rozier to Portland, Grant, RW3, Rupert, Jaquez, Jaquisions and the Milwaukee picks + whatever picks Miami has to the Bucks.

So the Heat plan to pair Giannis with Hero? LMAO not happening.

Their going to require Bam stay on the squad if acquiring Giannis.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Yeah, I said before, the best value of those picks is in the Bucks' possession. They're looking at a top 10 pick this year, and whatever they get for Giannis potentially. And then no incentive to tank, if we have their picks. And Atlanta has their '27. Could be a top pick, but they won't aggressively tank like other teams. So it's likely a 8-12 spot jump in the draft. Still great, and I like the option. But their value, like a stock, is inching towards its peak, IMO

But overall yes you are probably right those Bucks picks are worth more to the Bucks than any team. Probably the same argument for any teams picks. But it often doesn't really matter much unless a team has a chance to be in the lottery. But if it gets to that point it flips from something teams like to hold onto to a desperate desire to reacquire their own pick.

I will say getting the two Bucks swaps has worked out beautifully. At the time of the Dame trade those weren't thought of very highly. Now they probably have more value than a top8 protected FRP.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[andalusian]

So the Heat plan to pair Giannis with Hero? LMAO not happening.

The Heat already do not play Ware and Bam together (*), that way they have Giannis with Ware and they still keep Norman Powell and Herro.

You really can't expect Miami to get Giannis without giving some value - and let's face it, Herro is not the key return of a superstar trade. Miami tried that and it did not work for them. This way they get off the Bam / Ware duo that they do not seem to like playing together anyway and upgrade Bam to Giannis for a relatively small price of a couple of role players and picks.

Their going to require Bam stay on the squad if acquiring Giannis.

If that's what they want, they do not get Giannis. No-one is giving them a superstar for a poopoo platter. Did not work before, will not work now. They need to match salaries - and a package based on Herro is not going to cut it.

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[SharpesTriumph]

The Heat already do not play Ware and Bam together (*), that way they have Giannis with Ware and they still keep Norman Powell and Herro.

You really can't expect Miami to get Giannis without giving some value - and let's face it, Herro is not the key return of a superstar trade. Miami tried that and it did not work for them. This way they get off the Bam / Ware duo that they do not seem to like playing together anyway and upgrade Bam to Giannis for a relatively small price of a couple of role players and picks.


If that's what they want, they do not get Giannis. No-one is giving them a superstar for a poopoo platter. Did not work before, will not work now. They need to match salaries - and a package based on Herro is not going to cut it.

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You answered your own question on Ware/Bam. Miami can send out Ware, Jacquez, most of their picks, Hero. That is what they'd try to do. Maybe it won't be enough - but they're not sending out Bam.

No team is going to send out their best player to acquire Giannis. That doesn't make any sense. Why would Giannis resign when his contract ends in a few months.

Only team to do something like that this century was the Mavs last year sending out Doncic. Meanwhile their GM was fired, even after getting Flag. It has gone down as the dumbest trade in the history of the NBA.

 

[andalusian]

You answered your own question on Ware/Bam. Miami can send out Ware, Jacquez, most of their picks, Hero. That is what they'd try to do. Maybe it won't be enough - but they're not sending out Bam.

No team is going to send out their best player to acquire Giannis. That doesn't make any sense. Why would Giannis resign when his contract ends in a few months.

Only team to do something like that this century was the Mavs last year sending out Doncic. Meanwhile their GM was fired, even after getting Flag. It has gone down as the dumbest trade in the history of the NBA.

No, you answered the question, Portland is not returning the picks for ware and Milwaukee is not giving Gianni’s for the poopoo platter. That’s the only way Miami can get Giannis. If they don’t do that, Portland doesn’t want to play and the bucks will look elsewhere

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

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