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What about something like this?

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Bucks get their picks back and Towns/Grant/Robinson. Can shop Towns/Grant for value now or in the summer.
Knicks get Giannis and Jrue
Blazers get Bridges, Portis, Kuzma (possible send elsewhere), and three Knicks unprotected swaps in 2028/2030/2032

Blazers depth chart next season;

Dame Scoot
Sharpe
Bridges Camara
Deni Kuzma
Clingan Portis

We get an elite durable two way wing in Bridges who is younger than Giannis, clear up a lot of salary with Grant/Jrue leaving, don't lose any of our young core. That roster makes more positional sense next season than having Jrue. While likely less valuable than the Bucks picks those three Knicks swaps could be very damn valuable as Giannis/Jrue/Brunson/OG age in the next 6 years. Knicks under Dolan have a lot of history of not being able to avoid the lottery.

(for the 2028 swap from NY; While it is the worst of the NY/Brooklyn pick since the Knicks already gave the Nets a swap - it seems very possible that the Nets will still suck at that time. So that would be a third "unprotected" swap NY could send our way. The 2030/2032 swaps are simple, more valuable with only NY-PDX, as well as when the Knicks players decline more)
 
That backup group of Scoot, Camara, Kuzma, Portis would potentially be the best backups probably since the 2000 Blazers era.

One other benefit is reduced Blazers salary in 2027/28 since Jrue/Grant would be gone. That might make it possible for us to give Deni a contract extension.
 
What about something like this?

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Bucks get their picks back and Towns/Grant/Robinson. Can shop Towns/Grant for value now or in the summer.
Knicks get Giannis and Jrue
Blazers get Bridges, Portis, Kuzma (possible send elsewhere), and three Knicks unprotected swaps in 2028/2030/2032

Blazers depth chart next season;

Dame Scoot
Sharpe
Bridges Camara
Deni Kuzma
Clingan Portis

We get an elite durable two way wing in Bridges who is younger than Giannis, clear up a lot of salary with Grant/Jrue leaving, don't lose any of our young core. That roster makes more positional sense next season than having Jrue. While likely less valuable than the Bucks picks those three Knicks swaps could be very damn valuable as Giannis/Jrue/Brunson/OG age in the next 6 years. Knicks under Dolan have a lot of history of not being able to avoid the lottery.

(for the 2028 swap from NY; While it is the worst of the NY/Brooklyn pick since the Knicks already gave the Nets a swap - it seems very possible that the Nets will still suck at that time. So that would be a third "unprotected" swap NY could send our way. The 2030/2032 swaps are simple, more valuable with only NY-PDX, as well as when the Knicks players decline more)
Feels like the Bucks would want more, but overall I'm not opposed
 
What about something like this?

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Bucks get their picks back and Towns/Grant/Robinson. Can shop Towns/Grant for value now or in the summer.
Knicks get Giannis and Jrue
Blazers get Bridges, Portis, Kuzma (possible send elsewhere), and three Knicks unprotected swaps in 2028/2030/2032

Blazers depth chart next season;

Dame Scoot
Sharpe
Bridges Camara
Deni Kuzma
Clingan Portis

We get an elite durable two way wing in Bridges who is younger than Giannis, clear up a lot of salary with Grant/Jrue leaving, don't lose any of our young core. That roster makes more positional sense next season than having Jrue. While likely less valuable than the Bucks picks those three Knicks swaps could be very damn valuable as Giannis/Jrue/Brunson/OG age in the next 6 years. Knicks under Dolan have a lot of history of not being able to avoid the lottery.

(for the 2028 swap from NY; While it is the worst of the NY/Brooklyn pick since the Knicks already gave the Nets a swap - it seems very possible that the Nets will still suck at that time. So that would be a third "unprotected" swap NY could send our way. The 2030/2032 swaps are simple, more valuable with only NY-PDX, as well as when the Knicks players decline more)
I dont think Knicks would give up KAT, Mikal, & Robinson? maybe two of them? and them picks?
 
I dont think Knicks would give up KAT, Mikal, & Robinson? maybe two of them? and them picks?
For Giannis? I think they would do it.

If there is any legs to the rumors that the Knicks want to add both Jrue and Giannis they are going to have to send out 3 players since they are so close to the 2nd apron. Remove Robinson and they have to send out Hart. I'd think they would prefer addressing center in a minor deal and Giannis can even play some C especially for small ball periods in the playoffs.
 
What about something like this?

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Bucks get their picks back and Towns/Grant/Robinson. Can shop Towns/Grant for value now or in the summer.
Knicks get Giannis and Jrue
Blazers get Bridges, Portis, Kuzma (possible send elsewhere), and three Knicks unprotected swaps in 2028/2030/2032

Blazers depth chart next season;

Dame Scoot
Sharpe
Bridges Camara
Deni Kuzma
Clingan Portis

We get an elite durable two way wing in Bridges who is younger than Giannis, clear up a lot of salary with Grant/Jrue leaving, don't lose any of our young core. That roster makes more positional sense next season than having Jrue. While likely less valuable than the Bucks picks those three Knicks swaps could be very damn valuable as Giannis/Jrue/Brunson/OG age in the next 6 years. Knicks under Dolan have a lot of history of not being able to avoid the lottery.

(for the 2028 swap from NY; While it is the worst of the NY/Brooklyn pick since the Knicks already gave the Nets a swap - it seems very possible that the Nets will still suck at that time. So that would be a third "unprotected" swap NY could send our way. The 2030/2032 swaps are simple, more valuable with only NY-PDX, as well as when the Knicks players decline more)
This is a great trade for all of these teams. I love the rotation coming out of it. Even this season with Scoot starting and Blake and Vit being in the rotation is pretty exciting.
 

Interesting idea and descriptions from ESPN;

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Any trade sending Antetokounmpo to the Knicks is inherently complicated. The Bucks are reportedly seeking young players and picks in return for their superstar, but the Knicks don't have much of either. New York's top eight scorers are all 25 or older, and the franchise's only tradeable first-round pick is a top-eight-protected selection from the Wizards that is extremely unlikely to convey. (It would turn into second-round picks in 2026 and 2027.)

This framework would check multiple boxes. In addition to sending Antetokounmpo to New York, it would give the Knicks a perfect backcourt complement to Jalen Brunson and reunite Antetokounmpo with Holiday a half-decade after they won a title together in Milwaukee. It would return to the Bucks two of the far-off future picks they sent to Portland (along with Holiday) in the ill-fated Damian Lillard trade, giving them flexibility in the post-Antetokounmpo era. And it would give a major boost to the Trail Blazers' roster as it seeks its first playoff berth since 2020-21. McBride might immediately become the best guard in Portland, and lineups with Bridges, Deni Avdija, Towns and Donovan Clingan could excel on both ends.

Whether that upgrade -- and getting off Grant's contract -- is worth so much extra draft capital could be a sticking point for the Blazers. Milwaukee would also have to decide it would rather receive fewer picks but regain control over its own draft future instead of choosing a return with more of another team's picks. And New York would end up condensing its two major acquisitions from last season (Towns and Bridges) into one bigger star. But this sort of trade structure is necessary to get Antetokounmpo to Madison Square Garden and has at least some appeal to all involved parties. -- Kram

Marks' analysis: This trade is contingent on how much Milwaukee values regaining control of its 2029 and 2030 first-round picks. If those picks are considered critical to the Bucks rebuild, there is a path to a deal. The potential roadblock is the $70 million owed to Grant over the next two seasons and the fact that Milwaukee is not getting back a young player to build around. The trade feels more like Milwaukee cleaning up a mistake it made from the Lillard trade in 2023.
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I feel like the Bucks are going to want a young exciting player. Scoot or Sharpe with Yang could provide that. VJ most certainly provides that. I don't see the NY/GS/etc packages giving them that.

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Seems pretty certain to go nowhere. Hauser is basically the only matching salary possible. We just added a pretty similar player in Vit who's paid a ton less.
Also, Hauser is important to Boston, I'd think moreso than an oft injured backup C. And even in a straight swap, it'd increase Boston's salary by 3 million, which is a lot when they're currently in the tax.
 
Seems pretty certain to go nowhere. Hauser is basically the only matching salary possible. We just added a pretty similar player in Vit who's paid a ton less.
Also, Hauser is important to Boston, I'd think moreso than an oft injured backup C. And even in a straight swap, it'd increase Boston's salary by 3 million, which is a lot when they're currently in the tax.
i'd rather just hang onto rob's bird rights tbh. if they want to be remotely competitive next season, they'll need a big that isn't a project--even if that's only in a load managed capacity.
 
I just read that if the Wolves feel like there is no way for them to aquire Giannis that they may pivot to upgrading the starting gurd spot next to Anthony Edwards. I don't think they'll end up with Giannis so my question is what draft assets would you give to them to make this trade work?
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Grant
Henderson (or Sharpe)
Yang
Trove of MIL picks

For the brothers’ Antetokounmpo
 
I just read that if the Wolves feel like there is no way for them to aquire Giannis that they may pivot to upgrading the starting gurd spot next to Anthony Edwards. I don't think they'll end up with Giannis so my question is what draft assets would you give to them to make this trade work?
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If the Wolves are brining in Holiday it would be to win now in which case it doesn't make sense for them to send out McDaniels.

If the Wolves had picks or something I might be interesting in getting those instead of McDaniels but just don't see how a trade can make sense here. Also the Blazers appear more interested in winning now than I would be, unless the recent losing streak has changed some of that calculus.

But overall I do like the idea of exploring Grant/Jrue/Timelord trades.
 
Here's an original idea;

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Would the Kings do it? I would think not but their high on the other Murray, rumored to have interest in Jrue, and with crazy Vivek we have no idea what unpredictable direction their going to spontaneously go. It's for sure worth making the offer.

Fun lineups this season and next. Remember Dame and DeRozen used to train together a lot and always were interested in playing together.

Dame Scoot
Sharpe Vet
Camara
Deni DeRozan
Sabonis Clingan
 

Interesting idea and descriptions from ESPN;

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"
Any trade sending Antetokounmpo to the Knicks is inherently complicated. The Bucks are reportedly seeking young players and picks in return for their superstar, but the Knicks don't have much of either. New York's top eight scorers are all 25 or older, and the franchise's only tradeable first-round pick is a top-eight-protected selection from the Wizards that is extremely unlikely to convey. (It would turn into second-round picks in 2026 and 2027.)

This framework would check multiple boxes. In addition to sending Antetokounmpo to New York, it would give the Knicks a perfect backcourt complement to Jalen Brunson and reunite Antetokounmpo with Holiday a half-decade after they won a title together in Milwaukee. It would return to the Bucks two of the far-off future picks they sent to Portland (along with Holiday) in the ill-fated Damian Lillard trade, giving them flexibility in the post-Antetokounmpo era. And it would give a major boost to the Trail Blazers' roster as it seeks its first playoff berth since 2020-21. McBride might immediately become the best guard in Portland, and lineups with Bridges, Deni Avdija, Towns and Donovan Clingan could excel on both ends.

Whether that upgrade -- and getting off Grant's contract -- is worth so much extra draft capital could be a sticking point for the Blazers. Milwaukee would also have to decide it would rather receive fewer picks but regain control over its own draft future instead of choosing a return with more of another team's picks. And New York would end up condensing its two major acquisitions from last season (Towns and Bridges) into one bigger star. But this sort of trade structure is necessary to get Antetokounmpo to Madison Square Garden and has at least some appeal to all involved parties. -- Kram

Marks' analysis: This trade is contingent on how much Milwaukee values regaining control of its 2029 and 2030 first-round picks. If those picks are considered critical to the Bucks rebuild, there is a path to a deal. The potential roadblock is the $70 million owed to Grant over the next two seasons and the fact that Milwaukee is not getting back a young player to build around. The trade feels more like Milwaukee cleaning up a mistake it made from the Lillard trade in 2023.
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Towns, McBride, and Bridges without giving up core? If we can’t get Giannis, I’m in. That def makes us a better team.
 
This trade is so good that I have to put it over here too. We got too many PGs and MN has almost none.
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Harden is so weird. His current team is on a serious run and he asks out.

This tweet makes me wonder what the Cavs are sending back to the Clippers. If it's Garland (there salaries match) I wonder what draft assets are going to Cleveland with Harden.
 

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