Bogus! We are quietly doing Philly's lame "process"

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HailBlazers said:
Dame took 4 years of College. And SGA did. Plus we might land J-dubs brother.
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For sure. But I haven't seen the eye of the tiger required to be a top 15 player in any of our guys. Except maybe Scoot. And he may get there

*Let me be clear. I'm not giving up on these guys. They aren't getting what they deserve from the coaches either. And not that I don't think Chauncy is trying. He's just not very good.
 
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Chris Craig said:
Didn't work out so well for Philly
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Philly is a legit contender with Embiid back now. He’s only now getting to play with the players they acquired in trade. They’ve played at 64 win pace when he plays.
 
BonesJones said:
What was Joe's plan exactly? To draft a 6'3 PG and do nothing in the trade or free agency market, hoping Dame would be okay with it? Hahaha
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Bucks lost to the Raptors. Be a good Blazer fan and throw shade at Lillard's team. Then ignore the Bucks when they play well.

Milwaukee is a luxury tax team. Jody Allen makes straight cash from TV revenue sharing. That means when Milwaukee loses a game on national TV, and Lillard has an off shooting night, a good portion of that money the Bucks made from Lillard's loss goes straight into Jody Allen's wallet.

That alone should make every Blazer fan excited. Cronin is a genious, and the Blazers owner is filthy rich! Where can i buy a Bert Kolde jersey ??
 
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Chris Craig said:
Didn't work out so well for Philly
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It’s not that it didn’t work out, it’s more based on who they drafted that didn’t pan out.

Embiid is the second best big man in the NBA today behind Joker.

Simmons was good for a few seasons then fizzled out (remember when so many in here wanted Simmons for Dame lmao)

And then Markelle Fultz ended up being a complete bust for them in the 2017 draft as the #1 pick, when they passed on guys like Tatum, Lonzo Ball, and De’Aaron Fox.

If they drafted Tatum let’s say instead, you wouldn’t be saying it didn’t work out for them.

They had 3 chances to nab a superstar, and they only got one correct in Embiid.

I wouldn’t say it didn’t work out, more the way they drafted.
 
KingSpeed said:
People didn’t know SGA would be THIS good. Patience.
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I'm one of the most passive NBA fans who barely watches the product at all and years ago it was blatantly obvious SGA was gonna be this good. And I was on the books saying this BEFORE the trade happened.
 
sheed30 said:
It’s not that it didn’t work out, it’s more based on who they drafted that didn’t pan out.

Embiid is the second best big man in the NBA today behind Joker.

Simmons was good for a few seasons then fizzled out (remember when so many in here wanted Simmons for Dame lmao)

And then Markelle Fultz ended up being a complete bust for them in the 2017 draft as the #1 pick, when they passed on guys like Tatum, Lonzo Ball, and De’Aaron Fox.

If they drafted Tatum let’s say instead, you wouldn’t be saying it didn’t work out for them.

They had 3 chances to nab a superstar, and they only got one correct in Embiid.

I wouldn’t say it didn’t work out, more the way they drafted.
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Well hopefully the Blazers draft the right guys.
 
wizenheimer said:
let's see now...yep, that's the definition of rescind
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How so. He still wanted to be traded. He didn't rescind anything. I think he just realized the Blazers were going to send him elsewhere and tried to control the situation. But, he still wanted to be traded. He was never going to stay.
 
Chris Craig said:
How so. He still wanted to be traded. He didn't rescind anything. I think he just realized the Blazers were going to send him elsewhere and tried to control the situation. But, he still wanted to be traded. He was never going to stay.
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Completely agree.
Given the circumstances by mid-August, trade was the only real option
 
Chris Craig said:
How so. He still wanted to be traded. He didn't rescind anything. I think he just realized the Blazers were going to send him elsewhere and tried to control the situation. But, he still wanted to be traded. He was never going to stay.
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rescind: he asked to be traded; he wanted Miami; he realized that was not going to happen; he then asked to remain in Portland

CJ_is_Gone said:
Completely agree.
Given the circumstances by mid-August, trade was the only real option
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and I said the bridges had been burnt by then. Realizing Miami wasn't going to happen, he asked to remain in Portland but it was too late. If the Bridge wasn't burnt there was too much water that had passed under

besides that, it's pretty clear, to me at least, that trading Dame is what Cronin had wanted to do for quite a while
 
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wizenheimer said:
rescind: he asked to be traded; he wanted Miami; he realized that was not going to happen; he then asked to remain in Portland



and I said the bridges had been burnt by then. Realizing Miami wasn't going to happen, he asked to remain in Portland but it was too late. If the Bridge wasn't burnt there was too much water that had passed under

besides that, it's pretty clear, to me at least, that trading Dame is what Cronin had wanted to do for quite a while
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He asked to remain in Portland while they figured out how to get him to Miami. Not to completely take away his trade request and stay here for good.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
Completely agree.
Given the circumstances by mid-August, trade was the only real option
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Jody made that pretty clear. Dame wasn't coming back. She was tired of being held accountable by somebody with more power in the league than herself.
 
wizenheimer said:
rescind: he asked to be traded; he wanted Miami; he realized that was not going to happen; he then asked to remain in Portland



and I said the bridges had been burnt by then. Realizing Miami wasn't going to happen, he asked to remain in Portland but it was too late. If the Bridge wasn't burnt there was too much water that had passed under

besides that, it's pretty clear, to me at least, that trading Dame is what Cronin had wanted to do for quite a while
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I feel like Dame making public demands was too much for Cronin to handle. He couldn't get good deals with Dame publicly holding him accountable.

I'm not sure if anybody could have gotten Dame what he wanted in that situation. But yeah. After a year or two of dealing with that I can see why Cronin would want Dame gone.
 
Strenuus said:
I'm one of the most passive NBA fans who barely watches the product at all and years ago it was blatantly obvious SGA was gonna be this good. And I was on the books saying this BEFORE the trade happened.
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If it was obvious SGA was going to be first team All NBA, then why did the Clips trade him? I remember people saying the Clippers got Paul George without giving anybody up, meaning they still had Trez and Lou. People knew SGA would be good but not this good. Show be your post where you said SGA would be the best guard in the league.
 
KingSpeed said:
If it was obvious SGA was going to be first team All NBA, then why did the Clips trade him? I remember people saying the Clippers got Paul George without giving anybody up, meaning they still had Trez and Lou. People knew SGA would be good but not this good. Show be your post where you said SGA would be the best guard in the league.
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Because they are the clippers.

It was obvious SGA was gonna be a superstar. And im a very average fan.
 
KingSpeed said:
If it was obvious SGA was going to be first team All NBA, then why did the Clips trade him? I remember people saying the Clippers got Paul George without giving anybody up, meaning they still had Trez and Lou. People knew SGA would be good but not this good. Show be your post where you said SGA would be the best guard in the league.
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Who did the Blazers get in the Dame trade that has the upside of SGA?
 
KingSpeed said:
If it was obvious SGA was going to be first team All NBA, then why did the Clips trade him? I remember people saying the Clippers got Paul George without giving anybody up, meaning they still had Trez and Lou. People knew SGA would be good but not this good. Show be your post where you said SGA would be the best guard in the league.
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To get Kawhi...
 
To be fair, while the process hasn't worked for Philly, they got an MVP out of it. They had a team that SHOULD have been a legit contender when they had Butler. They never should have let him walk.
 
Natebishop3 said:
To be fair, while the process hasn't worked for Philly, they got an MVP out of it. They had a team that SHOULD have been a legit contender when they had Butler. They never should have let him walk.
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Embiid would have to stay healthy and put that team totally on his back to win the finals.
 
Chris Craig said:
Embiid would have to stay healthy and put that team totally on his back to win the finals.
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It's really difficult to criticize a "process" that at least put them in a position to contend if they're healthy. When have we had that?
 
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