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Mediocre Man said:
Toronto asking for pick + for Siakam. OG hasn’t been talked about
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So when you say "pick+" .......what does the + mean?
That could mean a lot of things. Pick + matching salaries? Or the pic, a shitload of additional picks and matching salaries.

Matching salaries could be Ant and Nurk or Ant, Little, and Keon
At first glance that is a lot, but it also removes some bad contracts. I am not giving them any additional picks other than #3 but I would consider the other options if Siakam agrees to an extension. But then again I love his game:

https://www.google.com/search?q=sialam higligts&oq=sialam higligts&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i13i512.5271j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:8536f57b,vid:5sVD6cybIdg
 
Pinwheel1 said:
So when you say "pick+" .......what does the + mean?
That could mean a lot of things. Pick + matching salaries? Or the pic, a shitload of additional picks and matching salaries.

Matching salaries could be Ant and Nurk or Ant, Little, and Keon
At first glance that is a lot, but it also removes some bad contracts. I am not giving them any additional picks other than #3 but I would consider the other options if Siakam agrees to an extension. But then again I love his game:

https://www.google.com/search?q=sialam higligts&oq=sialam higligts&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i13i512.5271j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:8536f57b,vid:5sVD6cybIdg
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I’m no insider. I had lunch with someone and they casually shared things
 
Mediocre Man said:
Whispers that Charlotte will move back in the draft to 4

Portland has had some underwhelming offers for both 3 and our other assets…including Dame

Portland DOES NOT want to use the pick, and teams know it

In talks with Chicago to remove future pick obligations. No idea how it’s going

Toronto asking for pick + for Siakam. OG hasn’t been talked about

Blazers have reached out to Brooklyn, but thus far have been turned down

Sharpe has so far been a non starter in talks
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The best thing about this post is the last thing you said.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Given Smith and Eason in last year's draft, I have to assume that if Houston moves up to 2, it's for Scoot.
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Arguably their best player last season was 22 year old PG Kevin Porter who took major strides forward. I doubt replacing him is high on their to do list but maybe they view Scoot as a significant enough upgrade to warrant it. If I'm them though, I probably stand pat and select a Thompson or Black and let my very young roster gain more experience together.

STOMP
 
HailBlazers said:
2023 Extended Mock Draft 5.1

Its tough to see all this height and length, meanwhile drafting a 6'2 guard.
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that's assuming he's actually 6'2 since he didn't do the combine

hard to justify drafting Scoot with both Dame & Ant on the roster. But then I think it's become harder and harder to justify Ant on the roster, not at 26M/year for a defensive sieve
 
andalusian said:
Only thing it means is that Chicago are very unlikely to be willing to trade Caruso... unless it brings them another PG.

If anything, if Scoot is available at #3, maybe Chicago is super interested in trading with Portland.
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Bulls don't have anything of equitable value to trade for the 3rd pick. They don't have a unencumbered 1st till 2029. Patrick Williams is young and promising but so far he's very one-dimensional. They could give back Portland's 1st round obligations but that's not a lot of generic value. They have nothing else anywhere close to the value needed
 
wizenheimer said:
that's assuming he's actually 6'2 since he didn't do the combine

hard to justify drafting Scoot with both Dame & Ant on the roster. But then I think it's become harder and harder to justify Ant on the roster, not at 26M/year for a defensive sieve
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He doesn't make 26M/year.
 
I think the only way Portland would keep the pick is if Miller falls to 3, and at the workout just blows them away with his skillset and attitude. And they are 100% sure the authorities will not pursue him as an accessory to the crime. Siakam, as long as he agrees to an extension, would be a fantastic addition to the team. The # 3 plus Ant/Nas seems fair for a All NBA talent.
 
wizenheimer said:
Bulls don't have anything of equitable value to trade for the 3rd pick. They don't have a unencumbered 1st till 2029. Patrick Williams is young and promising but so far he's very one-dimensional. They could give back Portland's 1st round obligations but that's not a lot of generic value. They have nothing else anywhere close to the value needed
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I would imagine that if they go this way, it means they break the DDR + ZL duo and restarting. So, assume they flip ZL somewhere for some picks and other capital and later do something like Demar + Caruso + future picks + pick forgiveness for Ant, Nurk, #3

The Blazers kick the pick down the road, get a backup PG, a Vet and have pick capital for additional trades.

Not saying this is great, but it is certainly one route that can happen. Of course, it will require a 3rd team and ZL - but you get the idea.
 
andalusian said:
I would imagine that if they go this way, it means they break the DDR + ZL duo and restarting. So, assume they flip ZL somewhere for some picks and other capital and later do something like Demar + Caruso + future picks + pick forgiveness for Ant, Nurk, #3

The Blazers kick the pick down the road, get a backup PG, a Vet and have pick capital for additional trades.

Not saying this is great, but it is certainly one route that can happen. Of course, it will require a 3rd team and ZL - but you get the idea.
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Not enough for the #3. It's got to be Siakam or Bridges for the #3. Or you stay with Miller if he's avail. I like DeRozan, but not for the #3.
 
tykendo said:
Not enough for the #3. It's got to be Siakam or Bridges for the #3. Or you stay with Miller if he's avail. I like DeRozan, but not for the #3.
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Depends on what that future pick is, but generally, without knowing what it is, I would agree. But you are certainly missing a major portion of that thing. Again, it was not a real trade suggestion, just a point that Lonzo being done might cause Chicago to reboot which makes them a potential suitor for the #3 pick.
 
wizenheimer said:
that's assuming he's actually 6'2 since he didn't do the combine

hard to justify drafting Scoot with both Dame & Ant on the roster. But then I think it's become harder and harder to justify Ant on the roster, not at 26M/year for a defensive sieve
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I find it a little humorous that he is listed as 6'4" on a couple of websites. No way
 
BigGameDamian said:
It’s early folks. One of these 3 teams will cave. Joe just has to stick to his guns! Then could we do Nurkic +23 and maybe Keon or Knox for Ayton?
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you've been on the Ayton-->Portland crusade for a long time. I hated it the first time I saw it....still do. And I don't think the Vulcans would sign off of paying two non-all-stars like Grant/Ayton 65-70M year. And Cronin hopefully sees it's not a good idea. I think there are only about 4 C's in the league worth more than 25M/year and Ayton isn't one of them

besides all that, there too wide a gulf in salaries. Nurkic + Little + Keon is still 2.7M short of passing CBA muster. It would have to be done in the off-season. Which would be good because the Blazers wouldn't be giving Phoenix that 23rd pick too. That's an overpay for Ayton's bloated salary
 
wizenheimer said:
you've been on the Ayton-->Portland crusade for a long time. I hated it the first time I saw it....still do. And I don't think the Vulcans would sign off of paying two non-all-stars like Grant/Ayton 65-70M year. And Cronin hopefully sees it's not a good idea. I think there are only about 4 C's in the league worth more than 25M/year and Ayton isn't one of them

besides all that, there too wide a gulf in salaries. Nurkic + Little + Keon is still 2.7M short of passing CBA muster. It would have to be done in the off-season. Which would be good because the Blazers wouldn't be giving Phoenix that 23rd pick too. That's an overpay for Ayton's bloated salary
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I get what you're saying, and agree on the salary vs. performance inconsistency & poutiness. But as a potential second big talent acquired after one of the Big 3, i think Ayton, in a new place, could be pretty awesome. Maybe he just needs a new start. Just saying.
 
tykendo said:
I get what you're saying, and agree on the salary vs. performance inconsistency & poutiness. But as a potential second big talent acquired after one of the Big 3, i think Ayton, in a new place, could be pretty awesome. Maybe he just needs a new start. Just saying.
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I just happen to think C's have become the least impactful position on an NBA floor. Yes, if you have a Jokic or Embiid, there massive impact. But there are only two guys like that...them

there are only 2 other C's I find worth much money: Sabonis who led the Kings to a 1st round exit; and Adebayo who may be helping leading the Heat to playoff infamy.

I'd vote center by committee out of the bargain bin
 
wizenheimer said:
I just happen to think C's have become the least impactful position on an NBA floor. Yes, if you have a Jokic or Embiid, there massive impact. But there are only two guys like that...them

there are only 2 other C's I find worth much money: Sabonis who led the Kings to a 1st round exit; and Adebayo who may be helping leading the Heat to playoff infamy.

I'd vote center by committee out of the bargain bin
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Or can Nurk just find the passion to bring it every game. Pleaseeee.
 
tykendo said:
Or can Nurk just find the passion to bring it every game. Pleaseeee.
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he's be 29 entering his 10 season next year. If he hasn't been able to consistently maintain passion for 9 years it's unlikely he'll regain it in his 10th. I think his passion went the same direction as his lift after the accumulated injuries. Speaking of injuries, when will be his next?
 
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wizenheimer said:
he's be 29 entering his 10 season next year. If he hasn't been able to consistently maintain passion for 9 years it's unlikely he'll regain it in his 10th. I think his passion went the same direction as his lift after the accumulated injuries. Speaking of injuries, when will be his next?
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Hopefully never. Just want to see him play with the passion he had in the Euros. Really like Nurk. Want him to succeed. I think we all do.
 
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