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Mr. Robot said:
im really excited to see how we fuck this up

were used to making franchise altering wrong moves, this could be another one (probably not to the same extent, but still)
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So this should make you happy. You've never wanted anything good for the blazers.
 
My last post for the night unless something breaks in the next 30 or so but I made a prediction earlier in the day that today not much would happen accept maybe we would get a clearer picture on who the Hornets were leaning towards. Looking like I was right but IF i am being honest I have seen enough of this to kind of know how this dance goes and it is a dance in some ways. Now that I got this part right the next part is the important part as I said I thought about 24 hours out we would have a clearer picture of who might be legit offers on the table and maybe even a juicy rumor with some legs to it. I really hope I am right cause the silence is deafening and listening / reading all the BS on various sites , tweets etc is getting tiresome.
 
blazerfan11 said:
The Blazers lacked talent at every position off the bench last season.
One way the team could get significantly better is to put together a much better bench.
Scoot and Sharpe (or Simons) could be key parts of a much better bench.
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If I take Scoot Henderson I don't want to play him off the bench... not even in season one. That dude is a little monster. We can (even though we haven't) get bench pieces. You don't spend the third pick on a bench piece in my opinion. That's gotta be a starter... for me. I get wanting a bench. We did have bench talent at SG/SF last season and that same dude is a restricted free agent that's one out of four pieces we need filled.
 
If Zion really is available, are there any other teams that might want him?
Maybe Houston?

Pels
Zion -> 3 (Scoot)

Rockets
4 + Brooklyn's '24 & '26 picks + Eason -> Zion (into cap space)

Nets
Bridges + DFS -> Ant + Little + Brooklyn's '24 & '26 picks

Portland
Ant + Little + 3 -> Bridges + DFS + Eason (into TPE) + 4 (Amen)

Is that being too gready?
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
If Zion really is available, are there any other teams that might want him?
Maybe Houston?

Pels
Zion -> 3 (Scoot)

Rockets
4 + Brooklyn's '24 & '26 picks + Eason -> Zion (into cap space)

Nets
Bridges + DFS -> Ant + Little + Brooklyn's '24 & '26 picks

Portland
Ant + Little + 3 -> Bridges + DFS + Eason (into TPE) + 4 (Amen)

Is that being too gready?
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It's asking a lot and it sure makes us very forward heavy. I get it that you probably see Amen as a big PG in all of this.
 
blazerkor said:
It's asking a lot and it sure makes us very forward heavy. I get it that you probably see Amen as a big PG in all of this.
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Yes, Amen as a PG.

Maybe pull out DFS & Little & ask for 22 back from Nets?
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
Yes, Amen as a PG.

Maybe pull out DFS & Little & ask for 22 back from Nets?
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If you can grab Bridges and Eason and still come out with picks 4, 22 and 23 that would be pretty impressive. I still want to roll the dice with Zion and think it's more realistic but I do like your trade idea.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
If Zion really is available, are there any other teams that might want him?
Maybe Houston?

Pels
Zion -> 3 (Scoot)

Rockets
4 + Brooklyn's '24 & '26 picks + Eason -> Zion (into cap space)

Nets
Bridges + DFS -> Ant + Little + Brooklyn's '24 & '26 picks

Portland
Ant + Little + 3 -> Bridges + DFS + Eason (into TPE) + 4 (Amen)

Is that being too gready?
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That's greedy as that porky kid in Charlie in the Chocolate Factory. Nets would want Amen. They hired his coach. I like this framework a lot but Nets would want the 4 (and I think that's an overpay). How we trade Ant and Nas to Orlando for #11 first and then use the exception to take back Bridges?
 
I think there are now three roads of possibilities our team can go down. Two of them involve our front office just loving Scoot so much (most likely too much but time will tell) that they can't let him go and the other is moving him for the best package that includes a second all star/superstar possible.

So we could just love Scoot so much that we youth rebuild around the back court of Scoot and Shaedon.

We could love both Scoot and Dame so much that we try to make a roster work built around a three guard rotation (four if we're dumb enough to keep Ant too). [I honestly don't know if Dame will allow the Dame, Scoot, Shaedon option be an option because taking the most valuable asset we have had in Dame's career and just trying to fit it in at guard with him and Shae would probably be what Dame was talking about when he said if the team goes young he's going to have that other convo with them.]

So I could see a youth rebuild being a viable option but I'm really hoping we maximize the Scoot hype in a trade for proven commodities who address our biggest roster needs.
 
blazerkor said:
So I could see a youth rebuild being a viable option but I'm really hoping we maximize the Scoot hype in a trade for proven commodities who address our biggest roster needs.
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Defense across the board.
Size.
Playoff experience.
Depth.

There's no way that we can get our biggest roster needs by trading Scoot, and moving the tradable players we have (Ant, Nurk) will be undercutting our depth (and size) issues.

Yes, if we can upgrade the entire roster around Dame then I guess trading Scoot makes sense, but since that's ridiculous, I think trading Scoot would be, too :)
 
Ed O said:
Defense across the board.
Size.
Playoff experience.
Depth.

There's no way that we can get our biggest roster needs by trading Scoot, and moving the tradable players we have (Ant, Nurk) will be undercutting our depth (and size) issues.

Yes, if we can upgrade the entire roster around Dame then I guess trading Scoot makes sense, but since that's ridiculous, I think trading Scoot would be, too :)
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I don't think it's ridiculous. We can't let NOLA have the value of Scoot and Ant for Zion. They can have Scoots value and then we need a way to reroute Ant to get his value from another source or recoup it from NOLA directly.

The way I see it is that I want Ant, Nurk and pick 3 going out. I want a role playing mobile defense first starting C and Zion in return for that outgoing package. We then would have a championship level starting lineup Dame, Shaedon, Jerami, Zion, New C.

We would also have a bench that already has Nas and Matisse on it because we own him via RFA... that really covers the wing nicely. We would need to get a backup PF/C with pick 23 or by using pick 23 and one of our TPEs... I really like Trayce Jackson-Davis he rebounds, blocks shots and scores really efficiently and moves really really well. Then we use the TPMLE on a backup PG like Javon Carter and we have a pretty fucking good bench rotation. If any of the guys like Mays, Keon, Trendon, Jabari or pick 43 pop then we're even deeper but Denver just won a championship playing three players off the bench and two of them were only averaging 15 minutes per game in the playoffs.

I just don't think it's ridiculous to upgrade our areas of need and have found your approach to this entire off season so lacking in imagination and frankly disingenuous when you say shit like "entire roster" when we most likely have Jerami, we have Shae, we control Matisse and these are really good and reliable guys, Nas has lacked durability but when he is healthy he's a very good rotational piece as well. So we just see this thing very differently.
 
blazerkor said:
I don't think it's ridiculous. We can't let NOLA have the value of Scoot and Ant for Zion. They can have Scoots value and then we need a way to reroute Ant to get his value from another source or recoup it from NOLA directly.

The way I see it is that I want Ant, Nurk and pick 3 going out. I want a role playing mobile defense first starting C and Zion in return for that outgoing package. We then would have a championship level starting lineup Dame, Shaedon, Jerami, Zion, New C.

We would also have a bench that already has Nas and Matisse on it because we own him via RFA... that really covers the wing nicely. We would need to get a backup PF/C with pick 23 or by using pick 23 and one of our TPEs... I really like Trayce Jackson-Davis he rebounds, blocks shots and scores really efficiently and moves really really well. Then we use the TPMLE on a backup PG like Javon Carter and we have a pretty fucking good bench rotation. If any of the guys like Mays, Keon, Trendon, Jabari or pick 43 pop then we're even deeper but Denver just won a championship playing three players off the bench and two of them were only averaging 15 minutes per game in the playoffs.

I just don't think it's ridiculous to upgrade our areas of need and have found your approach to this entire off season so lacking in imagination and frankly disingenuous when you say shit like "entire roster" when we most likely have Jerami, we have Shae, we control Matisse and these are really good and reliable guys, Nas has lacked durability but when he is healthy he's a very good rotational piece as well. So we just see this thing very differently.
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We are losing two of our top seven or eight guys in Ant and Nurk, and we are giving up a likely rotation guy in Scoot for... one player? Two?

And then we'll be fine because we have Thybulle and Little? And that depth doesn't really matter because... Denver? Even healthy, that's a terrible defensive team, and when has Zion ever been healthy?

Sorry, but that is ridiculous. Even your desired scenario doesn't give us a good team.

I'm not being disingenuous... I'm being realistic. I know that some of you told us to wait for a big deal a few times in the past, but I didn't believe it then and I didn't believe it now. I know that some here would have been happy to give up Sharpe for OG (and filler? Maybe Ant?) last draft, but I thought it was a bad idea and it obviously proved to be a bad idea. It's not disingenuous for me to apply the same logic and assessment that I have the last couple of years as the team has floundered in spite of all the calls by some of you to wait because Cronin says he's not done yet.
 
blazerkor said:
This is sleazy bullshit Youtube. Zion isn't the first pro athlete to have relations with a bunch of different women including porn stars. People need to get the fuck over this... it will blow over. This isn't Miles Bridges assaulting a woman it's a young superstar who just needs to pump his breaks. A change of scenery and a child really might do Zion a lot of good in his personal life which is none of our fucking business.
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Ah yes, a change of scenery to one of the highest strip club per capita.
 
So, Hornets have a choice between Scoot, Miller, and Zion. . And they choose Miller? Hmmm. .

What incentive do they have to leak out false info about them drafting Miller. Can someone think of a reason as to why? What benefit is it to them if they mislead the Blazers?
 
blazerkor said:
This is sleazy bullshit Youtube. Zion isn't the first pro athlete to have relations with a bunch of different women including porn stars. People need to get the fuck over this... it will blow over. This isn't Miles Bridges assaulting a woman it's a young superstar who just needs to pump his breaks. A change of scenery and a child really might do Zion a lot of good in his personal life which is none of our fucking business.
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This doesn't concern me one bit. There's also tons of reports of how philanthropic he's been in the NO community. Also doesn't matter to me.

What does is his inability to maintain his conditioning even after reports of there being clauses his his max contract about weight issues. Also worrisome to me is NO wanting to cut bait right before his contract begins.
 
illmatic99 said:
This doesn't concern me one bit. There's also tons of reports of how philanthropic he's been in the NO community. Also doesn't matter to me.

What does is his inability to maintain his conditioning even after reports of there being clauses his his max contract about weight issues. Also worrisome to me is NO wanting to cut bait right before his contract begins.
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There has been news in the past he did not want to be in New Orleans. Maybe he is pulling a Ben Simmons or James Harden. "I don't wanna play until I feel like Zion." to escape NOLA. Before any trade, he needs to OK going to Portland and obviously check and recheck his medicals.
 
inconceivable said:
There has been news in the past he did not want to be in New Orleans. Maybe he is pulling a Ben Simmons or James Harden. "I don't wanna play until I feel like Zion." to escape NOLA. Before any trade, he needs to OK going to Portland and obviously check and recheck his medicals.
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I mean it is pretty crazy hes been training here.
 
illmatic99 said:
the one monkeywrench in this plan is Charlotte effectively picking Miller over Zion. What's stopping them from realizing Zion is available, and just completing that move to allow the Pels to grab Scoot at 2?
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Because they want Miller.
 
HailBlazers said:
I mean it is pretty crazy hes been training here.
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Then he should have a pretty good idea about living here. That could still be a positive or a negative, but that would take some guess work out of figuring out if he would leave town the first chance he had.
 
Bingo Bango said:
Lillard is one of the best “character” guys in the league—universally admired for the way he conducts himself, and for his strong family values. Why would we want to pair him with a sex addict who is fucking three pornstars at the same time, and has gotten one of them pregnant?
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I think he got two of them pregnant.
 
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