We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities. (2 Viewers)

[blazerkor]

I think if we pick Scoot, Dame is gone. I think he calls up Joe and says, "please trade me."

I thought a case could be made if it was Miller that we could sell Dame on plugging him into the starting lineup. But Scoot..... I just don't see it.

Still pulling for that Zion trade though and still think it makes a lot of sense for the team as far as marketing and competition go. I think season ticket holders would be cautiously very excited about the Dame/Zion pairing especially if the supporting cast had some new names too. That being said, Joe's history has been to punt every time and while he's been saying he wants to keep Dame and build around him all of his actions besides Jerami have strongly indicated a youth rebuild.

 

[Ripcity4life77]

Nate again we do not agree on much but that was my thought too -- It's not that I do not like Scoot but Scoot along side of Dame just makes no sense and even to make it work we have to rely on Cronin to totally reshape the roster to try to make it work. I still think in the end trade wise it comes down to 2 players - -Brown and Zion and I think now that it looks like Scoot will be there it might be easier to talk to Boston and maybe the Pels about such a deal. I think before trying to get Brown or Zion without knowing Scoot would be there was just too hard . I really believe by Noon tomorrow we will have a pretty good idea what's happening with pick 3 -- I think trade chatter by then will pick up and either the Blazers will say ENOUGH of these crap ass offers and say were keeping the pick or teams will finally start being real and something gets done before the draft starts even if not officially announced.

If I were to bet on it RIGHT now knowing nothing more my gut tells me this or could be heartburn too

Blazers ..... Trade the 3rd pick for either Brown or Zion -- I do think we might hear the Blazers make one final offer to the Net's but will get turned down fact is I think we might hear something like that before end of tonight.

 

[Natebishop3]

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/n...ine-kyle-kuzma-fred-vanvleet-free-agency-2023

Pascal Siakam
Speaking of All-Stars, Siakam was heavily discussed with the Blazers in talks for the No.3 pick.

Yahoo’s Jake Fischer reported Tuesday that the Blazers were not interested in either Siakam or OG Anunoby.

Some further context on that is interesting, however. Before I share that, a reminder that everyone is constantly spinning this time of year, and the truth is often a little obscured if not caked completely in mud.

With that said, there are two competing narratives on the talks. Portland has projected that they were unsure about paying Siakam a new max contract. League sources, on the other hand, have suggested that Siakam was unwilling to provide assurances he would re-sign next summer.

Regardless, with the Blazers off the table, there have been no other serious talks with the Raptors (that I’ve heard about, I’m sure there have been some). There’s a belief that the Raptors will run it back yet again. Those things can change quickly, but that’s where I believe we’re at right now.

 

[B-Roy]

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/n...ine-kyle-kuzma-fred-vanvleet-free-agency-2023

Pascal Siakam
Speaking of All-Stars, Siakam was heavily discussed with the Blazers in talks for the No.3 pick.

Yahoo’s Jake Fischer reported Tuesday that the Blazers were not interested in either Siakam or OG Anunoby.

Some further context on that is interesting, however. Before I share that, a reminder that everyone is constantly spinning this time of year, and the truth is often a little obscured if not caked completely in mud.

With that said, there are two competing narratives on the talks. Portland has projected that they were unsure about paying Siakam a new max contract. League sources, on the other hand, have suggested that Siakam was unwilling to provide assurances he would re-sign next summer.

Regardless, with the Blazers off the table, there have been no other serious talks with the Raptors (that I’ve heard about, I’m sure there have been some). There’s a belief that the Raptors will run it back yet again. Those things can change quickly, but that’s where I believe we’re at right now.

I agree. Tying 120M to Dame, Siakam and Grant is a recipe for disaster.

 

[Natebishop3]

I agree. Tying 120M to Dame, Siakam and Grant is a recipe for disaster.

If he won't commit to re-signing, there's no way we can trade for him. Definitely not the 3rd pick.

 

[blazerkor]

Nate again we do not agree on much but that was my thought too -- It's not that I do not like Scoot but Scoot along side of Dame just makes no sense and even to make it work we have to rely on Cronin to totally reshape the roster to try to make it work. I still think in the end trade wise it comes down to 2 players - -Brown and Zion and I think now that it looks like Scoot will be there it might be easier to talk to Boston and maybe the Pels about such a deal. I think before trying to get Brown or Zion without knowing Scoot would be there was just too hard . I really believe by Noon tomorrow we will have a pretty good idea what's happening with pick 3 -- I think trade chatter by then will pick up and either the Blazers will say ENOUGH of these crap ass offers and say were keeping the pick or teams will finally start being real and something gets done before the draft starts even if not officially announced.

If I were to bet on it RIGHT now knowing nothing more my gut tells me this or could be heartburn too

Blazers ..... Trade the 3rd pick for either Brown or Zion -- I do think we might hear the Blazers make one final offer to the Net's but will get turned down fact is I think we might hear something like that before end of tonight.

Yeah Dame/Scoot makes the least sense of all of the bad "less than the sum of their parts" back courts that we've rolled out since Wes left. I don't see that happening. Dame's latest quote being so vague, "They should do what's best for the team." Either tells me that Dame is done with the team or the team told him they were in some high stakes negotiations and he needs to tone down the rhetoric for the next day and a half. Just wait and see but my gut is telling me the same thing yours is. I just see it as being way way more likely that it's Zion. I'd love Jaylen but I think the Celtics will keep him now that they can offer him way way more money than any other team can.

 

[wizenheimer]

Because at 22 you just had this much insight without the full use of your prefontal cortex, got it.

I wonder what would happen if you entered "prefontal cortex" into the search bar on Pornhub....?

 

[blazerkor]

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/n...ine-kyle-kuzma-fred-vanvleet-free-agency-2023

Pascal Siakam
Speaking of All-Stars, Siakam was heavily discussed with the Blazers in talks for the No.3 pick.

Yahoo’s Jake Fischer reported Tuesday that the Blazers were not interested in either Siakam or OG Anunoby.

Some further context on that is interesting, however. Before I share that, a reminder that everyone is constantly spinning this time of year, and the truth is often a little obscured if not caked completely in mud.

With that said, there are two competing narratives on the talks. Portland has projected that they were unsure about paying Siakam a new max contract. League sources, on the other hand, have suggested that Siakam was unwilling to provide assurances he would re-sign next summer.

Regardless, with the Blazers off the table, there have been no other serious talks with the Raptors (that I’ve heard about, I’m sure there have been some). There’s a belief that the Raptors will run it back yet again. Those things can change quickly, but that’s where I believe we’re at right now.

To me all that this really says is what I've felt for a while, which is due to his contract situation and having to deal with Masai, Siakam was never a viable option.

 

[illmatic99]

Regarding Zion:

Lowe says he's heard everything about Zion not being traded and the Blazers using the pick as not a posturing stance but...

It's the one thing with the most smoke that he could actually see happening on draft night,

This is circuitous as hell

 

[glazeduck]

Oh they can call in any trade on draft day that needs to be completed on the new league year that's been the case for years. On draft day and basically after the end of the season the league gives the teams a choice when they call in a trade to use next season's cap numbers or the current cap numbers. So we could definitely make the trade and it would be reported. Our GM would have to do the whole song and dance of us discussing it next week when we can and everything but that how it's been done a bunch of times before.

Again I honestly think the report that we're taking and keeping Scoot is most likely one of two things. A sign that we will trade Dame and youth rebuild or just us squeezing the teams we're in trade negotiations with regarding Scoot. There is the slimmest of possibilities that we are rolling with Dame and Scoot and Dame is cool with us using the best asset the team has had during his time here to draft a player who is young which he said he didn't want and plays his position but again I think that is a very very small chance.

Oh I'm more than well aware of this -- I haven't missed a draft in over 30 years. I was being more flippant about the process by which, technically, we'll have to "draft" him, have him announced as being a Blazer, put the hat on, etc. so, technically, folks could say, "well we DID draft him"... more of a tongue in cheek thing

 

[Natebishop3]

Yeah Dame/Scoot makes the least sense of all of the bad "less than the sum of their parts" back courts that we've rolled out since Wes left. I don't see that happening. Dame's latest quote being so vague, "They should do what's best for the team." Either tells me that Dame is done with the team or the team told him they were in some high stakes negotiations and he needs to tone down the rhetoric for the next day and a half. Just wait and see but my gut is telling me the same thing yours is. I just see it as being way way more likely that it's Zion. I'd love Jaylen but I think the Celtics will keep him now that they can offer him way way more money than any other team can.

One way or the other, it seems like Zion is done in New Orleans. They fired his favorite coach. There are multiple reports that he could be available. I'm not sure how they would walk this back if they don't trade him.

 

[blazerkor]

I wonder what would happen if you entered "prefontal cortex" into the search bar on Pornhub....?

Nothing great. I don't think Pornhub's algorithm is rocking with that phrase in it's data base.

 

[DDolla]

That gives PDX more bargaining power if someone really wants Scoot. Almost takes Charlotte off the table as a trading partner for teams if they are sold on Miller.

What if Scoot purposely screw up his 2nd visit with Charlotte because he wanted to be a Blazer?

 

[Strenuus]

2 time All Star. Career averages of 25ppg on 60% shooting. And he does shoot 3. Hit 4 in his debut.

I would think Jonathan Isaac is more overpaid. As was Chandler Parsons and many more.

Thybulle hit like 3-4 threes in his debut for us and he isnt known to be a 3 point guy. #devilsadvocateforfun

 

[Strenuus]

I wonder what would happen if you entered "prefontal cortex" into the search bar on Pornhub....?

OH YES DADDY SHOW ME YOUR LOGICAL REASONING, YES.

 

[blazerkor]

This is circuitous as hell

Yeah, this is always what Lowe's takes sound like when he doesn't have a fucking clue.

 

[illmatic99]

I agree. Tying 120M to Dame, Siakam and Grant is a recipe for disaster.

The problem here is Grant.

 

[glazeduck]

Re. Zion... I think Dusty pointed out yesterday that he and Reddish were college teammates.

I know everyone's concerned about how grounded he is right now, but for what he could be, I just think we might have enough of the right structure in place to get at least mostly goodness out of him:

Dame's leadership, college teammate, Nike in our back yard, the ability to tell his entourage to fuck off, him having a chip on his shoulder that he wasn't even worth the 3rd pick and that *his* team dumped him...

Outside of Embiid or Giannis, there aren't many realistic paths to a championship window on Dame's timeline. Getting MVP-level Zion for cheap is one of very few...

 

[Predator]

I would like to take everything back I’ve said about Brandon Miller after seeing these shenanigans:

 

[illmatic99]

I would like to take everything back I’ve said about Brandon Miller after seeing these shenanigans:

Wtf

 

[Strenuus]

I would like to take everything back I’ve said about Brandon Miller after seeing these shenanigans:

To quote Mark Cuban:

"And for those reasons, I'm out"

 

[inconceivable]

Wtf

Is he drugged? What a dumb take. Don't let Charlotte see this!

 

[blazerkor]

The problem here is Grant.

I think if the team has already told Dame they're taking the best youth and that's why his answer is they should do what's best for them. Then he's already talked to Jerami and told him. Jerami will talk to the team and try to find the best contract that he can that we can facilitate for him through S&T. No more Jerami problem. Or Dame is being aloof because a big deal is going down and he's been told to keep his head down.

 

[BIG Q]

Yeah Dame/Scoot makes the least sense of all of the bad "less than the sum of their parts" back courts that we've rolled out since Wes left. I don't see that happening. Dame's latest quote being so vague, "They should do what's best for the team." Either tells me that Dame is done with the team or the team told him they were in some high stakes negotiations and he needs to tone down the rhetoric for the next day and a half. Just wait and see but my gut is telling me the same thing yours is. I just see it as being way way more likely that it's Zion. I'd love Jaylen but I think the Celtics will keep him now that they can offer him way way more money than any other team can.

I agree that Dame needs to tone down the rhetoric, and actually should have as soon as the season ended. That said, Dame said "they" when addressing what the team should do. Not "us" or "we." Is it just semantics? Is it a subtle distancing from the Blazers? It just stood out to me.

 

[KingSpeed]

Thybulle hit like 3-4 threes in his debut for us and he isnt known to be a 3 point guy. #devilsadvocateforfun

Zion hit 37% from last season. Basically the same as Dame.

 

[LayneStaley]

I like Scoot but that means we are drafting a Bench player number 3 overall if we are keeping Dame. Still need a wing and center.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

BTW, I want Jordan Walsh with our #43.

 

[blazerkor]

I agree that Dame needs to tone down the rhetoric, and actually should have as soon as the season ended. That said, Dame said "they" when addressing what the team should do. Not "us" or "we." Is it just semantics? Is it a subtle distancing from the Blazers? It just stood out to me.

Yeah, if there aren't solid reports tomorrow night that it's Scoot for Zion and Silver announces we're picking Scoot I would say the Dame rumor mill kicks up like we've never seen it before but because of what they have... I think Brooklyn seems like the only logical place that we will send him and get a good return.

Keeping my fingers crossed for Zion but starting to get a little sad with the possibilities that Dame will not play his entire career for our team creeping up.

 

[wizenheimer]

If the Blazers take Scoot it pretty much means they are insecure about Lillards future with the Blazers.

on the other hand, it could mean the Blazers like Scoot a lot, are ecstatic they have a chance to get him after luckily moving up to 3rd in a 3-person draft instead of falling to 7, are adhering to the take BPA rule (which so many of you insist is a hard-and-fast rule), and will worry about potential fit issues with Dame later, if they are even worried about them at all

if Scoot is as good, and as ready, with the near-term upside as so many of his big advocates say, taking him is a no-brainer. For sure, the Dame/Cj and Dame/Ant pairings have for the most part failed. But the main reason for that failure wasn't size as much as it was one half of the equation having tier-3 or tier-4 talent. Scoot might actually have enough talent to change that equation

I'm not saying Dame won't ask out, but I am saying it's not nearly as likely, even after adding Scoot, as so many of you have assumed

I will say this though: Dame-Ant-Sharpe-Scoot is just too fucking awkward and it's obvious to me which one needs to be leaving...and it isn't Dame. (and no, Sharpe is not a SF)

 

[blazerkor]

I like Scoot but that means we are drafting a Bench player number 3 overall if we are keeping Dame. Still need a wing and center.

I just think there is no way that is happening. If we're drafting Scoot to keep him we're already talking to teams about a Dame trade that completes on July 10th.