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Along with Orlando, Sacramento has an excess of playable bigs. Not stars, but guys who could get minutes in a pinch.
Sabonis, Holmes, Metu, Len and Queta. Like I said, not stars but serviceable. I don't think it would take very little to acquire a couple of them.
 
Siakim is due 37M next year. Grant will want 30M easily. Is the Jody really gonna write those checks? To pay Siakim and Grant you have to unload Nurk and probably Payton too. Should trade those two anyways.
 
PCmor7 said:
This team needs a heart transplant. A few too many performances like this. I've seen Blazers teams with nowhere near this talent gut it up and play better than we've been doing lately.
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That is a huge issue. Yes, the Blazers are missing some important reserves reserves, but it's not like other teams don't have injuries as well. Most nights, we are rolling out Dame/Ant/Grant/Nurk and Hart.....and being out-efforted, out-hustled and out-executed. It's quite obvious who is playing their asses off regardless of results. That starts with Hart and Eubanks.
 
Cugel said:
Siakim is due 37M next year. Grant will want 30M easily. Is the Jody really gonna write those checks? To pay Siakim and Grant you have to unload Nurk and probably Payton too. Should trade those two anyways.
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In my trade, Simons' and Payton's long term contracts of 30 million go out.
 
cheesehoff said:
Along with Orlando, Sacramento has an excess of playable bigs. Not stars, but guys who could get minutes in a pinch.
Sabonis, Holmes, Metu, Len and Queta. Like I said, not stars but serviceable. I don't think it would take very little to acquire a couple of them.
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It would take a lot to get sabonis.
 
With the talent upgrade and parity across the league it's coming to the point where paying the luxury tax is how you become a contender...see the Warriors. Owners know they have to have top shelf talent and that means luxury tax to get a real shot at the chip. It's just been fun seeing the Lakers fail at it but check out Golden State's luxury tax bill over their conternder period and it's some serious scratch. We're just used to pinching pennies and shopping at the bench player version of the dollar store...G league call ups, etc...I guess I'm saying we need to be trusting enough of a roster to pay a luxury tax to compete at the highest level. Actually I'm glad we've struggled a bit going into the deadline because I think we need to move some pieces and upgrade our 3 pt shooting.
 
Cugel said:
Why is it so essential to build around Dame instead of building for the future? We are not exactly seeing MVP level Dame this year. He makes plenty of bad decisions on the court. Is he a top 10 player? I really like Dame and think the world of him but at some point the team has to throw on the towel and look to have a solid young team when he retires.

I am trying to look at it from a purely basketball perspective. Not saying he is trash etc.
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Emotions. That’s how Portland rolls.
 
Banana cream pie or peanut butter pie. Either way, homemade. Should help.
 
Cugel said:
Siakim is due 37M next year. Grant will want 30M easily. Is the Jody really gonna write those checks? To pay Siakim and Grant you have to unload Nurk and probably Payton too. Should trade those two anyways.
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calvin natt said:
Emotions. That’s how Portland rolls.
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So Dame is averaging 27.8ppg (10th in the league) on 49.3% from the floor and 37.3% from three. He is averaging 7.1apg (11th in the league). He's playing the best defense in his career. He's had the disadvantage of an injury interrupting his reacclimation to the game but I think his best ball this season is ahead of him on both ends. I think he is a top ten player in the NBA right now. There are younger guys that should have higher trade value than Dame who are just below him right now in current in game value but they haven't gotten ahead of him and likely won't for a few seasons.

I don't think there's anything wrong with a franchise being loyal to a player that's loyal to them.

I think moves have to be made and yeah if we had no loyalty or heart and were going on pure logic the right idea might be to trade Dame and JG to get the most we can for them and probably Nurk and Hart as well. Then build around a core of Ant, Sharpe and what we get for those guys. That being said there is just as much logic in continuing to try and build around Dame.

If we can get a second superstar or even all star that fits better with Dame and in Chauncey's system then we should trade Ant and Nurk, if the player is great enough we should include the incredibly promising Sharpe or whoever it takes to make this team a serious contender which I don't think it is at the moment because it's a good collection of talent that doesn't fit and the talent is incredibly unbalanced... with way too much of the talent and money invested in positions 1-3 and just Nurk as someone who is a serious 5 in this league but not a 5 that switches well which would be ideal for Chauncey's system.

The big problem I see is that our management might not be able to make a decision between now and the future. If we can't get past either our hope for the future of Ant or our loyalty to Dame this could be a painful time.
 
blazerkor said:
So Dame is averaging 27.8ppg (10th in the league) on 49.3% from the floor and 37.3% from three. He is averaging 7.1apg (11th in the league). He's playing the best defense in his career. He's had the disadvantage of an injury interrupting his reacclimation to the game but I think his best ball this season is ahead of him on both ends. I think he is a top ten player in the NBA right now. There are younger guys that should have higher trade value than Dame who are just below him right now in current in game value but they haven't gotten ahead of him and likely won't for a few seasons.

I don't think there's anything wrong with a franchise being loyal to a player that's loyal to them.

I think moves have to be made and yeah if we had no loyalty or heart and were going on pure logic the right idea might be to trade Dame and JG to get the most we can for them and probably Nurk and Hart as well. Then build around a core of Ant, Sharpe and what we get for those guys. That being said there is just as much logic in continuing to try and build around Dame.

If we can get a second superstar or even all star that fits better with Dame and in Chauncey's system then we should trade Ant and Nurk, if the player is great enough we should include the incredibly promising Sharpe or whoever it takes to make this team a serious contender which I don't think it is at the moment because it's a good collection of talent that doesn't fit and the talent is incredibly unbalanced... with way too much of the talent and money invested in positions 1-3 and just Nurk as someone who is a serious 5 in this league but not a 5 that switches well which would be ideal for Chauncey's system.

The big problem I see is that our management might not be able to make a decision between now and the future. If we can't get past either our hope for the future of Ant or our loyalty to Dame this could be a painful time.
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I don’t think there’s the same amount of logic between building around Lillard (again) and building around Sharpe, Simons, Walker etc. One has a much much shorter timeline. One has been tried for years. I’m not sold on Anfernee as the guy to build around either. I think everyone is on the table. But giving up a bunch of young assets for another/2nd “superstar” isn’t realistic. And leaves the cupboard bare. And everyone knows Lillard is amazing, and loyal, and the best blazer. But I think it’s actually awkward when he talks about winning a championship here. It’s seems so aloof and out of touch, or is he just saying it because it’s the right thing to say? He thinks he’s winning a title here? He’s not. But they could build a new roster with pieces back from letting him go win a championship somewhere else. It will never ever happen. But that’s what seems the most logical and smart thing to do.
 
calvin natt said:
I don’t think there’s the same amount of logic between building around Lillard (again) and building around Sharpe, Simons, Walker etc. One has a much much shorter timeline. One has been tried for years. I’m not sold on Anfernee as the guy to build around either. I think everyone is on the table. But giving up a bunch of young assets for another/2nd “superstar” isn’t realistic. And leaves the cupboard bare. And everyone knows Lillard is amazing, and loyal, and the best blazer. But I think it’s actually awkward when he talks about winning a championship here. It’s seems so aloof and out of touch, or is he just saying it because it’s the right thing to say? He thinks he’s winning a title here? He’s not. But they could build a new roster with pieces back from letting him go win a championship somewhere else. It will never ever happen. But that’s what seems the most logical and smart thing to do.
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If we could get a three to five year run going, where we are in serious contention. I would definitely leave the cupboard bare. When he plays for the first time with a guy that complements his talents like JG does, I don't think he's delusional to talk about a championship. Moves need to be made and they aren't moves I expect Dame to see but they are moves I hope Joe can see, that can make this team contenders for a small window and then we will have to rebuild. Maybe Joe will find a way to do that and keep Shae but maybe that's not the straightest line to a championship and that's what I think this team should be aiming for. Or they should go all logic and kick the can down a winding path towards a possible future championship with Shae as the main piece. Personally I like the situation where we show loyalty.
 
blazerkor said:
If we could get a three to five year run going, where we are in serious contention. I would definitely leave the cupboard bare. When he plays for the first time with a guy that complements his talents like JG does, I don't think he's delusional to talk about a championship. Moves need to be made and they aren't moves I expect Dame to see but they are moves I hope Joe can see, that can make this team contenders for a small window and then we will have to rebuild. Maybe Joe will find a way to do that and keep Shae but maybe that's not the straightest line to a championship and that's what I think this team should be aiming for. Or they should go all logic and kick the can down a winding path towards a possible future championship with Shae as the main piece. Personally I like the situation where we show loyalty.
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They’ve shown loyalty by paying him a shit ton of money, especially this current deal. If they can get this second superstar with guys on this roster, by all means, go for it
 


They need …….a lot

As constructed this really is another season of a first round bounce
 
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I hope Myles schools Nurk to show Cronin that he needs to negotiate with Indy. Is it still Kevin Pritchard?
 
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M.Turner is everything we wanted to have beside Dame with H.Whiteside.
 
Wish this team had kept McLemore. Someone who could go off on offense from the Bench. The lack of bench production for the last month or two has been killing them. No one to pick up the slack when Dame and or ant struggle to score.
 
turner is not better than nurkic.

why do people keep repeating this idea? do you guys not value rebounding and passing?

hell nurk is even a better shooter than turner and is cheaper while being locked in long term.

ugh
 
twobullz said:
Wish this team had kept McLemore. Someone who could go off on offense from the Bench. The lack of bench production for the last month or two has been killing them. No one to pick up the slack when Dame and or ant struggle to score.
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how long do you think it will take sharpe to get there?

i wish we would feature him more on the second unit.
 
I think there will be a lot of sellers at the deadline this year. Atlanta is a mess. Toronto just isn’t working. Chicago is going in the wrong direction. Does Utah finally start the tank?

Not sure if Cronin will get involved though.
 
illmatic99 said:
how long do you think it will take sharpe to get there?

i wish we would feature him more on the second unit.
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I don't personally see him getting there this year. I don't think you can have Ant, Keon and Sharpe all in the same position and all needing time to develop. One maybe two, but can't have three, plus Jabari and Trendon all needing time to develop. Need some veterans who can play and score on the bench, not all development players. Going to run the starters into the ground and that is when injuries happen.
 
OneSport3 said:
I think there will be a lot of sellers at the deadline this year. Atlanta is a mess. Toronto just isn’t working. Chicago is going in the wrong direction. Does Utah finally start the tank?

Not sure if Cronin will get involved though.
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Joe better. Why did we tank last season? Because just getting to the WCF wasn't enough. Now I know there is a longer game at play than just this season. We are so lacking in size besides Nurk and I also think that Dame and Ant have shown themselves to be less than complementary.
 
illmatic99 said:
turner is not better than nurkic.

why do people keep repeating this idea? do you guys not value rebounding and passing?

hell nurk is even a better shooter than turner and is cheaper while being locked in long term.

ugh
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I tend to agree. Turner has some really good games sometimes but watching him against Nurk for two games it seemed a wash and he is looking for a big contract.
 
A GM that’ll recognize that this roster is not even remotely close to being a contender.
 
Fez Forthright said:
A GM that’ll recognize that this roster is not even remotely close to being a contender.
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Yeah, a realistic assessment that this team is on a treadmill and very likely can't go anywhere beyond the first rd with Dame is the first and key step IMO. Do you squander assets in a desperate attempt to win with a 32 yr old Dame or realize it's time to move on. I strongly favor moving on as I am very tired of the "type" of basketball this team plays with Dame and IMO we really have no chance of going anywhere. Would prefer a rebuild
 
Let's explore trading Simons for Lauri Markkanen. The Blazers would be much improved with a strong 3 and D forward, better scoring, spread court, balance, height, and rim protection. We would even save salary, as Lauri has a contract for only $16.5 M.
 
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