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A stiff kick in the ass.
 
Hoopguru said:
If you had got choose between the two who would you choose?
Actually I would prefer to have both on the team if it all possible.
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That was my point. If you get Pascal you still want Grant. If you have both with Lillard Hart and Nurk you are an instant contender.
 
wizenheimer said:
the 'problem' is many of those advocating a blow-up won't go full bore into a blow-up

a blow-up means trading Dame, Ant, Nurkic, Grant, and Hart. Otherwise it's just more purgatory
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But even then there’s no guarantee. You can trade the entire team and still not end up with anything better.
 
Bingo Bango said:
But even then there’s no guarantee. You can trade the entire team and still not end up with anything better.
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for sure

the disconnect of the 'trade-Dame' narrative seems to be the belief that somehow, someway, there's a path to a player of Dame's level, or better, that starts with trading Dame

it took 15 years to go from Bill Walton to prime Clyde Drexler; and it took 25 years to go from Clyde to prime Dame. Players of that caliber just don't come down the road that often. A couple of months ago, one of the biggest advocates here for trading Dame predicted it would be around 7 years before the Blazers might become a contender. Which is 3 years after Ant's contract ends. yeeeeesh

tearing it all down, becoming absolutely shitty for a few years, and hoping for incredible lottery luck is a plan, but it's the kind of plan that fails a hell of a lot more often than it succeeds. Minnesota has won 3 playoff game in the last 18 years and have a losing record in their 19th year. Sacramento hasn't even played a playoff game since 2006...17 years
 
wizenheimer said:
for sure

the disconnect of the 'trade-Dame' narrative seems to be the belief that somehow, someway, there's a path to a player of Dame's level, or better, that starts with trading Dame

it took 15 years to go from Bill Walton to prime Clyde Drexler; and it took 25 years to go from Clyde to prime Dame. Players of that caliber just don't come down the road that often. A couple of months ago, one of the biggest advocates here for trading Dame predicted it would be around 7 years before the Blazers might become a contender. Which is 3 years after Ant's contract ends. yeeeeesh

tearing it all down, becoming absolutely shitty for a few years, and hoping for incredible lottery luck is a plan, but it's the kind of plan that fails a hell of a lot more often than it succeeds. Minnesota has won 3 playoff game in the last 18 years and have a losing record in their 19th year. Sacramento hasn't even played a playoff game since 2006...17 years
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How many years did it take to go from Brandon Roy to Lillard? Why does it need to be torn down?
 
Cugel said:
because dame is not a mvp level guy anymore
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He's in a shooting slump but he is playing the best defense of his career. I don't think the shooting slump lasts much longer and if he's hitting threes at his career average then he's an all NBA player. He really is moving better than he was the three seasons before last and obviously moving better than last season.

I guess we'll see if he's worse than he used to be or if he's lost his shot somehow which has almost never happened in the history of the league to a player with his shooting numbers and discipline.
 
Bingo Bango said:
But even then there’s no guarantee. You can trade the entire team and still not end up with anything better.
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Absolutely it does not. The only guarantee send to be that this era of the Blazers will never be a contender. I can understand why some people want to at least try another direction.
 
We've got assets, so If a deal is there that would really help this team, I don't think Joe would hesitate to pull the trigger.
 
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