Science What is a racist?

[dviss1]

Ask yourself for a moment how would MLK address this post....and as I mentioned...share your experience or view with him with the intention of creating an opportunity to teach an old white sailor in his 80s....this thread is valuable on many levels...you should definitely weigh in on the topic. Anything else perpetuates just more of the same division that I would like to see go away....I read his post to be referring to America being called the great satan...which MLK would never accept as truth. The thorns of history are meant to be plucked out and healed.

No. No I won't. I'm not MLK. I'm half Malcolm. And you don't know what he'd accept America being called. And off the old sailor your referring to is @MarAzul, I think you're mistaken about his intentions with this thread.

Edit: and here you go again with the come to Jesus moments. I really want you to stop doing that. You don't have any come to Jesus moments with him. Only me. I'm good...

And I'm not sure that ol dog can learn a new trick...

 

[riverman]

No. No I won't. I'm not MLK. I'm half Malcolm. And you don't know what he'd accept America being called. And off the old sailor your referring to is @MarAzul, I think you're mistaken about his intentions with this thread.

All the more reason to attempt to project some clarity though ...I don't need to know someone's intention to speak with them in a civil way or at least try. I'm an agnostic as well but wisdom comes in many forms...MLK, Gandhi, Ben Franklin, on and on.

 

[MarAzul]

I still don't know WTF you're talking about.

Well then read what other black men sort of damn near take for scripture. I did not invent the idea.

 

[MarAzul]

I'm half Malcolm

And Malcom knew these guys and their writing very well.

Wallace Fard Muhammad and Elijah Muhammad

 

[riverman]

Well then read what other black men sort of damn near take for scripture. I did not invent the idea.

that's unnecessary..dviss strikes me as a well read intelligent man....better to discuss the topic from an inclusive human platform and not stereotype ...I think your post is devoid of the topic. Read what I linked from Martin Luther King above...great wisdom to be found if one cares to gain insight

 

[dviss1]

Well then read what other black men sort of damn near take for scripture. I did not invent the idea.

Now this is racist. You can quit while you're behind. You don't know WTF you're talking about and I'm done with this thread now.

It's full of shit.

 

[MarAzul]

MLK, Gandhi

If King had made it a little longer, I think he would have had Gandhi down cold.
As it was, he still had too much Georgia in the accent. The cadence was spot on though.

 

[MarAzul]

Now this is racist.

Well we have another nomination for what racist is. Not quite sure I can articulate it though. Is there any help?

 

[MarAzul]

that's unnecessary

Let me be straight forward with you. What do you find unnecessary? Did you read the reference? do you know the story?
Does dviss know? Malcomb did.

 

[riverman]

I'm done here...gave it a shot

 

[MarAzul]

I'm done here...gave it a shot

Good try river.

 

[Chris Craig]

I did! I find the devil has no part in this subject. But if you do, you may feel free to explain it.

Besides, I don't think American Racism is a valid observation. Slavery or Racism did not begin in America. It was in full swing
When the Whites and Blacks first came here. The Slavery ended more than 150 years ago, most of the white people and their progenitors came here since then. There were never much more than 1 million slave owners in this country and some of the biggest were not even white. History now. So what perpetuates this Racism among these new comers? You call racist more than most in this forum. I doubt you find the devil has a hand in this game, unless of course you are one of those that believe the white man is the devil. More than a few do.

American racism is a valid observation. Racism broken down is race system (ism =system) America has a unique system

 

[riverman]

Edit: and here you go again with the come to Jesus moments. I really want you to stop doing that.

something you'd never say to Dr King...why direct this at me? My generation did more for civil rights than any American era in our history...and I'm not preaching anything to convert anybody...have your opinion and voice it....I won't walk on egg shells having mine any more than you will..

 

[dviss1]

something you'd never say to Dr King...why direct this at me? My generation did more for civil rights than any American era in our history...and I'm not preaching anything to convert anybody...have your opinion and voice it....I won't walk on egg shells having mine any more than you will..

So now you're comparing yourself to Dr king....

 

[dviss1]

something you'd never say to Dr King...why direct this at me? My generation did more for civil rights than any American era in our history...and I'm not preaching anything to convert anybody...have your opinion and voice it....I won't walk on egg shells having mine any more than you will..

You don't have them with him? Why?

 

[MarAzul]

So now you're comparing yourself to Dr king....

The cheeky devil.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

You don't have them with him? Why?

Isn't post 125 basically that kind of post?

 

[dviss1]

Isn't post 125 basically that kind of post?

Maybe not Jesus... More like come to John the Baptist.

 

[MarAzul]

Isn't post 125 basically that kind of post?

Perhaps you can fill in the blanks. What is unnecessary?

 

[MarAzul]

I think your post is devoid of the topic

Rather strange you lost the trail river. I think it was right on target with about the only new input, the devil in this thread.

 

[dviss1]

The cheeky devil.

Do you really think @SportsAndWhine was calling white people devils?

C'mon man... You make this conversation excruciating with you really not giving a shit.

@riverman he's not trying to do what people should start doing first, listen and care.

 

[Chris Craig]

Rather strange you lost the trail river. I think it was right on target with about the only new input, the devil in this thread.

If the devil, a preconcieved notion of yours, was all you got out of this thread. You truly weren't listening.

 

[MarAzul]

C'mon man... You make this conversation excruciating with you really not giving a shit.

@riverman he's not trying to do what people should start doing first, listen and care.

Actually I did care. The reason for the tread. Sports&Whine brought up the devil. Then you referenced the Torrah and wallah!

When asked if you see White men as the devil, you used many words, but the salient word was Yes.
The only place I am aware of that teaches this idea, is detailed in the reference I gave you.
It was not me that put out these clues, I did follow them. Other than this, I did not learn shit.
I do not think people are willing to speak straight and until they will, there will be progress like we observe here.
None.

You may not like what I say, but I do give you my take of what I know.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

What is unnecessary?

Based on my reading of this thread (and several others), any attempts by you to tell dviss what he should do, say, think, read, or know.

 

[MarAzul]

If the devil, a preconcieved notion of yours, was all you got out of this thread. You truly weren't listening.

Take a break CC, before I feel the need to put @PtldPlatypus to work.

 

[riverman]

So now you're comparing yourself to Dr king....

I didn't come up with a come to jesus line....Dr King was a preacher...I'm not dviss...nor did I compare myself to the man....I am part of the generation that protested Jim Crow....I was born the year before your mother...and I will express myself....the thread was going well until folks started picking at scabs....if one picks at a scab the wound won't heal...only leave a permanent scar...I've taken Marz to task many, many times around here but I don't believe he's a racist at all...another poster around here I'm sure is but he hasn't posted in this thread

 

[dviss1]

If the devil, a preconcieved notion of yours, was all you got out of this thread. You truly weren't listening.

Funny thing is, @SportsAndWhine was talking about actual Satan.

Might as well lock this worthless thread.

 

[Chris Craig]

Actually I did care. The reason for the tread. Sports&Whine brought up the devil. Then you referenced the Torrah and wallah!

When asked if you see White men as the devil, you used many words, but the salient word was Yes.
The only place I am aware of that teaches this idea, is detailed in the reference I gave you.
It was not me that put out these clues, I did follow them. Other than this, I did not learn shit.
I do not think people are willing to speak straight and until they will, there will be progress like we observe here.
None.

You may not like what I say, but I do give you my take of what I know.

 

[MarAzul]

Based on my reading of this thread (and several others), any attempts by you to tell dviss what he should do, say, think, read, or know.

I see. Well it was a suggestion that covered the subject that he did not appear to know.
Is there another way?

 

[Chris Craig]

Take a break CC, before I feel the need to put @PtldPlatypus to work.

You think that is an insult? What is there to edit?