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It really is an easy solution, if you don't like the way a charter school conducts themselves . . . don't send your kid to that charter school.

I agree with eastoff in that if you want to complain about the way schools disciplining their children, the biggest offenders would be charter and private schools.

Public schools are too afraid of being sued to really do what they think is best for the child and the school, IMO.
 
Eastoff said:
"Alternative elementary" AKA not public school!

Charter school aka NOT PUBLIC SCHOOL!


Not even true! http://www.snopes.com/politics/christmas/suspended.asp

AKA BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT. It's not the public schools doing this, it's the charter schools whom you want to turn towards!
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Why the fuck are you people focusing entirely on the public school part of the rant? Seriously? Do you want me to go back and edit it to say "schools?"

This is why this country is so fucked up. You are ignoring the problem and focusing on the politics. Get the fuck over it.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Why the fuck are you people focusing entirely on the public school part of the rant? Seriously? Do you want me to go back and edit it to say "schools?"

This is why this country is so fucked up. You are ignoring the problem and focusing on the politics. Get the fuck over it.
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So would it then be edited to say you're contemplating an alternative to schools in general for your future kids?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Why the fuck are you people focusing entirely on the public school part of the rant? Seriously? Do you want me to go back and edit it to say "schools?"

This is why this country is so fucked up. You are ignoring the problem and focusing on the politics. Get the fuck over it.
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Your exact solution was to pull your hypothetical kids out of public school and send them to a charter. You don't see the irony in your statement? Your false blame and incorrect solution?
 
Eastoff said:
Your exact solution was to pull your hypothetical kids out of public school and send them to a charter. You don't see the irony in your statement? Your false blame and incorrect solution?
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Where did I say that I would send my kids to charter schools? Point me where I have ever said that I would send my kids to charter schools?

Nice one bro.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Where did I say that I would send my kids to charter schools? Point me where I have ever said that I would send my kids to charter schools?

Nice one bro.
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In your OP you said: I do not have kids yet, but I'm honestly contemplating an alternative to public schools because I'm afraid of what they're teaching our kids.
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
In your OP you said: I do not have kids yet, but I'm honestly contemplating an alternative to public schools because I'm afraid of what they're teaching our kids.
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Still not sure where the words "charter school" are hiding in that sentence :dunno:
 
Natebishop3 said:
I do not have kids yet, but I'm honestly contemplating an alternative to public schools because I'm afraid of what they're teaching our kids.
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This is the quote I was remembering. I interpreted your statement poorly, I am sorry.
 
Eastoff said:
This is the quote I was remembering. I interpreted your statement poorly, I am sorry.
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I don't understand why you guys are rushing to the defense of schools here... should I have said "schools" and not just "public schools?" Yes, but my point is that schools in general are enforcing these ridiculous social rules on our children. I don't understand how this is conservative or liberal, and yet most of the liberal posters are becoming hostile here.

Are you guys really that protective of our public school system?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Still not sure where the words "charter school" are hiding in that sentence :dunno:
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Well geez Nate, you tell us what you meant. Don't mean to be reading too much into your statement but when you say alternative to public schools, what are you talking about? Private schools and charters come to my mind. But maybe you are talking some alternative many of us don't know about (school abroad?)
 
Natebishop3 said:
I don't understand why you guys are rushing to the defense of schools here... should I have said "schools" and not just "public schools?" Yes, but my point is that schools in general are enforcing these ridiculous social rules on our children. I don't understand how this is conservative or liberal, and yet most of the liberal posters are becoming hostile here.

Are you guys really that protective of our public school system?
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As you already stated, you don't have children . . . so maybe you aren't aware of some of the many problems parents have with schools. There are plenty of issues parents may have with schools. In my list of top 5 concerns about a school (and others I talk too), being too strict is not one of them.
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
Well geez Nate, you tell us what you meant. Don't mean to be reading too much into your statement but when you say alternative to public schools, what are you talking about? Private schools and charters come to my mind. But maybe you are talking some alternative many of us don't know about (school abroad?)
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What I meant? Well, first and foremost, that we should be taking a long fucking look at our schools and how they're being run. Zero tolerance is killing our schools.

Secondly, I said "alternative to public schools" because I wanted to be vague. It was intentional. I haven't decided yet what I will do when I have kids, but you guys are making it out like I was championing charter schools. I never said anything of the sort. I just find it funny that the rebuttal to my post is, "BUT IT HAPPENS AT PRIVATE SCHOOLS TOO!!!!!!!!111!"

Is that seriously the answer? It's happening in public and private, so that makes it okay?
 
Natebishop3 said:
I don't understand why you guys are rushing to the defense of schools here... should I have said "schools" and not just "public schools?" Yes, but my point is that schools in general are enforcing these ridiculous social rules on our children. I don't understand how this is conservative or liberal, and yet most of the liberal posters are becoming hostile here.

Are you guys really that protective of our public school system?
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I came to the defense of public schools because you erroneously called this a public school and then every single response, including your own, was about how fucked up public schools were.
 
porkchopexpress said:
I came to the defense of public schools because you erroneously called this a public school and then every single response, including your own, was about how fucked up public schools were.
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Public schools ARE fucked up. So are some charter schools. So are some private schools.

Of those three, which ones can we inflict the most change? That's my point.
 
Natebishop3 said:
What I meant? Well, first and foremost, that we should be taking a long fucking look at our schools and how they're being run. Zero tolerance is killing our schools.

Secondly, I said "alternative to public schools" because I wanted to be vague. It was intentional. I haven't decided yet what I will do when I have kids, but you guys are making it out like I was championing charter schools. I never said anything of the sort. I just find it funny that the rebuttal to my post is, "BUT IT HAPPENS AT PRIVATE SCHOOLS TOO!!!!!!!!111!"

Is that seriously the answer? It's happening in public and private, so that makes it okay?
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Well if you meant that you said another thing, and that might be where you are reading hostility when really it is about clarification. It was hard to understand why you are thinking of alternatives to public school when the incident you cited happened at an alternative to public school.

As far as this incident, don't know enough, but sounds like an overreaction that they have since cured. But trust me when I say that an incident like this will be one of your least concerns vs the daily happenings of what goes on in school.

BTW-alternative to public school isn't very vague to me. Private, charter or home school seem to be the only practical alternatives.
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
Well if you meant that you said another thing, and that might be where you are reading hostility when really it is about clarification. It was hard to understand why you are thinking of alternatives to public school when the incident you cited happened at an alternative to public school.

As far as this incident, don't know enough, but sounds like an overreaction that they have since cured. But trust me when I say that an incident like this will be one of your least concerns vs the daily happenings of what goes on in school.

BTW-alternative to public school isn't very vague to me. Private, charter or home school seem to be the only practical alternatives.
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I am seriously considering sending my kids to a community college for high school. They have high school completion programs that count towards your degree as well. You get a much better education without all the bullshit that goes with a public high school.
 
I think the bigger problem is that some high school grads cant read, or find Massachusetts on the map, let alone do simple fractions or balance a checkbook. A nation of idiots and a few smart people to pick the meat off their bones.

More, better teachers, less standardized nonsense, more art and music, and technical school for the less than gifted
 
Natebishop3 said:
Public schools ARE fucked up. So are some charter schools. So are some private schools.

Of those three, which ones can we inflict the most change? That's my point.
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Do you not see how your initial post totally skewed the conversation to be that public schools suck? When the story isn't even about public schools (and public funds do not equate to public schools). I, and a couple others mention that this wasn't a public school and you go off on how WE are politicizing this incident. You were the one doing that, not I.
 
porkchopexpress said:
Do you not see how your initial post totally skewed the conversation to be that public schools suck? When the story isn't even about public schools (and public funds do not equate to public schools). I, and a couple others mention that this wasn't a public school and you go off on how WE are politicizing this incident. You were the one doing that, not I.
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I was under the impression that charter schools are lumped in with public schools because they get public funding. If they are receiving public funding, they are still in essence public schools.

"A charter school is a school which receives public funding but operates independently."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_school
 
It simply takes parental involvement. You need to acquaint yourself with the curriculum of the school and become an active member of the school community. I have sat down with both my child's teacher and the school principal a number of times to give input and voice my dissatisfaction.

My child is currently in public school, but he also has a slot waiting for him at a private one if I ever decide his public school no longer is doing their job.

I can't imagine sending my child to public school after the elementary level.
 
maxiep said:
It simply takes parental involvement. You need to acquaint yourself with the curriculum of the school and become an active member of the school community. I have sat down with both my child's teacher and the school principal a number of times to give input and voice my dissatisfaction.

My child is currently in public school, but he also has a slot waiting for him at a private one if I ever decide his public school no longer is doing their job.

I can't imagine sending my child to public school after the elementary level.
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But it seems like most of the articles I link have to do with elementary school. Kids that are six, seven, eight years old, etc.
 
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Once again, charter schools get public money, and the teachers there get PERS in the state of Oregon.

It's funny watching a bunch of self-proclaimed "experts" rush to the defense of public schools, when they don't even know that charter schools ARE public schools.
 
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