What would Lopez be worth now?

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I've been reading some of the Asik trade rumors and I'm stunned at some of the names being thrown around.

One rumor was Asik to Boston for Jeff Green, Brandon Bass, and a draft pick.
http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/779/omer-asik-talks-progressing

That just blows me away. Supposedly Philadelphia is another team that's in the running. I can only imagine it's something like Hawes and Turner.

This got me thinking, what would Lopez be worth on the open market after the season he's having?

We got him for Jeff Withey, a future second, and cash considerations. What a steal. It's amazing to me what Neil was able to pull off last summer.

I wouldn't trade the guy. No way. I'm just curious how much his value has gone up since last summer.
 
Why would Boston do that, at all?

Just eww.
 
Strenuus said:
Why would Boston do that, at all?

Just eww.
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I don't know man... it just doesn't make sense to me. I like Asik, I think he's a good player on the right team, but he's not a star. He and Lopez are actually very comparable. Asik is a better defender, and Robin is a better offensive player.
 
You know how lazy I can be......especially on 4 hours of sleep and working 30 hours the last 2 days....... but what is Robin averaging this season and what is his contract status?
 
Current averages (which are improving every damn game)

9.6 ppg, 8.4 boards, 1.6 blocks 52% on FG and 78% on FT (which I love)
 
His contract is just a little under $6 million this year, and a little over $6 million next year. He's a free agent after next season.
 
Natebishop3 said:
His contract is just a little under $6 million this year, and a little over $6 million next year. He's a free agent after next season.
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What a bargain! Amazing! His skills are a perfect compliment to LA, at every level.
 
HCP said:
FAR exceeded my expectations!!!!
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The funny thing is, he's averaging less points than last year, but WAY more boards. Also, his offensive rating is through the roof, and his defensive rating is also improved.

Last year he averaged 11.3 ppg, 5.6 rebounds, his offensive rating was 114 and his defensive rating was 110.

This year his offensive rating is 123 and his defensive rating is 105.
 
I consider myself very knowledgeable about the game......pretty much a genius, but the O and D rating thing flat out confuses me! He could keep his averages what they are right now and I will be thrilled!
 
His Cap Hold is $10 mil after this season and next. Perhaps the question should be is he worth his cap hold in 2 years? I say yes. I'll have 2 full seasons to judge before making any proclamations beyond that.
 
HCP said:
I consider myself very knowledgeable about the game......pretty much a genius, but the O and D rating thing flat out confuses me! He could keep his averages what they are right now and I will be thrilled!
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It's a manufactured stat and you're better off just going with your experience watching him play. Those kind of stats only carry a ton of weight for people that don't follow Portland religiously like us. So, if you're confused, you're not missing anything.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Current averages (which are improving every damn game)

9.6 ppg, 8.4 boards, 1.6 blocks 52% on FG and 78% on FT (which I love)
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His best attributes don't come via stats. A smart player, a 7 footer who plays like one and an enforcer down low.
 
MickZagger said:
His best attributes don't come via stats. A smart player, a 7 footer who plays like one and an enforcer down low.
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Watching him direct and lead guys on Defense from TReb to LA when they get turned around or lose their man is what I like most about him.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I've been reading some of the Asik trade rumors and I'm stunned at some of the names being thrown around.

One rumor was Asik to Boston for Jeff Green, Brandon Bass, and a draft pick.
http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/779/omer-asik-talks-progressing

That just blows me away. Supposedly Philadelphia is another team that's in the running. I can only imagine it's something like Hawes and Turner.

This got me thinking, what would Lopez be worth on the open market after the season he's having?

We got him for Jeff Withey, a future second, and cash considerations. What a steal. It's amazing to me what Neil was able to pull off last summer.

I wouldn't trade the guy. No way. I'm just curious how much his value has gone up since last summer.
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Who needs him?
 
The Blazers probably value Lopez more than any other team right now. It pays to play along side the best big man in the NBA.
 
BigGameDamian said:
The Blazers probably value Lopez more than any other team right now. It pays to play along side the best big man in the NBA.
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Yep. I like Lopez a lot, but if there's one thing Tim Duncan has have proven over the years is that you can put a ho-hum blue collar big man next to a stud PF and he'll look pretty good. Defend, set picks, screen, rebound, take only wide open shots, and get the fuck out of the way. Essentially, be really really big. To his credit, he's not bad at it, and he does it without getting in lots of foul trouble.

I think the league probably realizes that. Most smart teams would probably pay him more, but he's still a $7-$9m/year player.

Unless, of course, New York has some means of throwing ridiculous money around. "Market value" gets interesting when you deal with retarded rich people.
 
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I would have never guessed that he would be 10/10 guy. I know not yet but he is essentially headed that direct. How many times have we said. "If we could just get a 10/10 that blocks a few shots a game ..."

Presto ....

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Natebishop3 said:
The funny thing is, he's averaging less points than last year, but WAY more boards. Also, his offensive rating is through the roof, and his defensive rating is also improved.

Last year he averaged 11.3 ppg, 5.6 rebounds, his offensive rating was 114 and his defensive rating was 110.

This year his offensive rating is 123 and his defensive rating is 105.
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Those are team stats.
 
mook said:
I think the league probably realizes that. Most smart teams would probably pay him more, but he's still a $7-$9m/year player.
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Not the way he is playing this year. He was worth $6 million as an underwhelming big man in Phoenix. Guys like Splitter and Al Jefferson get over $10 million. We are only 25 games into the year, but if Lopez continues his production for all of this year and all of next year, which is probably unlikely, but if he somehow does he will be paid nearly max money at around $15 million. The league always has a shortage of big men, and one who is efficient, hits free throws, is a legit rim protector and contributes on both ends of the court will be one of the most sought free agents out there.
 
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Draco said:
Not the way he is playing this year. He was worth $6 million as an underwhelming big man in Phoenix. Guys like Splitter and Al Jefferson get over $10 million. We are only 25 games into the year, but if Lopez continues his production for all of this year and all of next year, which is probably unlikely, but if he somehow does he will be paid nearly max money at around $15 million. The league always has a shortage of big men, and one who is efficient, hits free throws, is a legit rim protector and contributes on both ends of the court will be one of the most sought free agents out there.
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And in that situation, we'll see Paul pay that money because Lopez's success at center is symbiotically tied to our team success. If Lopez is worth $15 million, it means we're winning 60 a season and making major noise in the playoffs. And that's when Paul's pocketbook begins to open up.
 
Draco said:
Not the way he is playing this year. He was worth $6 million as an underwhelming big man in Phoenix. Guys like Splitter and Al Jefferson get over $10 million. We are only 25 games into the year, but if Lopez continues his production for all of this year and all of next year, which is probably unlikely, but if he somehow does he will be paid nearly max money at around $15 million. The league always has a shortage of big men, and one who is efficient, hits free throws, is a legit rim protector and contributes on both ends of the court will be one of the most sought free agents out there.
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Big men always command a premium and I think given his current trajectory $12-$15 is not unreasonable by the end of next year. Which brings up a bigger question, how do we afford all these guys as time goes on? Do they love playing with eachother and here enough to take pay cuts? Does Paul pay whatever it takes to keep the talent and chemistry together?
 
What is nice is we probably have Lopez at the peak of his career this yr and next. Not saying he will decline fast, but it's nice to have him for these next two years paired with Aldridge at 27 yrs old.

I agree with others. Love Lopez, but Aldridge is making him look that good. What I like about Lopez, is he doesn't care about number or his touches . . . he is there to help out LA and the team.
 
I wonder what his brother will tell him. Brook gets 15-mil per and if Robins numbers are better it may be tough for the Blazers to convince him to sign an extension for 10 per at the end of the season. But if he stays healthy and I am the Blazers, that is what I offer him, 30 million over 3 years.

So essentially they would be paying Robin $35 mil over 4 more years. That is fair value.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I wonder what his brother will tell him. Brook gets 15-mil per and if Robins numbers are better it may be tough for the Blazers to convince him to sign an extension for 10 per at the end of the season. But if he stays healthy and I am the Blazers, that is what I offer him, 30 million over 3 years.

So essentially they would be paying Robin $35 mil over 4 more years. That is fair value.
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I think Lopez, if keeping his production like he is now, would demand the equivalent of a Splitter type contract. Obviously in a couple years, that maybe a little more than what Splitter got this season.
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
What is nice is we probably have Lopez at the peak of his career this yr and next. Not saying he will decline fast, but it's nice to have him for these next two years paired with Aldridge at 27 yrs old.

I agree with others. Love Lopez, but Aldridge is making him look that good. What I like about Lopez, is he doesn't care about number or his touches . . . he is there to help out LA and the team.
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Lopez and LA have a very symbiotic relationship. Their whole value seems to far exceed the sum of their individual values.
 
magnifier661 said:
I think Lopez, if keeping his production like he is now, would demand the equivalent of a Splitter type contract. Obviously in a couple years, that maybe a little more than what Splitter got this season.
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Splitter's deal(4/36) is what I was thinking for him as well.
 
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