Sure, but the topic is almost entirely about the abortion issue and when someone says pro-choice or pro-life that is the issue they are almost always talking about.
I was not trying to conflate or compare the two subjects, like I pointed out above. I was just pointing out that when the terms are used it is generally meant towards one specific issue (abortion).
that's all good but I also mentioned in that post that I don't think men have a vote in this issue because they cannot become pregnant or be forced to have a child....but they can pass laws that impose that on women who can become pregnant....let's include that in the choice discussion as well. ...women can choose to smoke, drink or do drugs during pregnancy whether I agree with it or not...it's their choice..a bad one but it's legal..this is not an abortion thread so sorry to derail it.
Kinda, yeah I get what you’re saying about pro / anti abortion, that was probably not the right simplification of the subject, or semantically incorrect. Just the point overall is that almost anytime ‘pro-choice’, or ‘pro-life’ is used it is almost exclusively used on the abortion issue, so I am just pointing out that using the words in a literal sense outside of that specific issue is kind of a strawman argument used to try to catch someone in hypocrisy cause they said they were pro-choice or pro-life.
Haha, whats that line from arrested developement? “Im pro-life except when it comes to the death penalty, and then thats only to ensure more life!” I should look up the qoute.
Sorry, I know this is OT but I saw a huge fire in SF (on the news yesterday), and I saw a lady talking about she barely got out and she wasn't sure where her cat was (I couldn't tell, but I thought she called it Lucia), I immediately thought of you. I hope you're doing ok, and if that was you I hope your cat is ok.
Ah, well I never claimed to be smart, I thought she lived in SF. My bad.
Im not sure why I wanted to tell this story, but where I grew up in North Portland, we lived across the street from a drug dealer and had gangs around all the time. I had this cat that my parents let me get when I was 5, I loved that cat (he ended up living for 19 years!). We made him come in at nights cause at the time cats and other animals getting ran over and police chases through the street we were on was fairly normal. Anyways one night I thought he had come inside and I realized at about 10pm he hadnt come to bed yet, so I snuck outside in just my underwear and searched all over for him til I found him. My neighbors having seen me walking around looking for my cat went and got my parents. Who to this day give me a ton of crap about how I was so worried about my cat getting hurt I didnt stop to think about putting clothes on. I was 8 when this happened. I miss that cat.
I bet we got an anti-natalist or two in here somewhere.
Tiffany Haddish talked about this as a black woman who didn't want to bring a black child into the world and it brought her to tears on Melo's "What's in your glass podcast last Monday"...they had a good talk about that that I recommend for anyone looking to understand more about what black women experience growing up in the US...Melo is a deep, intelligent guy. He's making sure the conversations are being heard.
Hold up......CrandC is a WOMAN!!!!!!????
