OT White People

[ABM]

you don't need to wonder....do your homework...that's a simple question to answer..start with the NAACP

It was a rhetorical question. Some of the ranks don't want to be pc'd.

 

[riverman]

It was a rhetorical question. Some of the ranks don't want to be pc'd.

Well I will say I'd guess many would prefer to be called African Canadian at this point if we're being rhetorical about it...the American part is losing it's charms recently under our version of Mussolini

 

[ABM]

Well I will say I'd guess many would prefer to be called African Canadian at this point if we're being rhetorical about it...the American part is losing it's charms recently under our version of Mussolini

All the pc stuff is just that...pc. As I mentioned in another thread, these things are a matter of the heart. We all need to be checking our collective hearts at the door.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[riverman]

All the pc stuff is just that...pc. As I mentioned in another thread, these things are a matter of the heart. We all need to be checking our collective hearts at the door.

We all need to be checking our collective weapons at the door...I'm on heart medication...mine is no threat...I'll be carrying it right through the door....

 

[riverman]

All the pc stuff is just that...pc. As I mentioned in another thread, these things are a matter of the heart. We all need to be checking our collective hearts at the door.

you do realize pc stands for personal computer, right? you must be a mac guy

 

[ABM]

you do realize pc stands for personal computer, right? you must be a mac guy

Actually, I'm not.

 

[RR7]

Well I will say I'd guess many would prefer to be called African Canadian at this point if we're being rhetorical about it...the American part is losing it's charms recently under our version of Mussolini

Canada is still a part of north America though.

I joked before, having been born in south africa, can steve nash claim to factually be african American?

 

[THE HCP]

Canada is still a part of north America though.

I joked before, having been born in south africa, can steve nash claim to factually be african American?

No, but Charlize Theron can.

 

[wizenheimer]

....got no reason to live...

yeah....I hace actually thought about what the lyrics would be is white people was replaced in the RN song

 

[wizenheimer]

WTF???

tell me that's from The Onion....?

 

[Chris Craig]

So your opinion is people must be bribed to be good, caring contributors to society?

I consider most public school and "higher education" teachers in particular to be overpaid, intellectually- lazy, detrimental-to-society, political puppets/activists. Who do you think all these people learned racism from?

And I consider that a personal insult

 

[Chris Craig]

Greedy realestate scammers, lying presidents, brain dead rednecks, ignorant social circles and fearful white supremacists like the KKK.....mostly uneducated types who think being loud and carrying a big gun makes them right....didn't see professors lynching blacks in the 50s.....or teaching young people to lynch blacks and look down on minorities but you know this....

You forgot parents

 

[riverman]

You forgot parents

Those parents probably belong to the groups I mentioned though...Trump has kids

 

[wizenheimer]

And I consider that a personal insult

after seeing that shirt in your avatar, I thought you were beyond insulting

 

[Chris Craig]

Those parents probably belong to the groups I mentioned though...Trump has kids

And who do think Trumps kids learned it from?

 

[Chris Craig]

after seeing that shirt in your avatar, I thought you were beyond insulting

That is freshest Hawaiian shirt you'll ever see

 

[ABM]

No, but Charlize Theron can.

'nuf said.

 

[Lanny]

"White people" is a slur? What do you prefer to be called, "melanin-challenged?"

I think 'ignorant' is the term you're looking for.

 

[julius]

And I consider that a personal insult

The only reason to take something as a personal insult, is if you give a shit about the person, or in this case a fictional character made up for his own entertainment.

Since you have no reason to give a shit about what he says, thinks or does, don't take it as a personal insult. Take it for what it is, a really lame attempt at satirical humor.

 

[ABM]

The only reason to take something as a personal insult, is if you give a [crap] about the person, or in this case a fictional character made up for his own entertainment.

Amen, bro. Although, in some strange way, I do care for everyone in here. There's a certain, ahem, camaraderie among the ranks.....despite some of our glaring differences

And a one-a, and a two-a......

 

[Propagandist]

I'm wondering how the whole "African-American" description came into play when all my Black friends want to be called, well, Black?

It was a rhetorical question. Some of the ranks don't want to be pc'd.

All the pc stuff is just that...pc. As I mentioned in another thread, these things are a matter of the heart. We all need to be checking our collective hearts at the door.

Dad? Is that you? Uncle? How can all you "conservatives" that "aren't racists" have EXACTLY the same talking points?!?

You are "just curious." "Everyone is equal." "I love everyone." "Why can't we all get along?" Guess what. IT ISN'T ABOUT YOU. You don't get it? Then read or shush up. Or continue on. Just understand, the way you talk is the way "they" talk. And by "they" I mean, the complicit.

I know you must know this but: some words are charged. Some people, usually THE people being defined by these words, don't like them and prefer they not be attached to them. They are never the majority and deserve the respect not to have to wear labels they don't like. Some groups, like Native Americans (I incidentally have a Native American friend who calls herself and others "Indians," although many find it offensive. So what? SHE ISN'T EVERYONE!) have little to no voice, and therefore have to endure continued abuse. For example, the Redskins is a fucked name; it should be changed. The Indians is less fucked, but fucked nevertheless and should be changed. And it goes on...

The point is mind your own business. A constantly evolving vocabulary can be confusing, but it isn't up to you (or all your black "friends") to say what offends people that AREN'T YOU. I also think, it is healthy not to sink into the cement of "knowing things" about other groups anyhow. Walk up to most any African American and ask what "the talk" is and they'll tell you it's when you tell your kids how to survive when they inevitably have an interaction with the police. Ask a white American the same thing and they'll giggle and say "the birds and the bees." If that isn't a stark enough contrast, I don't know what is.

As I tell my kids (and I'm paraphrasing here): it's better to admit you don't know something, than talk out of your fucking ass.

 

[ABM]

Dad? Is that you? Uncle? How can all you "conservatives" that "aren't racists" have EXACTLY the same talking points?!?

You are "just curious." "Everyone is equal." "I love everyone." "Why can't we all get along?" Guess what. IT ISN'T ABOUT YOU. You don't get it? Then read or shush up. Or continue on. Just understand, the way you talk is the way "they" talk. And by "they" I mean, the complicit.

I know you must know this but: some words are charged. Some people, usually THE people being defined by these words, don't like them and prefer they not be attached to them. They are never the majority and deserve the respect not to have to wear labels they don't like. Some groups, like Native Americans (I incidentally have a Native American friend who calls herself and others "Indians," although many find it offensive. So what? SHE ISN'T EVERYONE!) have little to no voice, and therefore have to endure continued abuse. For example, the Redskins is a fucked name; it should be changed. The Indians is less fucked, but fucked nevertheless and should be changed. And it goes on...

The point is mind your own business. A constantly evolving vocabulary can be confusing, but it isn't up to you (or all your black "friends") to say what offends people that AREN'T YOU. I also think, it is healthy not to sink into the cement of "knowing things" about other groups anyhow. Walk up to most any African American and ask what "the talk" is and they'll tell you it's when you tell your kids how to survive when they inevitably have an interaction with the police. Ask a white American the same thing and they'll giggle and say "the birds and the bees." If that isn't a stark enough contrast, I don't know what is.

As I tell my kids (and I'm paraphrasing here): it's better to admit you don't know something, than talk out of your fucking ass.

Thanks for the insights. I'm just a bit quizzical than most, and have every right to ask questions - rhetorical, or not. You have every right to bash any way you wish. It's just a message board, after all.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Amen, bro. Although, in some strange way, I do care for everyone in here. There's a certain, ahem, camaraderie among the ranks.....despite some of our glaring differences

And a one-a, and a two-a......

Uhh I wouldnt go there. I was pointedly put in my place about this being a place of unity and togetherness.....

 

[ABM]

Uhh I wouldnt go there. I was pointedly put in my place about this being a place of unity and togetherness.....

Hey, everyone needs a kumbaya moment every now and then.

 

[julius]

Dad? Is that you? Uncle? How can all you "conservatives" that "aren't racists" have EXACTLY the same talking points?!?

You are "just curious." "Everyone is equal." "I love everyone." "Why can't we all get along?" Guess what. IT ISN'T ABOUT YOU. You don't get it? Then read or shush up. Or continue on. Just understand, the way you talk is the way "they" talk. And by "they" I mean, the complicit.

I know you must know this but: some words are charged. Some people, usually THE people being defined by these words, don't like them and prefer they not be attached to them. They are never the majority and deserve the respect not to have to wear labels they don't like. Some groups, like Native Americans (I incidentally have a Native American friend who calls herself and others "Indians," although many find it offensive. So what? SHE ISN'T EVERYONE!) have little to no voice, and therefore have to endure continued abuse. For example, the Redskins is a fucked name; it should be changed. The Indians is less fucked, but fucked nevertheless and should be changed. And it goes on...

The point is mind your own business. A constantly evolving vocabulary can be confusing, but it isn't up to you (or all your black "friends") to say what offends people that AREN'T YOU. I also think, it is healthy not to sink into the cement of "knowing things" about other groups anyhow. Walk up to most any African American and ask what "the talk" is and they'll tell you it's when you tell your kids how to survive when they inevitably have an interaction with the police. Ask a white American the same thing and they'll giggle and say "the birds and the bees." If that isn't a stark enough contrast, I don't know what is.

As I tell my kids (and I'm paraphrasing here): it's better to admit you don't know something, than talk out of your fucking ass.

I remember a teacher I had in middle school, basically pointing out a similar viewpoint. Even to the point of referencing the similar, coded, language that people use to load the questions. It may not be intentional, and in some cases, be genuine. But it's passing on a loaded ideal.

She was also the same one who said that your first impression/reaction tends to be your true self.

I.e., Drew Brees initial reaction was basically his true self, and his subsequent responses are all spin/damage control.

She was quite a brilliant teacher. Way ahead of her time, that's for sure.

 

[Minstrel]

I.e., Drew Brees initial reaction was basically his true self, and his subsequent responses are all spin/damage control.

I think that's entirely possible and certainly his initial reaction was a true expression of how he felt. On the other hand, I've seen people who started with a limited worldview espouse some pretty shitty things that they had never questioned before, suddenly get blowback from people they like or respect and then actually reconsider what they thought they knew. If the only criticism Brees had received was from outside voices on Twitter, I'd be pretty certain that his responses would all be damage control. But he got sharp criticisms from teammates, teammates he's probably friends with and respects--it wouldn't surprise me if he really did reconsider, at least a little. It also wouldn't surprise me if he didn't reconsider at all and it was just damage control.

 

[julius]

I think that's entirely possible and certainly his initial reaction was a true expression of how he felt. On the other hand, I've seen people who started with a limited worldview espouse some pretty shitty things that they had never questioned before, suddenly get blowback from people they like or respect and then actually reconsider what they thought they knew. If the only criticism Brees had received was from outside voices on Twitter, I'd be pretty certain that his responses would all be damage control. But he got sharp criticisms from teammates, teammates he's probably friends with and respects--it wouldn't surprise me if he really did reconsider, at least a little. It also wouldn't surprise me if he didn't reconsider at all and it was just damage control.

I think the difference is, if you go "oops, I misspoke. I should have said xyz" vs "it has been brought to my attention that my words may have offended some, and for that I am sorry".

One takes ownership of the issue, the other is passive.

 

[stampedehero]

They had been that way for years. They were worse in the 70's.

 

[crandc]

Amen, bro. Although, in some strange way, I do care for everyone in here. There's a certain, ahem, camaraderie among the ranks.....despite some of our glaring differences

And a one-a, and a two-a......

How do you say what the world needs is live and support Trump, most hateful person ever to hold the presidency? Abraham, Martin and John, and Bobby, tried to find the good in people, Trump appeals to and promotes the worst in people.