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I just examined some data:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duranke01/gamelog/2018

I looked at if any teams had multiple games during the regular season where Durant had a negative +/-

Only three teams did this: Portland, OKC, Utah

The Portland ones he still scored 40+ points each game and with OKC and Utah, they held him somewhat in check. So if we do trade for someone, it should be someone from OKC or Utah that could guard Durant.

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bradk8605 said:
I just examined some data:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duranke01/gamelog/2018

I looked at if any teams had multiple games during the regular season where Durant had a negative +/-

Only three teams did this: Portland, OKC, Utah

The Portland ones he still scored 40+ points each game and with OKC and Utah, they held him somewhat in check. So if we do trade for someone, it should be someone from OKC or Utah that could guard Durant.

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Defense especially in the NBA is a team thing. You have to have good defenders obviously but, you have to good schemes, communication, chemistry, and effort from all 5 guys. You can’t guard great offensive players in the nba on an island.
 
One guy rarely if ever mentioned; Andrew Wiggins. There are reports that Butler has issues with him, etc. He’s overpaid. He’s also got a poison pill contract that makes a trade tough.

BUT

I think Wiggins would like Portland and I think Stotts/Dame would be good for him. Thibs is an awful fit for a guy like Wiggins. Butler ain’t much of a leader either.

Wiggins and Dieng for Turner and Aminus expiring works, as long as we bring in a third team (Dallas) to take Leonard in exchange for our pick. Thibs loves Turner and Aminu fits what he likes as well and is an expiring.

Wiggins ain’t perfect but I feel like Portland would get the best out of him. When he’s on he’s a perfect third piece.
 
Scalma said:
Isn’t he a FA
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He's RFA but I don't think Milwaukee are matching a max offer if he gets one, and he probably will get one from Sacramento, Atlanta, Chicago or Dallas.
 
Scalma said:
One guy rarely if ever mentioned; Andrew Wiggins. There are reports that Butler has issues with him, etc. He’s overpaid. He’s also got a poison pill contract that makes a trade tough.

BUT

I think Wiggins would like Portland and I think Stotts/Dame would be good for him. Thibs is an awful fit for a guy like Wiggins. Butler ain’t much of a leader either.

Wiggins and Dieng for Turner and Aminus expiring works, as long as we bring in a third team (Dallas) to take Leonard in exchange for our pick. Thibs loves Turner and Aminu fits what he likes as well and is an expiring.

Wiggins ain’t perfect but I feel like Portland would get the best out of him. When he’s on he’s a perfect third piece.
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Minnesota isn't trading Wiggins for Turner and an expiring.. he may not have a ton of value, but still.
 
BonesJones said:
Minnesota isn't trading Wiggins for Turner and an expiring.. he may not have a ton of value, but still.
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I think it's not that far fetched that they will try to dump him at some point. He's going to make:

2019: $25.3M
2020: $27.3M
2021: $29.3M
2022: $31.3M
2023: $33.3M

That's a behemoth of a contract and it's not really likely that he will live up to this price.

Turner is terrible but he has just two years left compared to five and Aminu only one. If you don't think Wiggins is going to turn good then that's a fair deal to make and get out of his contract. Problem is they offered him that deal only a few months ago, they must still see something in him or it makes no sense.

If we take Dieng's terrible deal which runs until 2021 and is between $15M and $17.5M each season that's another incentive.
 
Scalma said:
I still think Denver with Faried/14 could be in play on draft night. We know Olshey and Connolly are tight and like dealing with each other, and outside of Dallas, we’re the only team that could take on Faried without sending back any salary on draft night.
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Givony on Zach Lowe's pod said this is unlikely and doesn't believe that Denver would dump a pick just to rid themselves of a 1 yr deal. He said Connely likes the draft too much to do it.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Givony on Zach Lowe's pod said this is unlikely and doesn't believe that Denver would dump a pick just to rid themselves of a 1 yr deal. He said Connely likes the draft too much to do it.
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They'll likely trade down with it. Lots of teams have interest in #14. Ultimately, I think Portland trades #24 or a 2019 1st to get #14 and Faried, and then uses 14 in another deal.
 
If we could be convinced he was moderately healthy, Chandler Parsons seems like an Olshey move. If he could stay on the court that would be great. If Biebs or Turner could be included then it lowers the risk.
 
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We can't use the trade exception in a trade where we send salary out? Is that correct? Does that mean we are limited to this list? Not that it is a terrible list as there are a couple names on there that would be interesting.

90. Tyson Chandler $13,000,000 $13,585,000 $0 $0 $0
90. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $0 $0
92. Eric Gordon $12,943,020 $13,500,375 $14,057,730 $0 $0
93. Kenneth Faried $12,921,348 $13,764,045 $0 $0 $0
93. Thaddeus Young $12,921,348 $13,764,045 $0 $0 $0
 
Reep said:
We can't use the trade exception in a trade where we send salary out? Is that correct? Does that mean we are limited to this list? Not that it is a terrible list as there are a couple names on there that would be interesting.

90. Tyson Chandler $13,000,000 $13,585,000 $0 $0 $0
90. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $0 $0
92. Eric Gordon $12,943,020 $13,500,375 $14,057,730 $0 $0
93. Kenneth Faried $12,921,348 $13,764,045 $0 $0 $0
93. Thaddeus Young $12,921,348 $13,764,045 $0 $0 $0
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We can not send out salary, correct. But there's a lot more than 5 players we can get with it.
 
Looking at the list of players available for TPE, there is no one available that will change Portland’s fortunes... especially for 3x the salary with luxury tax, I just don’t see an attainable player that will make a difference on this team... the only way to improve is to trade CJ
 
Gronk Brady said:
Looking at the list of players available for TPE, there is no one available that will change Portland’s fortunes... especially for 3x the salary with luxury tax, I just don’t see an attainable player that will make a difference on this team... the only way to improve is to trade CJ
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Damn, why didn’t you mention it before?
 
Someway KAT ends up a Blazer. This will be the first step in a rebuild. The last step will be Devin Booker coming over from the Suns after he lets them know he won’t be resigning in 2019 and wants to play with his old UK teammate so they take CJ back for him. You heard it here first.

Oh and somehow NO doesn’t give up Dame in the KAT trade so after the Booker trade we have one of the best 3somes in the league.

All of this is green font btw
 
Gronk Brady said:
Looking at the list of players available for TPE, there is no one available that will change Portland’s fortunes... especially for 3x the salary with luxury tax, I just don’t see an attainable player that will make a difference on this team... the only way to improve is to trade CJ
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And replacing him with Gordon on a TPE! 13M savings
 
Neil spoke about to bring Veteran Players, man i don't know if that's make a difference for us. The peak for this Team is the 2nd Round. I just can't see how Neil can add a difference Maker without Trading CJ, we are stuck in the middle of nowhere, i feel sorry for Lillard
 
Labinot41 said:
Neil spoke about to bring Veteran Players, man i don't know if that's make a difference for us. The peak for this Team is the 2nd Round. I just can't see how Neil can add a difference Maker without Trading CJ, we are stuck in the middle of nowhere, i feel sorry for Lillard
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Yes it’s a very mediocre team. Welcome to purgatory.
 
LayneStaley said:
Yes it’s a very mediocre team. Welcome to purgatory.
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Blazers have been in purgatory for a long time. I wonder sometimes if I am in hell and this is my punishment. Instead of getting poked in the ass with a hot poker I get to watch the mediocre Blazers lose for eternity.
 
Chris Craig said:
Blazers have been in purgatory for a long time. I wonder sometimes if I am in hell and this is my punishment. Instead of getting poked in the ass with a hot poker I get to watch the mediocre Blazers lose for eternity.
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Not a lot of people agree but I’m a proponent of being VERY good or VERY bad, I take zero stock in consecutive 8th seed births or winning one playoff game a year for a decade straight. Give me championships or give me high lottery picks.
 
LayneStaley said:
Not a lot of people agree but I’m a proponent of being VERY good or VERY bad, I take zero stock in consecutive 8th seed births or winning one playoff game a year for a decade straight. Give me championships or give me high lottery picks.
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Give me a championship or give me death.
 
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