Trade Idea Who would realistically be a suitor for Simons or Nurk?

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Ant is a fantastic shooter, and can play anywhere scoring and potential elite shooting is needed. But i don't see him as a starting PG. It's his facilitating i don't buy. Too often he has blinders on to his open teammates. But as a 2 guard he could fit almost with any team. TOR, BKN, NYK , ORL, DAL, MIA , UTH , BOS, HOU, SAS all could use Ant . Many of those teams have assets the Blazers covet. Nurk i find fewer suitors for because he just doesn't bring enough motor consistently. And i think many teams would bench him for it. Dame feeds him the ball early in almost every game. In what i would consider point blank range, in stride , but it's been a crapshoot on him making his shots off passes. Too many times he flips the ball at the hoop carelessly, instead of going up strong through contact, and dunking. It's one reason i think he doesn't get call from the refs. He needs to battle through contact, and understand a tap on the wrist on a flip shot isn't respected whether it's a foul or not. I see many teams not wanting to take the chance. If he was Euros Nurk all the time, we wouldn't be talking about him in trades. I think Nurk would be an upgrade for about 50% of the teams . I put him in the 12 to 14 range of centers. I don't include guys like Siakam as a center ( he's a PF). But there are playoff teams that i feel would be better served by having Nurk because he does have skills. Like Anthony Davis , it's more about his health. Nurk was , again, playing pretty well, then he got that lower leg strain. Pain thresholds vary from player to player. But Nurk hasn't seemed like a guy who brushes a lot of little stuff off. Not talking his big injuries. Teams Nurk is an upgrade IMO are : DAL, LAC, CHA , NYK, LAL (Allowing AD to be a PF only) , MEM, BOS, SAS.


Doesn't Dallas have Christian Wood? Nurk < Wood. Otherwise I like your post and agree with pretty much all of it. I also am not sure it's an upgrade for Boston (the have Robert William III if I remember correctly) and I think SAS may have a starting C next year. ;)
 
Doesn't Dallas have Christian Wood? Nurk < Wood. Otherwise I like your post and agree with pretty much all of it. I also am not sure it's an upgrade for Boston and I think SAS may have a starting C next year. ;)
Wood is a free agent and I doubt he will be back in Dallas.
 
Ah OK. I am gonna go out on a limb and say SAS might see Wemby as a potential starter at Center next season.
Durant played SG as a rookie, sounds like Wemba will play PF so he doesn't have to bang inside. Even if he plays some at center it's very possible there is enough minutes for both.

But I think Spurs might want a big veteran center to protect Wemba from banging against physical centers more than any concern of Nurks impact to the teams wins.
 
Durant played SG as a rookie, sounds like Wemba will play PF so he doesn't have to bang inside. Even if he plays some at center it's very possible there is enough minutes for both.

But I think Spurs might want a big veteran center to protect Wemba from banging against physical centers more than any concern of Nurks impact to the teams wins.
Interesting. They do love Twin Towers down Tey-Ha way.
 
Wood is also fools gold man. He has been dumped by three teams in three years. He's a headcase and he only looks good on a box score.
Yeah, he was nothing and then he was very good and then ... he just can't seem to stick.

I dunno what's wrong with him, but there must be something.
 
Would you trade Ant + Nurk for KAT? No picks involved.

Minnesota is about to be in a ridiculous bind financially with Edwards' extension coming and KAT/Rudy earning 100 mil just by themselves. Simons could give them some breathing room and a PG to pair with Edwards for the near future.

And now if you want to get real creative, you send #3 and 23 to BK for Bridges and get wild.

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I think with the right backup C and Thybulle back, you have a title contender next year.

Dame
Sharpe
Bridges
Grant
KAT

Good lord, that offensive talent would be immense.
 
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Would you trade Ant + Nurk for KAT? No picks involved.

Minnesota is about to be in a ridiculous bind financially with Edwards' extension coming and KAT/Rudy earning 100 mil just by themselves. Simons could give them some breathing room and a PG to pair with Edwards for the near future.

And now if you want to get real creative, you send #3 and 23 to BK for Bridges and get wild.

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I think with the right backup C and Thybulle back, you have a title contender next year.

Dame
Sharpe
Bridges
Grant
KAT

Good lord, that offensive talent would be immense.

That salary of the starting lineup......
 
Would you trade Ant + Nurk for KAT? No picks involved.

Minnesota is about to be in a ridiculous bind financially with Edwards' extension coming and KAT/Rudy earning 100 mil just by themselves. Simons could give them some breathing room and a PG to pair with Edwards for the near future.

And now if you want to get real creative, you send #3 and 23 to BK for Bridges and get wild.

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I think with the right backup C and Thybulle back, you have a title contender next year.

Dame
Sharpe
Bridges
Grant
KAT

Good lord, that offensive talent would be immense.

I'd do Ant and Nurk for KAT if we don't bring another veteran starter in. Kind of lets us try a new win now star duo with Dame but we keep all our youth.

I would not do a Brown or Bridges type trade with this though, that's too much youth we give up to win now and a lot of risk KAT won't help the team win now. But we lost that future upside.
 
I honestly have no idea what Ant's value is right now.

In the past, a guy his age who could do what he does would be worth a lot more.
 
I honestly have no idea what Ant's value is right now.

In the past, a guy his age who could do what he does would be worth a lot more.

Yeah its hard to know how NBA GM's value Ant. Even on this board you have some Ant fans that really want to keep him and others that seemingly would cut him for close to nothing viewing it as addition by subtraction. I think now that Sharpe is here Ant is no longer the young franchise player of the future that some viewed him as last year or prior. Also some Blazer fans might view him as less useful while Dame is here and/or they're just Dame fanatics with blinders for other talents. Although those last points really only impact his perceived value on this board and shouldn't impact how other GM's view him around the league.

I'd give up Ant if it gets us realistically closer to contend or some very nice long term assets. However in general I would prefer to not ship him out because I feel like he still has upside to be one of the leagues elite scorers, and thus we'd be selling low by trading him now.
 
Yeah its hard to know how NBA GM's value Ant. Even on this board you have some Ant fans that really want to keep him and others that seemingly would cut him for close to nothing viewing it as addition by subtraction. I think now that Sharpe is here Ant is no longer the young franchise player of the future that some viewed him as last year or prior. Also some Blazer fans might view him as less useful while Dame is here and/or they're just Dame fanatics with blinders for other talents. Although those last points really only impact his perceived value on this board and shouldn't impact how other GM's view him around the league.

I'd give up Ant if it gets us realistically closer to contend or some very nice long term assets. However in general I would prefer to not ship him out because I feel like he still has upside to be one of the leagues elite scorers, and thus we'd be selling low by trading him now.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-top-25-players-under-25-rankings-2022-23/
 
I'd give up Ant if it gets us realistically closer to contending or some very nice long-term assets. However in general I would prefer to not ship him out because I feel like he still has upside to be one of the league's elite scorers, and thus we'd be selling low by trading him now.

I agree with you. I don't think Ant has peaked. If I had to bet, I would say he will be more consistent this year. Just staying healthy will help compared to last year. So as you allude to, his value will probably increase as long as he is getting 25+ minutes per game.
 
Stop the KAT trade idea's now please I am begging ya he is a taller version of Grant and he would not make the defense any better so NEXT .....
 
I still think a trade that makes sense for both teams is Ayton for Nurk, Ant and maybe a future 1st. Then either use the #3 draft pick on Bridges or keep it. Personally prefer to keep it draft Scoot or Miller.

Dame
Sharpe
Bridges/Scoot or Miller
Grant
Ayton

Gives you chance to win now but also gives you a future with potential of a couple of guys who could turn into all stars. If Sharpe or Scoot/Miller/Bridges turns into stars then we become a damn good team


Phoenix benefits by getting depth replace Ayton with Nurk and now a good young point guard of the future in Ant. Plus a future draft pick (prefer not to but think Phoenix will demand it)
 
I still think a trade that makes sense for both teams is Ayton for Nurk, Ant and maybe a future 1st. Then either use the #3 draft pick on Bridges or keep it. Personally prefer to keep it draft Scoot or Miller.

Dame
Sharpe
Bridges/Scoot or Miller
Grant
Ayton

Gives you chance to win now but also gives you a future with potential of a couple of guys who could turn into all stars. If Sharpe or Scoot/Miller/Bridges turns into stars then we become a damn good team


Phoenix benefits by getting depth replace Ayton with Nurk and now a good young point guard of the future in Ant. Plus a future draft pick (prefer not to but think Phoenix will demand it)

I'd maybe give up Nurk and parts for Ayton if the Blazers don't add a highly paid player - but no I'm not sending out Ant. Ayton has terrible work ethic, probably the most important trait for success in the NBA. Combine that with overpaid, and it has a history of not looking good at all.

If Blazers can get Bridges the center they should look for is Claxton. He's way better than Ayton and paid way less.
 
Christian Wood was very good for the Mavs when he got 30 min. or more
Yeah its hard to know how NBA GM's value Ant. Even on this board you have some Ant fans that really want to keep him and others that seemingly would cut him for close to nothing viewing it as addition by subtraction. I think now that Sharpe is here Ant is no longer the young franchise player of the future that some viewed him as last year or prior. Also some Blazer fans might view him as less useful while Dame is here and/or they're just Dame fanatics with blinders for other talents. Although those last points really only impact his perceived value on this board and shouldn't impact how other GM's view him around the league.

I'd give up Ant if it gets us realistically closer to contend or some very nice long term assets. However in general I would prefer to not ship him out because I feel like he still has upside to be one of the leagues elite scorers, and thus we'd be selling low by trading him now.
I haven't seen any "Others" that would send Ant out for basically nothing. I think Ant is a very good , and potentially , elite type shooter. So far, he's been a so-so facilitator . His salary & ability makes it necessary to deal him to get a top talent back. That's what i've seen in here. Hey, as a potential 6th man talent, who can light it up off the bench like a Jamal Crawford or Lou Williams i'm all in. But you aren't going to get Filet Mignon with a cheese sandwich. I read the other day where the Blazers could have had Aaron Gordon for Ant, but Neil wouldn't do it. Gordon's been a big part of what they've accomplished this year. If Joe can add a top notch talent at a needed position for Ant now, i believe he will engage.
 
Keep Ant. Draft Scoot at 3. Trade Nurk for DeRozan;

PDX DeRozan, Charles Bassey, 2024 pick back from Chicago
SAS Nurk
CHI Zach Collins, Knox, Keon, #23, 2026 Blazers pick top4 protected, $15 mil cap savings

Sign Naz Reid with MLE

Dame - Scoot
Ant - Sharpe
DeRozan - Thybulle
Grant - Watford
Reid - Bassey - Eubanks

Super deep team with a second unit that can run, nice mix of youth and vets.
 
Keep Ant. Draft Scoot at 3. Trade for DeRozan;

PDX DeRozan, Charles Bassey, 2024 pick back from Chicago
SAS Nurk
CHI Zach Collins, Knox, Keon, #23, 2026 Blazers pick top4 protected, $15 mil cap savings

Sign Naz Reid with MLE

Dame - Scoot
Ant - Sharpe
DeRozan - Thybulle
Grant - Watford
Reid - Bassey - Eubanks

Super deep team with a second unit that can run, nice mix of youth and vets.
I’m going to be extremely unhappy if we are going into next season with Simons at shooting guard.
 
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