Wiggins for Love or Aldridge?

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cmeese47 said:
I have never seen LA get 20 FTA's is a single game so Wiggins is off to a great start.
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He has gotten 19 before. Close enough for a big man not considered a super star.
 
cmeese47 said:
I have never seen LA get 20 FTA's is a single game so Wiggins is off to a great start.
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This is silly... When a player is super athletic... and can't throw a rock in the ocean of course they're going to get free throw attempts....

40% from the field 15% from three against summer league competition...

Tyreke Evans also shot 40% in summer league btw. Can't find his 3ball %... granted I didn't look very hard. But being Evans is a career 26.8% shooter from distance... highly doubt it was much higher than Wiggins.
Point is players who can shoot won't get as many free throws as players who can't shoot. Especially at the Guard position.

http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2014/players/sl_andrew_wiggins/
 
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BlazerCaravan said:
FTA's in one game is not an indicator of overall player quality; Travis Outlaw once shot 20 FT's as a Blazer.
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Bayless was summer league MVP. Mostly by getting to the line. It did not equate to the regular season because he never got the same calls.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Bayless was summer league MVP. Mostly by getting to the line. It did not equate to the regular season because he never got the same calls.
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Wiggins is a number overall pick, super hyped and on the same team as Lebron he will get some calls.

BTW I simply said Wiggins was off to a good start.
 
Cleveland needs to be careful but I would wait this out. If Golden State is set on the idea of not moving Thompson, they cant put together a better package than Golden State and that includes one without Wiggins. Bennett, Thompson and a couple #1's should suffice. And then if they are desperate, you may not need to move Bennett.

LA isn't going to be moved. They franchise has rested it's fate on he and Lillard. Let's see if it pays off.
 
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cmeese47 said:
I have never seen LA get 20 FTA's is a single game so Wiggins is off to a great start.
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16/19. tons of 14 fts in a game, multiple 10 ft's a game. 20 ft's a game are for marketable players, not necessarily good players. But, I don't expect you to understand that. You don't research before you talk.
 
OneLifeToLive said:
Cleveland needs to be careful but I would wait this out. If Golden State is set on the idea of not moving Thompson, they cant put together a better package than Golden State and that includes one without Wiggins. Bennett, Thompson and a couple #1's should suffice. And then if they are desperate, you may not need to move Bennett.

LA isn't going to be moved. They franchise has rested it's fate on he and Lillard. Let's see if it pays off.
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Your right LA isn't going to be moved but Aldridge for Anderson Varejao, Andrew Wiggins, Tristan Thompson and next years #1 pick is a bit tempting.
 
Strenuus said:
For the record, I'd like to also point out that James Harden averaged 10.2 FTA per game in 2012/2013... and only got to 20 FTs in a game once, against Charlotte.

So, you know, there's that.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hardeja01/gamelog/2013/
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Thanks for the reference.

LA did have 19 in a game last year he also had 17, 14 and 10 twice. That is it 5 games out of 69. He had 17 games with 2 fta's or less.

I am not saying Wiggins is better than LA but watching him get 20 FTA's even in summer league is impressive. He has shown an ability to be aggressive and play hard something people were not 100% convinced of after watching him in college last year.

Wiggins already looks like a more athletic version of Demar Derozan
 
cmeese47 said:
Thanks for the reference.

LA did have 19 in a game last year he also had 17, 14 and 10 twice. That is it 5 games out of 69. He had 17 games with 2 fta's or less.

I am not saying Wiggins is better than LA but watching him get 20 FTA's even in summer league is impressive. He has shown an ability to be aggressive and play hard something people were not 100% convinced of after watching him in college last year.

Wiggins already looks like a more athletic version of Demar Derozan
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My point in bringing Harden into this is that 20 FTA's is RARE. Harden LIVES at the line with phantom foul after phantom foul, and could only muster 20 once, even with 10 fta's per game average.

And until Wiggins plays an NBA game (Summer league is less than D-league), then the comparisons can't happen, IMO.
 
cmeese47 said:
Thanks for the reference.

LA did have 19 in a game last year he also had 17, 14 and 10 twice. That is it 5 games out of 69. He had 17 games with 2 fta's or less.

I am not saying Wiggins is better than LA but watching him get 20 FTA's even in summer league is impressive. He has shown an ability to be aggressive and play hard something people were not 100% convinced of after watching him in college last year.

Wiggins already looks like a more athletic version of Demar Derozan
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Lmao! Wasn't Webster the summer league MVP once?! That should tell you how telling it is for someone to try and use it for a measuring stick
 
magnifier661 said:
Lmao! Wasn't Webster the summer league MVP once?! That should tell you how telling it is for someone to try and use it for a measuring stick
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Lillard was summer league MVP and that worked out just fine.
 
cmeese47 said:
Lillard was summer league MVP and that worked out just fine.
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No all that told us was he is a fine player. But if you tried using summer league stats by Lillard to compare him to, let's see, Conley Jr, you would have gotten laughed at.

Get the point?!
 
Wiggins and Monroe vs Alridge, I am fairly certain that if Portland were to move LA for Wiggins and pieces they could get enough back to entice the Pistons to sign and trade Monroe.

Does locking up Wiggins 8 years and Monroe 4-5 yrs make more sense than gambling on LA willingly resigning next summer?

It seems like it to me.
 
cmeese47 said:
Wiggins and Monroe vs Alridge, I am fairly certain that if Portland were to move LA for Wiggins and pieces they could get enough back to entice the Pistons to sign and trade Monroe.

Does locking up Wiggins 8 years and Monroe 4-5 yrs make more sense than gambling on LA willingly resigning next summer?

It seems like it to me.
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Gambling? More like playing poker. If you are going to use words like "gambling" then you need something to back up the cheesy claim.

Let's not talk about "what if Aldridge doesn't re-sign" and just talk about the intangibles like talent for talent or potential.

Personally, if you could turn Aldridge and Matthews into Wiggins, Thompson and Monroe, then you would have to really consider.

You would definitely take a step back, but the potential is much great than the sum of the two parts you just sent out.
 
magnifier661 said:
Personally, if you could turn Aldridge and Matthews into Wiggins, Thompson and Monroe, then you would have to really consider.

You would definitely take a step back, but the potential is much great than the sum of the two parts you just sent out.
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I don't think that step back would necessarily be "definite" at all. And I don't think I'd want Thompson back in that scenario anyway.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I don't think that step back would necessarily be "definite" at all. And I don't think I'd want Thompson back in that scenario anyway.
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Agreed - I don't see that being a step back at any point during the next 8 years. That team would be at least as good as last year's team.
Oh what (maybe) could have been...
 
magnifier661 said:
Gambling? More like playing poker. If you are going to use words like "gambling" then you need something to back up the cheesy claim.

Let's not talk about "what if Aldridge doesn't re-sign" and just talk about the intangibles like talent for talent or potential.

Personally, if you could turn Aldridge and Matthews into Wiggins, Thompson and Monroe, then you would have to really consider.

You would definitely take a step back, but the potential is much great than the sum of the two parts you just sent out.
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Thompson would not be needed here with Monroe in tow. Kaman Lopez Monroe and TRob is more than sufficient.
Furthermore, I am not sure Matthews would have to be included either Thompson, Waiters and a pick should be more than enough incentive to do a sign and trade.
 
A trade that would send Kevin Love to the Cleveland Cavaliers is “done,” WMTW Channel 8 Portland sports anchor Travis Lee tweeted Tuesday, citing a “trusted source in the industry.” If true, this wouldn’t be completely shocking news, since Love has been connected in trade rumors with the Cavs for weeks, but it would still be a major development.

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2014/07/report-kevin-love-trade-to-cavaliers-deal-is-done-no-timetable-given/
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
A trade that would send Kevin Love to the Cleveland Cavaliers is “done,” WMTW Channel 8 Portland sports anchor Travis Lee tweeted Tuesday, citing a “trusted source in the industry.” If true, this wouldn’t be completely shocking news, since Love has been connected in trade rumors with the Cavs for weeks, but it would still be a major development.

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2014/07/report-kevin-love-trade-to-cavaliers-deal-is-done-no-timetable-given/
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I totally buy that a random sports anchor from Maine got the scoop over everyone else.
 
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