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blazerfan11 said:
I agree with all that, except I would not trade the 7th pick for OG. The good and the bad of the draft is the unknown upside and downside. We have to take the risk for the upside.
And I can't just ignore this report from April 3rd:

"The 24-year-old forward will miss Kyle Lowry's return to Toronto due to a thigh injury he suffered in Friday night's game against the Orlando Magic, Raptors coach Nick Nurse said pre-game.
It's a new injury for Anunoby who has missed 30 games this season due to various injuries including a fracture in his right hand that has yet to fully heal. Prior to that, Anunoby was sidelined due to Health & Safety Protocols."
"Various injuries?" Fractured finger. Thigh injury. Calf strain. Hip injury.


Should the Raptors be worried about OG Anunoby’s injury history?

https://raptorsrapture.com/2022/03/07/raptors-worried-og-anunoby-injury-history/
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That sounds like a good reason to lowball the Raptors. No to #7
 
So mystery man Shaedon Sharpe is working out with Detroit sometime next week. Finally some news about this guy. Given the silence around him, I was convinced he had a promise from SAC. Guess not.
 
Personally, I wish the league would grow a pair and require players to take part in the measurement/physical exam part of the combine. When agents are allowed to control the process the league and the fans will inevitably lose.
 
BankTeller said:
That certainly is bold. The only way I see Banchero working is if Dame is traded (meaning we do a complete overhaul, at which point trading up for Banchero would make sense) or finding a new starting C. Nurkic just doesn’t work with Banchero imo.

Nurkic sat out the remaining games of the season eventually. I’d assume it’s because they’ve come to an agreement on a new contract.

Yeah, with Dame/Ant/____/Banchero/Nurk, idk how it all fits. Bamba in place of Nurk though, and I’m a lot more interested.
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I think offensively banchero and Nurk would do fine together. Banchero is a good 3 point shooter, but I can see potential defensive issues with them and dame/ant in the backcourt
 
oldmangrouch said:
Personally, I wish the league would grow a pair and require players to take part in the measurement/physical exam part of the combine. When agents are allowed to control the process the league and the fans will inevitably lose.
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NbaPA would never agree to this. It's essentially similar to players ducking workouts and hiding medicals from some teams and not others. Hell, even Evan Mobley avoided working out for Houston last yr.
 
wizenheimer said:
I'm not criticizing you with this:

I really don't like the height 'in-shoes' gauge because it can be deceptive. And it's so simple to compare w/o shoes, providing the player and his agent didn't chicken-out of being measured:

Ochai Agbaji 6' 4.50''
Paolo Banchero (chicken)
Kofi Cockburn 6' 11.00''
Dyson Daniels 6' 6.00''
Johnny Davis 6' 4.25''
Ousmane Dieng (chicken)
Jalen Duren (chicken)
Tari Eason 6' 6.75''
AJ Griffin (chicken)
Chet Holmgren (chicken)
Jaden Ivey (chicken)
Nikola Jovic 6' 9.50''
Bennedict Mathurin 6' 4.50''
Keegan Murray (chicken)
Shaedon Sharpe 6' 4.25''
Jabari Smith (chicken)
Jeremy Sochan (chicken)
Mark Williams 7' 0.00''
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I think you can see the question marks next to Sochan and Murray's heights. Meaning their measurements are unknown, both barefoot or in shoes. The height-in-shoes numbers given for Daniels and Mathurin are simply their recent barefoot measurements plus 1.5 inches, so I don't think there is any reason to say those numbers are deceptive.
 
blazerfan11 said:
I think you can see the question marks next to Sochan and Murray's heights. Meaning their measurements are unknown, both barefoot or in shoes. The height-in-shoes numbers given for Daniels and Mathurin are simply their recent barefoot measurements plus 1.5 inches, so I don't think there is any reason to say those numbers are deceptive.
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I didn't say they were "deceptive". What I am saying is that I have seen 'in-shoes' measurements turn a 6'3 guard into a 6'5.25 guard; and a 6'6.5 forward into a 6'9 forward. In shoes measurements are terrible gauges for player comparisons
 
illmatic99 said:
NbaPA would never agree to this. It's essentially similar to players ducking workouts and hiding medicals from some teams and not others. Hell, even Evan Mobley avoided working out for Houston last yr.
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smart man...
 
Nikola Jovic has got great size and it looks like basketball skills. Would love to find a way to get him.
 
Dame just followed Dyson Daniels.

To recap, he now follows three draft prospects:

*Keegan
*Dyson
*Griffin Jr.



:bwpopcorn:
 
oldmangrouch said:
From what I have read, Daniels sounds like the 2nd coming of Evan Turner. Hard pass!
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His D looks strong for a young guy. Smart. Quick decisions.
Unlike ET, he doesn’t pound the rock and isn’t allergic to taking 3s.
The draft stock rising should always be questioned. Really like how he plays.
 
Fez Forthright said:
Dame just followed Dyson Daniels.

To recap, he now follows three draft prospects:

*Keegan
*Dyson
*Griffin Jr.



:bwpopcorn:
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He came in for a workout and talked with him. Probably did a courtesy follow. Makes sense. Nothing to look into.
 
blazerfan11 said:
Notice how there is no mention of defense.
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He would not be my first choice at 7, but the articles I have read say his defensive potential is quite high. I imagine that his 7' wing span helps with that assessment.

I realize there are other red flags for this guy, but if he has the size and athletic ability to play defense, then it
can be taught with the right coaching. I wouldn't rule out an 18-year-old based on his defense in one year of college.
 
This is my prediction (1-6 are not in exact order):
Smith Jr.
Holmgren
Banchero
Ivey
Sharpe
Murray
If those are the first 6 picks, then the #7 pick for the Blazers is Benedict Mathurin. If one of those first 6 picks drops to 7, the Blazers will take that guy.
Mathurin can be explosive on offense and is a proven 3-point shooter. He has some lapses on defense, but I think that's correctible. He's 1.5 inches shorter than Daniels, but should be able to play the SF position at 6'6" in shoes.
So this is who I think the top 7 picks will be (not necessarily in this order):
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Pinwheel1 said:
He would not be my first choice at 7, but the articles I have read say his defensive potential is quite high. I imagine that his 7' wing span helps with that assessment.

I realize there are other red flags for this guy, but if he has the size and athletic ability to play defense, then it
can be taught with the right coaching. I wouldn't rule out an 18-year-old based on his defense in one year of college.
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He could very well end up being a steal in the draft. New Orleans might pick him at #8 if Benedict Mathurin is already gone. If Zion gets healthy having a 3-point shooter like Griffin would be very tough on the defense.
 

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I did not know that Sharpe posted a 49" vertical at the combine. I can see why that and his near 7' wing have teams leery of passing on him.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I did not know that Sharpe posted a 49" vertical at the combine. I can see why that and his near 7' wing have teams leery of passing on him.
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how does that compare to Anthony Edwards?
 
Murray could drop, which i see as totally possible due to the fact Detroit needs a 2G the most, and Mathurin or Ivey are fantastic talents. Sactown is the one wildcard IMO. They could draft Keegan, and move Barnes, but they're gonna have to sweeten a deal to move Barnes with that contract. My pick at 7 is Murray. He's ready . But my wildcard for the Blazers is Benedict Mathurin, who they're working out today. I see a lot of Jordan in him. Not saying he's MJ, but many teams are going to wish they didn't pass on him. The Blazers, in turn, could move Ant in a sign & trade to Atlanta in trade for John Collins, if Murray is gone by pick 6. Hawks want a top notch facilitator playing beside Young. So he can work off the ball, and take less punishment.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I did not know that Sharpe posted a 49" vertical at the combine. I can see why that and his near 7' wing have teams leery of passing on him.
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If he was still on the board assuming Smith, Banchero and Keegan were already gone I think you have to take him.
 
Freshtown said:
how does that compare to Anthony Edwards?
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Vertical Leap? That is 8" higher than Edwards. I believe Sharpe broke the records from last year. (Keon Johnson had a 48" VL)
He also has about a 3" longer wing span than Edwards.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I did not know that Sharpe posted a 49" vertical at the combine. I can see why that and his near 7' wing have teams leery of passing on him.
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For sure. The question is if someone's job is on the line, will they 1) gamble that Sharpe's physical skills directly translate to scoring etc. 2) be willing to wait a few years when a prospect like Ben Mathurin is probably one year
Freshtown said:
how does that compare to Anthony Edwards?
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I think the comparison is what they think Sharpe will look like when he's actually playing on the court. Being a big guard but not really the need (because he can shoot over them) or quickness to blow by people, he'll take a couple dribbles and let a 3 pointer fly. If there is an opening to the hoop he'll take advantage of that. Keon Johnson was a big leaper too but we really didn't see it on offense very much. Being able to make 3-pointers is much more important.
 
Freshtown said:
how does that compare to Anthony Edwards?
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the edwards comp came straight from mike schmitz's mouth after he watched Sharpe in person at a UK practice. but he also couched it by saying some guys are amazing in practices but their games don't translate to real games which makes projecting sharpe's future in the NBA very difficult.
 
blazerfan11 said:
For sure. The question is if someone's job is on the line, will they 1) gamble that Sharpe's physical skills directly translate to scoring etc. 2) be willing to wait a few years when a prospect like Ben Mathurin is probably one year

I think the comparison is what they think Sharpe will look like when he's actually playing on the court. Being a big guard but not really the need (because he can shoot over them) or quickness to blow by people, he'll take a couple dribbles and let a 3 pointer fly. If there is an opening to the hoop he'll take advantage of that. Keon Johnson was a big leaper too but we really didn't see it on offense very much. Being able to make 3-pointers is much more important.
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True the 3-ball is more important, but then again Sharpe is a lot longer. Keon is a leaper but with only a 6'7" wing span. That is less than Dame's. Sharpe's is 6'11 1/2. That will help in attacking the basket.
 
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