Zach Collins is ready

[Destroyer of Worlds]

-We need scoring and playmaking off the bench.
-Dame doesn't have to play the entire 1st quarter every night.
-CJ doesnt have to play both SG and PG.
-We wouldn't automatically just lose if CJ or Dame are having a bad night or injured.
-It doesn't matter how you twist it, Dame knows Olshey failed to put another potential all-star next to him. I'm sure that Sam Presti made a lot of sense when he explained to Durant why he had to let Harden go.

Never said Dame had to.
Never said CJ had to, although you now want to reduce CJs minutes in order to play D Mitch.
So you want to reduce Dame & CJs minutes in order to get D Mitch minutes at the 1&2. We need players that can play WITH our best players, not take them out of the game.

Uh, your last point might be the worst of them all.

If Durant was 6’4, Harden was 6’4, and Westbrook was 6’4, Presti would make a ton of sense telling KD

‘Realistically, we cant start 3 players shorter than 6’6 and play all of you 30+ minutes a night. More importantly, in crunch time, there is no way they could defend playoff teams. So, it’s in our best interest to part with one of you shorties, in order to address a team need, such as SF or at the time, PF.’

This really shouldn’t be that difficult. Adding another guard, to reduce minutes played by Dame & CJ doesn’t make us better, unless said guard can somehow effectively guard SFs, such as Giannis, Durant, LeBron and play 30+ minutes a night.

D Mitch isn’t doing that. The only argument is making CJ expendable to address that need.

 

[Destroyer of Worlds]

-We need scoring and playmaking off the bench.
-Dame doesn't have to play the entire 1st quarter every night.
-CJ doesnt have to play both SG and PG.
-We wouldn't automatically just lose if CJ or Dame are having a bad night or injured.
-It doesn't matter how you twist it, Dame knows Olshey failed to put another potential all-star next to him. I'm sure that Sam Presti made a lot of sense when he explained to Durant why he had to let Harden go.

Never said Dame had to.
Never said CJ had to, although you now want to reduce CJs minutes in order to play D Mitch.
So you want to reduce Dame & CJs minutes in order to get D Mitch minutes at the 1&2. We need players that can play WITH our best players, not take them out of the game.

Uh, your last point might be the worst of them all.

If Durant was 6’4, Harden was 6’4, and Westbrook was 6’4, Presti would make a ton of sense telling KD

‘Realistically, we cant start 3 players shorter than 6’6 and play all of you 30+ minutes a night. More importantly, in crunch time, there is no way they could defend playoff teams. So, it’s in our best interest to part with one of you shorties, in order to address a team need, such as SF or at the time, PF.’

This really shouldn’t be that difficult. Adding another guard, to reduce minutes played by Dame & CJ doesn’t make us better, unless said guard can somehow effectively guard SFs, such as Giannis, Durant, LeBron and play 30+ minutes a night.

D Mitch isn’t doing that. The only argument is making CJ expendable to address that need.

 

[Blazers Roy]

Never said Dame had to.
Never said CJ had to, although you now want to reduce CJs minutes in order to play D Mitch.
So you want to reduce Dame & CJs minutes in order to get D Mitch minutes at the 1&2. We need players that can play WITH our best players, not take them out of the game.

Uh, your last point might be the worst of them all.

If Durant was 6’4, Harden was 6’4, and Westbrook was 6’4, Presti would make a ton of sense telling KD

‘Realistically, we cant start 3 players shorter than 6’6 and play all of you 30+ minutes a night. More importantly, in crunch time, there is no way they could defend playoff teams. So, it’s in our best interest to part with one of you shorties, in order to address a team need, such as SF or at the time, PF.’

This really shouldn’t be that difficult. Adding another guard, to reduce minutes played by Dame & CJ doesn’t make us better, unless said guard can somehow effectively guard SFs, such as Giannis, Durant, LeBron and play 30+ minutes a night.

D Mitch isn’t doing that. The only argument is making CJ expendable to address that need.

There isn't enough minutes to play all 3 of them?

CJ goes out with ~4 minutes left in the 1st Q -> 4
CJ starts the 2nd Q with Mitch and plays ~5 minutes with him before Dame is back -> 5
Mitch gives CJ ~3 minutes to rest at the end of the 2nd -> 3

So that's around 12 minutes of play in the 1st half alone and i didn't even address Dame's usual grind at the 1st quarter.

Right now both Lillard and CJ are playing 37 minutes each night, their substitutes are Pat and Napier (who doesn't get complete trust from Stotts).

People are expecting Dame and CJ to play 40 minutes each night, run more miles than most players in the league, show consistency and play elite defense on top of it all.

I'm sorry it doesn't work this way.

 

[Scalma]

Love how he always looks pissed off. Stood his ground against Marvin Williams. Looked mad when he gut subbed out. Collins is a killer, wait until his body catches up with his mentality.

 

[jlprk]

Collins has a good aggressive attitude, but it will take 3 years to widen those toothpicks from Victor Claver to Ed Davis. Never mind a Vonleh-like body. Meanwhile, keep repeating those scoring moves in games until he perfects them, and he'll make us forget Doug Collins.

 

[HailBlazers]

Love how he always looks pissed off. Stood his ground against Marvin Williams. Looked mad when he gut subbed out. Collins is a killer, wait until his body catches up with his mentality.

#Dexter

 

[Scalma]

#Dexter

Collins has that vibe

Ps that show sucked

 

[Hobbesarable]

There isn't enough minutes to play all 3 of them?

CJ goes out with ~4 minutes left in the 1st Q -> 4
CJ starts the 2nd Q with Mitch and plays ~5 minutes with him before Dame is back -> 5
Mitch gives CJ ~3 minutes to rest at the end of the 2nd -> 3

So that's around 12 minutes of play in the 1st half alone and i didn't even address Dame's usual grind at the 1st quarter.

Right now both Lillard and CJ are playing 37 minutes each night, their substitutes are Pat and Napier (who doesn't get complete trust from Stotts).

People are expecting Dame and CJ to play 40 minutes each night, run more miles than most players in the league, show consistency and play elite defense on top of it all.

I'm sorry it doesn't work this way.

Additionally, Donovan Mitchell has an incredibly long wingspan coming from a program developing excellent defensive players and he's only playing 30 mpg with the Jazz. I wanted our team to draft him and thereby giving us a very good 3-guard rotation.

 

[KingSpeed]

Additionally, Donovan Mitchell has an incredibly long wingspan coming from a program developing excellent defensive players and he's only playing 30 mpg with the Jazz. I wanted our team to draft him and thereby giving us a very good 3-guard rotation.

Yeah we fucked up

 

[Scalma]

A two way big > a two way guard

Not even close.

There’s not a GM in the league that wouldn’t start their franchise with A instead of B.

 

[Mediocre Man]

A two way big > a two way guard

Not even close.

There’s not a GM in the league that wouldn’t start their franchise with A instead of B.

Today's NBA is won with two way guards

 

[julius]

does two way mean offense and defense?

Not sure I'd say that Curry is a 2 way guard, or Irvin.

Todays NBA is won by having talent at all 5 positions.

A lot of the best players in the league (LeBron, Durant, Leonard) aren't two way guards.

 

[Mediocre Man]

does two way mean offense and defense?

Not sure I'd say that Curry is a 2 way guard, or Irvin.

Todays NBA is won by having talent at all 5 positions.

A lot of the best players in the league (LeBron, Durant, Leonard) aren't two way guards.

They arent two way bigs either.

Wings is probably more accurate.

 

[0-Our!]

He lost that scared rookie look quicker than I expected.

Hey, he's Chuck Fuckin' Norris compared to Mild LeoTARD; just think of how much of a bad ass Zach will be in years to come...

 

[blue9]

A two way big > a two way guard

Not even close.

There’s not a GM in the league that wouldn’t start their franchise with A instead of B.

Um, no. Two-way SGs and SFs have always dominated the league, while two-way PFs have rarely led a team to the Finals.

 

[0-Our!]

HE READY

Zach’s development is the most important thing for our franchise right now. When Nurk comes back he must continue to play.

Trade Davis and/or Leonard.

That should DEFINITELY "AND" on the trading

 

[Scalma]

Um, no. Two-way SGs and SFs have always dominated the league, while two-way PFs have rarely led a team to the Finals.

That’s because the latter is more rare, hence why they’re also more valuable.

Make a list of both. Let’s see which way that swing tips.

 

[julius]

They arent two way bigs either.

Wings is probably more accurate.

That I would agree with. This team could win, if they had a wing that wasn't inconsistent and could create for himself (and defend).

 

[handiman]

Um, no. Two-way SGs and SFs have always dominated the league, while two-way PFs have rarely led a team to the Finals.

Without researching too deeply, I'd say Duncan would argue that point.

 

[blue9]

Without researching too deeply, I'd say Duncan would argue that point.

No he wouldn't. He'd realize that I wrote "two-way PFs rarely led a team to the Finals", and know that "rarely" doesn't mean "never". He'd know that he was one of the rare two-way PFs to do so.

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Karl Malone and Shawn Kemp got to the finals, too.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Meyers and Collins are the Blazers version of Don Jr and Eric Trump.

 

[Pinwheel1]

That I would agree with. This team could win, if they had a wing that wasn't inconsistent and could create for himself (and defend).

This. Too bad there are so few of them.

There are 6 good teams and 24 others. One very good SF and we move up quite a bit in the hierarchy. Of course you can say that about 20 other teams.

 

[julius]

Meyers and Collins are the Blazers version of Don Jr and Eric Trump.

You go to hell.

 

[Mediocre Man]

That I would agree with. This team could win, if they had a wing that wasn't inconsistent and could create for himself (and defend).

It would be huge

 

[Mediocre Man]

Karl Malone and Shawn Kemp got to the finals, too.

And lost to a two way guard

 

[Mediocre Man]

Without researching too deeply, I'd say Duncan would argue that point.

Yes, rarely. Any others?

 

[handiman]

No he wouldn't. He'd realize that I wrote "two-way PFs rarely led a team to the Finals", and know that "rarely" doesn't mean "never". He'd know that he was one of the rare two-way PFs to do so.

Well sure, if you leave out the bulk of the past 20 years, it rarely happens. Well, except for the other guys mentioned like Malone, Kemp, Grant, and McHale, which accounts for much of the preceding 20 years.

And no one even mentioned that KG scrub...

 

[Mediocre Man]

Well sure, if you leave out the bulk of the past 20 years, it rarely happens. Well, except for the other guys mentioned like Malone, Kemp, Grant, and McHale, which accounts for much of the preceding 20 years.

And no one even mentioned that KG scrub...

Was it Malone or Stockton? Kemp or Payton? McHale or Bird? Grant or Pippen? KG or Pierce?

Duncan, James....yes, but even then Parker, Ginobili, Wade, Irving all played HUGE roles

 

[julius]

So it sounds like you're saying they need talent at all 5 spots