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Cool story bro. Unfortunately, you don't get to decide what the word means to other people. If someone who is gay hears you using the word gay as an insult, they may be justifiably offended. Go figure.

BNM
First of all, I don't use the word in front of gay people, I do so in the comfort of close friends rarely. I disagree with the first part you said. People give words too much power. Sure I don't get to decide what the word means to other people but they sure as hell cant dictate how I use it either. It's about context and intent. That's what words are about.
 
So did the word slut.
I mean slut can be used as an endearing term to some women these days, they openly admit that shit while others freak out over it. Not one person shares the same view on each word or it's meaning, it's how you use it
 
I never said I did, I'm saying it has a very different original meaning

When you use it, you use it to disparage another or treat them less than.

You don't use gay or the F word in a positive way at all. It's not about being "politically correct". It's about showing others respect.

I don't use the word Gypped anymore for the same reason.

#growchangeevolve
 
Sure, Fag means bundle of sticks or Cigarette. You toss a fag on the fire or you smoke one. Why is it used to refer to gay people?

Because they used to burn gay people at the stake...

#knowyourhistory
I don't think that's it but at the same time I don't know, interesting theory though
 
When you use it, you use it to disparage another or treat them less than.

You don't use gay or the F word in a positive way at all. It's not about being "politically correct". It's about showing others respect.

I don't use the word Gypped anymore for the same reason.

#growchangeevolve

What is "Gypped?"
 
When you use it, you use it to disparage another or treat them less than.

You don't use gay or the F word in a positive way at all. It's not about being "politically correct". It's about showing others respect.

I don't use the word Gypped anymore for the same reason.

#growchangeevolve
I don't throw certain words around in public and also your hashtags are cute but they don't do shit on a forum

#lol
 
So you're saying that you can tell if a person is or isn't gay just by looking at them?
What? Are you reading anything I'm saying?! I'm saying when and if I use it it's literally just me and the person hanging out. Close people I know
 
What? Are you reading anything I'm saying?! I'm saying when and if I use it it's literally just me and the person hanging out. Close people I know

Who may be uncomfortable coming out to you because you use the words gay and faggot to insult them and call them stupid.

BNM
 
An Open Letter to People Who Still Use ‘Faggot’ as an Insult

By Casey Cavanagh



Justifying your use of these words by saying “I didn’t mean it offensively,” doesn’t make it okay. Not only does it show ignorance, but it also shows a concerning lack of intellect. Yes, context is important.

But it’s the implication behind it that is the problem.

If you are calling someone a faggot or gay, you are still using the term in a condescending, demeaning and often insulting manner. You never say, “This new guy I am dating is so fun and sweet! He always acts like such a faggot.”

“But it’s just a word!” Some people argue that by rejecting the word you could potentially give it more power, making it taboo or more controversial, and that they choose to use it as a means of “reclaiming” it. I am not suggesting you ban these words from your vocabulary; I am suggesting you don’t use them if you are doing so with the intent to insult.

You don’t get to impose your own meaning on words and use them on, or against, other people... at least not while holding the ignorant belief it will go without ridicule — that the context you’re using it in is excusable. You can’t reclaim something without a thorough understanding of where it came from and the problem surrounding it. And the fact that you use it so carelessly leads me to assume you don’t have that thorough understanding.

To you, it may be “just a word.” If so, you are fortunate. A lot more fortunate than others who have a lot of pain and suffering tied to it. Sure, it’s not a big deal to everyone, but just because it doesn’t affect some people doesn’t mean it isn’t your obligation to care about who it may — and why.

The best depiction of the problem with this word, and one that forever changed the way I view it, was a scene from comedian Louis C.K.’s show, Louie. The particular scene is of him and his friends playing poker, poking fun at their gay friend, and asking a number of questions about “gay things.”

Louie asked him if he thought he shouldn’t be using the word “fag” on stage during his routines. His friend responded by saying:

I think you should use whatever words you want. When you use it on stage, I can see it’s funny, and I don’t care. But are you interested in what it might mean to gay men? Well, the word ‘faggot’ really means a bundle of sticks used for kindling in a fire. Now, in the middle ages, when they used to burn people they thought were witches? They used to burn homosexuals, too. And, they used to burn the witches at a stake, but they thought the homosexuals were too low and disgusting to be given a stake to be burnt on, so they used to just throw them in with the kindling, with the other faggots. So that’s how you get ‘flaming faggot.’

... You might wanna know that every gay man in America has probably had that word shouted at them while they’re being beaten up, sometimes many times, sometimes by a lot of people all at once. So, when you say it, it kind of brings that all back up. But, you know, by all means, use it. Get your laughs. But, you know, now you know what it means.

Be responsible. Hold yourself accountable. Pay attention to the words you use, the way you articulate yourself, and be aware of how the things you say may affect people around you. At the very least, take the time to understand the origin of a controversial term you use and the meaning it has for other people in our society before deciding not only whether or not you have the right to say it, but what feeling entitled to do so says about you.

You may not be homophobic. But saying you are “just joking” or only saying it to people who aren’t gay doesn’t absolve you of blame. You may not be able to solve the issue of homophobia in our society. But what you can do it make sure you aren’t — consciously or not — contributing to it
 
How do you know that with 100% certainty?

BNM
As I said, it's only in one on one hang out situations. Jesus Christ everybody in here acting like I toss the word around because I wanna be homophobic and an asshole. No, not at all, I'm far from that but I mean hey it's super Portland to go after the guy with a different view than you.
 
Who in the forum is outraged?



I call BS on this. I'm sure you called your friends gay but you were teasingly calling them homosexual. Gay hasn't been used for happy since before your dad was born.
Reminds me there used to be a clothing chain for men called The Gay Blade, intended to be kind of an Old English meaning. Sold dress clothes, suits, stuff like that. Yeah, they went out of business when the meaning of the word changed from "happy" to "gay". Coincidence? I doubted it at the time. Kind of hard to get a lot of men into your store with a name like that, especially back then.
 
Who may be uncomfortable coming out to you because you use the words gay and faggot to insult them and call them stupid.

BNM
I actually have a close lesbian friend and she doesn't give one shit about all that talk. It's about knowing the person and being on the same page, I mean that's generally why you become close with the people you choose to, right?
 
As I said, it's only in one on one hang out situations. Jesus Christ everybody in here acting like I toss the word around because I wanna be homophobic and an asshole.

I don't think anyone's saying that you're tossing it around because you want to be homophobic. I think most people are saying you don't grasp that it's inherently homophobic, regardless of your intentions.
 
Reminds me there used to be a clothing chain for men called The Gay Blade, intended to be kind of an Old English meaning. Sold dress clothes, suits, stuff like that. Yeah, they went out of business when the meaning of the word changed from "happy" to "gay". Coincidence? I doubted it at the time. Kind of hard to get a lot of men into your store with a name like that, especially back then.

They changed their name to The Blade and were open for many years after that.
 
An Open Letter to People Who Still Use ‘Faggot’ as an Insult

By Casey Cavanagh



Justifying your use of these words by saying “I didn’t mean it offensively,” doesn’t make it okay. Not only does it show ignorance, but it also shows a concerning lack of intellect. Yes, context is important.

But it’s the implication behind it that is the problem.

If you are calling someone a faggot or gay, you are still using the term in a condescending, demeaning and often insulting manner. You never say, “This new guy I am dating is so fun and sweet! He always acts like such a faggot.”

“But it’s just a word!” Some people argue that by rejecting the word you could potentially give it more power, making it taboo or more controversial, and that they choose to use it as a means of “reclaiming” it. I am not suggesting you ban these words from your vocabulary; I am suggesting you don’t use them if you are doing so with the intent to insult.

You don’t get to impose your own meaning on words and use them on, or against, other people... at least not while holding the ignorant belief it will go without ridicule — that the context you’re using it in is excusable. You can’t reclaim something without a thorough understanding of where it came from and the problem surrounding it. And the fact that you use it so carelessly leads me to assume you don’t have that thorough understanding.

To you, it may be “just a word.” If so, you are fortunate. A lot more fortunate than others who have a lot of pain and suffering tied to it. Sure, it’s not a big deal to everyone, but just because it doesn’t affect some people doesn’t mean it isn’t your obligation to care about who it may — and why.

The best depiction of the problem with this word, and one that forever changed the way I view it, was a scene from comedian Louis C.K.’s show, Louie. The particular scene is of him and his friends playing poker, poking fun at their gay friend, and asking a number of questions about “gay things.”

Louie asked him if he thought he shouldn’t be using the word “fag” on stage during his routines. His friend responded by saying:

I think you should use whatever words you want. When you use it on stage, I can see it’s funny, and I don’t care. But are you interested in what it might mean to gay men? Well, the word ‘faggot’ really means a bundle of sticks used for kindling in a fire. Now, in the middle ages, when they used to burn people they thought were witches? They used to burn homosexuals, too. And, they used to burn the witches at a stake, but they thought the homosexuals were too low and disgusting to be given a stake to be burnt on, so they used to just throw them in with the kindling, with the other faggots. So that’s how you get ‘flaming faggot.’

... You might wanna know that every gay man in America has probably had that word shouted at them while they’re being beaten up, sometimes many times, sometimes by a lot of people all at once. So, when you say it, it kind of brings that all back up. But, you know, by all means, use it. Get your laughs. But, you know, now you know what it means.

Be responsible. Hold yourself accountable. Pay attention to the words you use, the way you articulate yourself, and be aware of how the things you say may affect people around you. At the very least, take the time to understand the origin of a controversial term you use and the meaning it has for other people in our society before deciding not only whether or not you have the right to say it, but what feeling entitled to do so says about you.

You may not be homophobic. But saying you are “just joking” or only saying it to people who aren’t gay doesn’t absolve you of blame. You may not be able to solve the issue of homophobia in our society. But what you can do it make sure you aren’t — consciously or not — contributing to it
yeah I get it you're a cool progressive, that's awesome. You're not right, and I'm not either. It's just different views of a word and how it can be used
 
I don't think anyone's saying that you're tossing it around because you want to be homophobic. I think most people are saying you don't grasp that it's inherently homophobic, regardless of your intentions.
Couple people in here sure act like it. It's not homophobic. Same way the N word used how black people say it isn't racist. I mean come on, people here are digging too much
 

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