Zach Edey with the GS pick?

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I say Edey goes at #14... to the Knicks. And we get their two picks in the 20s to take players like Scheierman/Klintman/Djurisic/Missi/Dunn.
 
illmatic99 said:
Ok maybe faster wasnt the right adjective.

But it's more suited for players who aren't slow and plodding because of the varied offensive attacks and fewer postups. Offensive efficiency has skyrocketed and I think will leave players like Edey by the wayside.

Similarly, his limited versatility on defense will make him a prime target for perimeter oriented offenses who have speed/agility at every position.
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Edey isn't any more slow-footed than Jokic, Zubac, Nurk, or Clingan are.
Every single one of these players get targeted. I don't see why it's an issue for Edey, but not others
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
Edey isn't any more slow-footed than Jokic, Zubac, Nurk, or Clingan are.
Every single one of these players get targeted. I don't see why it's an issue for Edey, but not others
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I don't get it either. And Edey has much better size than those. He also seems to have a decent shot, they out wasn't really used in college. It somehow got out into the ether that big men suck unless they can sprint like a guard.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I say Edey goes at #14... to the Knicks. And we get their two picks in the 20s to take players like Scheierman/Klintman/Djurisic/Missi/Dunn.
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Klintman and Scheierman would be interesting. But we're already facing a roster crunch. Not sure if we want to exacerbate that.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
We don't have to be down to 15 until training camp.
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True enough. And maybe a roster cut deadline would be sufficient to actually motivate Cronin to make a trade...
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
Edey isn't any more slow-footed than Jokic, Zubac, Nurk, or Clingan are.
Every single one of these players get targeted. I don't see why it's an issue for Edey, but not others
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I listened to the BS the past four college seasons regarding Edey. Then, last season Clingan wins a title as a freshman and is anointed the next “it” big man. Then in this past title game Edey actually ate Clingan’s lunch and I listened to how Edey is just so much slower than Clingan. Then Edey went to the combine and literally out performed Clingan in everything. Speed, agility, height, reach and wing span. That is when I looked at the other bigs in the NBA and rosters are littered with bigs that are “slow.” Then I’m thinking about how the NBA has the refs letting some of the grabbing and pushing go because the game scores are too high. When that happens, bigs become relevant again. After his combine I came on here and said he is a lotto pick. Now I’m not advocating at 7 as Portland has. Bigger need at forward. But that player, whoever it may be might never have the career of Edey. We know Edey can put the ball in the hoop, rebound and set screens. Meanwhile we are all pondering what exactly players like Williams, Salaun Holland and Buzellis can do.
 
BIG Q said:
I listened to the BS the past four college seasons regarding Edey. Then, last season Clingan wins a title as a freshman and is anointed the next “it” big man. Then in this past title game Edey actually ate Clingan’s lunch and I listened to how Edey is just so much slower than Clingan.
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Clingan's job is not to defend one on one against players like Edey - his job is to defend against entire teams, and he does that. People say the same shit when Jokic gets 40 on Rody Gobert - "so much for Gobert's defense!" Duh - I watched Kenny Lofton Jr. hit layup after layup on Wemby in the U-19 Worlds finals, but that doesn't mean jack.

BIG Q said:
Then Edey went to the combine and literally out performed Clingan in everything. Speed, agility, height, reach and wing span.
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The combine means literally nothing. Gobert fell because he was slow and lumbering in the combine. Meanwhile Jordan Farmar is supposed to be great because he had a 40 inch vertical or whatever. I say again: the combine means nothing.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Clingan's job is not to defend one on one against players like Edey - his job is to defend against entire teams, and he does that. People say the same shit when Jokic gets 40 on Rody Gobert - "so much for Gobert's defense!" Duh - I watched Kenny Lofton Jr. hit layup after layup on Wemby in the U-19 Worlds finals, but that doesn't mean jack.


The combine means literally nothing. Gobert fell because he was slow and lumbering in the combine. Meanwhile Jordan Farmar is supposed to be great because he had a 40 inch vertical or whatever. I say again: the combine means nothing.
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I would say the combine is their job interview and means a thing or two. Eddy showed he was serious and prepared. Clingan came across as possibly lazy, entitled as well as slower and less agile than Edey. I would question a players work ethic and commitment when they blow an interview so badly. Meanwhile, when a player the size of Edey blows up like he did, I’m taking one or two long hard looks at him. Just a difference of opinion here.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Clingan's job is not to defend one on one against players like Edey - his job is to defend against entire teams, and he does that. People say the same shit when Jokic gets 40 on Rody Gobert - "so much for Gobert's defense!" Duh - I watched Kenny Lofton Jr. hit layup after layup on Wemby in the U-19 Worlds finals, but that doesn't mean jack.


The combine means literally nothing. Gobert fell because he was slow and lumbering in the combine. Meanwhile Jordan Farmar is supposed to be great because he had a 40 inch vertical or whatever. I say again: the combine means nothing.
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Yes - combine means nothing. Actual game film shows Edey to be on par (or better) with Clingan athletically.
 
BIG Q said:
I listened to the BS the past four college seasons regarding Edey. Then, last season Clingan wins a title as a freshman and is anointed the next “it” big man. Then in this past title game Edey actually ate Clingan’s lunch and I listened to how Edey is just so much slower than Clingan. Then Edey went to the combine and literally out performed Clingan in everything. Speed, agility, height, reach and wing span. That is when I looked at the other bigs in the NBA and rosters are littered with bigs that are “slow.” Then I’m thinking about how the NBA has the refs letting some of the grabbing and pushing go because the game scores are too high. When that happens, bigs become relevant again. After his combine I came on here and said he is a lotto pick. Now I’m not advocating at 7 as Portland has. Bigger need at forward. But that player, whoever it may be might never have the career of Edey. We know Edey can put the ball in the hoop, rebound and set screens. Meanwhile we are all pondering what exactly players like Williams, Salaun Holland and Buzellis can do.
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Great post.

For all the naysayers, I would recommend them to read through this long analysis:
https://theswishtheory.com/2024-nba...-systematic-defense-of-a-generational-talent/
 
Yeah I’m in on Edey. I’d take him 14th, but if there’s a good chance he’s gone by then I’d totally take him 7th.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Clingan's job is not to defend one on one against players like Edey - his job is to defend against entire teams, and he does that.
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Huh?

Clingan is on a team with great overall size and athleticism. He played with another lottery player who is a great defender in Castle. Cam Spencer and Tristen Newton are going to be drafted, too.

Purdue is Edey and a bunch of role players.

I get that people want to find fault with Edey, but some of these narratives are out of alternate realities. Now we're getting that Clingan carried UConn but Edey didn't carry Purdue when I don't see how anyone can realistically make that argument.
 
PCmor7 said:
Huh?

Clingan is on a team with great overall size and athleticism. He played with another lottery player who is a great defender in Castle. Cam Spencer and Tristen Newton are going to be drafted, too.

Purdue is Edey and a bunch of role players.

I get that people want to find fault with Edey, but some of these narratives are out of alternate realities. Now we're getting that Clingan carried UConn but Edey didn't carry Purdue when I don't see how anyone can realistically make that argument.
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Look, in the modern NBA, with the exception of Jokic, the job of the center is to protect the rim. Offense is a bonus, but nobody plays inside out (even Jokic plays on the perimeter). Edey is offense first but has poor defensive instincts. Clingan is much better at the thing that NBA wants out of centers.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Look, in the modern NBA, with the exception of Jokic, the job of the center is to protect the rim. Offense is a bonus, but nobody plays inside out (even Jokic plays on the perimeter). Edey is offense first but has poor defensive instincts. Clingan is much better at the thing that NBA wants out of centers.
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That's false, too, and since you need to qualify it, it proves my point, but, by all means, keep buying in, keep digging that hole while avoiding my post and facts.
 
PCmor7 said:
That's false, too, and since you need to qualify it, it proves my point, but, by all means, keep buying in, keep digging that hole while avoiding my post and facts.
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I'm running scared from your scary facts. But remind me what your "point" is.
 
Hoopguru said:
What an article! Would you draft Edey at 7?
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I hav Edey ranked above Clingan. I don't love the idea of taking a slow-footed drop coverage guy in the top 10...
but for this draft, Id probably do it
 
Somebody explain to me how Edey is going to get more minutes than peak Boban did. I mean, per minute, Boban was a world-beater on offense.
 
My only concern with drafting Edey is that the team does not fully commit to making him the force he can be. No half assing it. You develop him like any player drafted.
 
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