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BonesJones said:
JaMychal Green is no better than Al-Farouq Aminu. I don't understand why we'd trade for him unless we got him back as part of a salary dump. I have doubts whether this rumor is even real.
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Maybe they want to move Aminu in a different deal.
 
Scalma said:
If nothing else, I’d say we’ve been connected to more names now than in recent memory. Don’t know what it means, but I also think we’re in better position to be buyers, standings wise. Not sure about asset wise.
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Im less optimistic we make a deal this year than ever.
 
BonesJones said:
They have equal contracts, positions, ability... doesnt make sense to get Green to trade Aminu.
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If you have a separate deal for Aminu, then of course it does. If Aminu nets you something elsewhere.
 
RR7 said:
If you have a separate deal for Aminu, then of course it does. If Aminu nets you something elsewhere.
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What youd get for Aminu is what youd have to give up for Green. Doesnt make sense to swap them.
 
LayneStaley said:
I agree with a few other posters, only trade(s) we are making, if any, are salary dump trades. I will be shocked if we actually upgrade any talent.
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Well it's not like Olshey's worried fans are going to take out billboards or hire planes to fly signs if he doesn't.
 
Chris Craig said:
Trade Meyers, Turner, 1st for Kevin Love and Rodney Hood

Trade Baldwin and a second to Chicago for Carmelo
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id do the Love & Hood deal.
I like Rodney's game and I think the Jazz miss him big time.
 
I still think there was a strategy in acquiring 2 guards and drafting two guards.
What could it be?
 
Okay, the Melo part people aren't going to like but it's such a small part of this so here's my idea. It can be broken into smaller trades or as a big 4 team trade.

Sacramento gets Harkless, Swanigan, and Por 2019 1st (lottery protected)

Atlanta gets Por 2020 2nd (unless it's 56-60) and Miami 2021 2nd (via Sac)

Chicago gets Nik Stauskas and Cash (via Blazers)

Portland gets Taurean Prince, Skal Labissiere, and Carmelo Anthony

We get under the luxury tax line and add two players who are still on their rookie deals for one more year. Melo is to give our bench an offensive PF.

Dame, CJ, Prince, Aminu, Nurk

Turner, Curry, Layman, Melo, Collins

Baldwin, Simons, Trent, Skal, Leonard

We improve a little bit while making the finances better too. I'm not completely in love with it but I think it makes sense from the front office perspective. If Prince ends up being a dependable part of the core (or at least more so than Harkless) then this trade is a big win.
 
hoopsjock said:
Okay, the Melo part people aren't going to like but it's such a small part of this so here's my idea. It can be broken into smaller trades or as a big 4 team trade.

Sacramento gets Harkless, Swanigan, and Por 2019 1st (lottery protected)

Atlanta gets Por 2020 2nd (unless it's 56-60) and Miami 2021 2nd (via Sac)

Chicago gets Nik Stauskas and Cash (via Blazers)

Portland gets Taurean Prince, Skal Labissiere, and Carmelo Anthony

We get under the luxury tax line and add two players who are still on their rookie deals for one more year. Melo is to give our bench an offensive PF.

Dame, CJ, Prince, Aminu, Nurk

Turner, Curry, Layman, Melo, Collins

Baldwin, Simons, Trent, Skal, Leonard

We improve a little bit while making the finances better too. I'm not completely in love with it but I think it makes sense from the front office perspective. If Prince ends up being a dependable part of the core (or at least more so than Harkless) then this trade is a big win.
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You think Atlanta gives up Prince for 2 2nds?
 
yuyuza1 said:
This is kinda what I was thinking. He's prolly as valuable as a mid first round pick maybe.

The contract and age are hurdles, but I think he's worth more than our lotto protected pick. Depends on the team. Unfortunately, we probably value him more than everyone else.
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I doubt how is his age and contract a hurdle.
BigGameDamian said:
https://www.blazersedge.com/platfor...mphis-grizzlies-jamychal-green-garrett-temple

Deveney: Trail Blazers Express Interest in Memphis Grizzlies Trade

JaMychal Green and Garrett Temple are reportedly on Portland’s radar.
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This makes no sense to me, for either team, based on their salaries. and who we would need to move to get them.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I doubt how is his age and contract a hurdle.
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He is almost 25 and in theory, other teams might perceive him to have less upside than a potential first rounder.

And he will be a free agent in 6 months and expecting a much larger deal than a rookie scale deal for a ~24th pick.

I'm comparing Jake's value to our lotto protected first.
 
yuyuza1 said:
He is almost 25 and in theory, other teams might perceive him to have less upside than a potential first rounder.

And he will be a free agent in 6 months and expecting a much larger deal than a rookie scale deal for a ~24th pick.

I'm comparing Jake's value to our lotto protected first.
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Yeah I guess it depends on the team. On the flip side he is ready to contribute now as opposed to many late 1st round picks. And he is less of risk than many draft picks as he at least has some success in a real NBA game. And if resigned will still have another 5-7 years in his prime.

I get what you are saying though, for some they might prefer the higher risk-reward option.
 
Chris Craig said:
You think Atlanta gives up Prince for 2 2nds?
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I don't think they are getting a 1st for him without taking on a bad contract so maybe. The fact that they are future 2nds they'd probably like and they take no money back. Not sure though.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
This makes no sense to me, for either team, based on their salaries. and who we would need to move to get them.
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Agreed. I can see Green being useful, but I don't see how it becomes value to us. Do we use a 1st to add him and dump a contract? Leonard and a 1st for Green? Does that really improve us at all this year, or going forward? Seems like an overpay for Green. He's decent, just not worth a 1st. Even with the salary dump, IMO.
Maybe if it was a backup plan to moving Aminu but, how many pieces are you really going to move? It's not fantasy basketball, or 2K, a team competing for HCA, regardless of what you can say about their contending chances, just doesn't seem likely to have like 3 deals in succession at the deadline, overhauling 1/4th the roster or something.
 
RR7 said:
Agreed. I can see Green being useful, but I don't see how it becomes value to us. Do we use a 1st to add him and dump a contract? Leonard and a 1st for Green? Does that really improve us at all this year, or going forward? Seems like an overpay for Green. He's decent, just not worth a 1st. Even with the salary dump, IMO.
Maybe if it was a backup plan to moving Aminu but, how many pieces are you really going to move? It's not fantasy basketball, or 2K, a team competing for HCA, regardless of what you can say about their contending chances, just doesn't seem likely to have like 3 deals in succession at the deadline, overhauling 1/4th the roster or something.
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Agreed, the only thing that would make sense is if it was part of a 3 team deal say for Love (just an example) where Aminu, Green, and Temple went to the Cavs as expirings and Turner and a pick went to Memphis and Love to Portland. Seems like the Cavs would need more than just expiring contracts though.
 
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hoopsjock said:
Agreed, the only thing that would make sense is if it was part of a 3 team deal say for Love (just an example) where Aminu, Green, and Temple went to the Cavs as expirings and Turner and a pick went to Memphis and Love to Portland. Seems like the Cavs would need more than just expiring contracts though.
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Harkless and a couple of2nds to Memphis for green and temple. Saves them almost 5 million this year,and they're close to the tax right now, so breathing room could be nice. Then those 2 aminu, Simon's for love? Is Simon's enough? Getting entirely out of his contract, and pairing Simons and Sexton in the backcourt?
Then 1st and tpe for prince?

Lillard/turner
CJ/curry
Prince/layman
Love/Collins
Nurk/Leonard

I'd be scared of the hit to our defense with love for amumu, but its intriguing on offense
 
hoopsjock said:
Agreed, the only thing that would make sense is if it was part of a 3 team deal say for Love (just an example) where Aminu, Green, and Temple went to the Cavs as expirings and Turner and a pick went to Memphis and Love to Portland. Seems like the Cavs would need more than just expiring contracts though.
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But hadn't thought of the expiring contract angle, and am now intrigued at the possibilities it could open up. Clippers want to be players in FA next season. Swapping Gallinari for Leonard saves them over 10 million next season. If we move Harkless and Leonard for Gallinar, Harkless to Memphis for expirings?
So many possibilities.
 
RR7 said:
But hadn't thought of the expiring contract angle, and am now intrigued at the possibilities it could open up. Clippers want to be players in FA next season. Swapping Gallinari for Leonard saves them over 10 million next season. If we move Harkless and Leonard for Gallinar, Harkless to Memphis for expirings?
So many possibilities.
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Yeah, the only issue is it would have to be one big trade as you can't combine players after you trade for them for 2 months.
 
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hoopsjock said:
Yeah, the only issue is it would have to be one big trade as you can't combine players after you trade for them for 2 months.
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Oh for sure. Just easier to type out as separate. But I think a mo for those 2 is doable without tons of assets back to them. Something similar to Wilson chandler and lin deals from offseason
 
hoopsjock said:
Agreed, the only thing that would make sense is if it was part of a 3 team deal say for Love (just an example) where Aminu, Green, and Temple went to the Cavs as expirings and Turner and a pick went to Memphis and Love to Portland. Seems like the Cavs would need more than just expiring contracts though.
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I also now wonder if our rumored interest in Lin was as an expiring deal, more than actual interest in Lin. Lin and Prince for Hark or Leonard and a 1st allows us in a 3 way deal to use a 13 million expiring.

Really, I'm wasting time on trade machine, and getting myself excited over deals that won't happen. lol
 
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