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I think Thon Maker has "Olshey Move" written all over him , i'm just not sure if the Bucks are still (too) high on him as they were a year ago.
 
CupWizier said:
What we know in my hypothetical is that Davis will be gone by the end of next year and very doubtful we could ever get by GS with Davis. In your hypothetical we don't know what round we will be eliminated and then when the large contracts are either traded or expire we will then have more flexibility and still have McCollum as an asset. I'm not interested in one year rentals.
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You get two playoffs to try to make it work with AD, and try to get him to stay. That's much more than you get with CJ. It doesn't work and AD leaves you have to build around Dame / Nurk, which you're gonna have to do at some point anyway. CJ only has one more year on his contract than AD does, no guarantee you keep him either. If it's going really bad next year at this time the Blazers could trade AD to try to recoup assets.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
You get two playoffs to try to make it work with AD, and try to get him to stay. That's much more than you get with CJ. It doesn't work and AD leaves you have to build around Dame / Nurk, which you're gonna have to do at some point anyway. CJ only has one more year on his contract than AD does, no guarantee you keep him either. If it's going really bad next year at this time the Blazers could trade AD to try to recoup assets.
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My hypothetical is based on him leaving. Now you are changing the narrative to fit what you want though.
 
CupWizier said:
and that question didn't ask if Davis will not re-sign would you want to trade some of our core for him. I imagine every player in the NBA would have a similar answer.
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Our Core isn't good enough, you want to win a championship at some point, then you're going to have to give up part of it to upgrade... You implied Dame might leave if the trade for AD happens and things don't work out, he might leave if they don't too. I'm saying at least you're bringing in a guy who he is on record wanting to play with.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Our Core isn't good enough, you want to win a championship at some point, then you're going to have to give up part of it to upgrade... You implied Dame might leave if the trade for AD happens and things don't work out, he might leave if they don't too. I'm saying at least you're bringing in a guy who he is on record wanting to play with.
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What if the Pelicans said they would only do it for McCollum and Nurkic and they send back Davis and Solomon Hill? I didn't see the Davis, Jrue core do much either and that would be similar to what we would end up with and then even less when Davis walks.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
"Your hypothetical" is entirely your narrative. If he leaves after a year and a half I'm ok with it. Rather have him for 2 playoffs than CJ for the next 3.
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Of course it is. I'm the one that said it, but it's also based on some facts and a strong possibility. You keep saying for this year and next, but I have been on record that Pels won't likely deal till the off season so that leaves one season.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Our Core isn't good enough, you want to win a championship at some point, then you're going to have to give up part of it to upgrade... You implied Dame might leave if the trade for AD happens and things don't work out, he might leave if they don't too. I'm saying at least you're bringing in a guy who he is on record wanting to play with.
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I don't think our core will ever be good enough. And Olshey may know this. I think he's into whatever moves will keep him his job. He's playing the odds. Almost every small GM is. But you are going to be going up against a team of three maybe four All Stars and HOFers every year in the Western Conference of the Super Team Era. Olshey may not be shooting for a NBA Finals. He may be shooting for a WCF. That way if the Blazers fire him. He'll be the GM "that took that overachieving Portland team to the Western Conference Finals." He'll still be viewed as a competant GM and control the narrative. He wants to be in a situation where he isn't blamed. That's why he is paranoid about any negative media.
 
CupWizier said:
What if the Pelicans said they would only do it for McCollum and Nurkic and they send back Davis and Solomon Hill? I didn't see the Davis, Jrue core do much either and that would be similar to what we would end up with and then even less when Davis walks.
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But that's not what I said, I said McCollum as the piece they wouldn't give up. McCollum and Nurkic that's a bit of a different story.
I'd probably still do it, but I wouldn't be upset if they said no at that.
 
CupWizier said:
Of course it is. I'm the one that said it, but it's also based on some facts and a strong possibility. You keep saying for this year and next, but I have been on record that Pels won't likely deal till the off season so that leaves one season.
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I don't think they'll move him before the deadline either. If they could get him now for CJ and a couple 1sts and whatever makes salaries match up I'd be more than ok with it, even if he chose to walk in a year and a half.
 
CupWizier said:
What we know in my hypothetical is that Davis will be gone by the end of next year and very doubtful we could ever get by GS with Davis. In your hypothetical we don't know what round we will be eliminated and then when the large contracts are either traded or expire we will then have more flexibility and still have McCollum as an asset. I'm not interested in one year rentals.
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Glass half full vs glass half empty.

Both scenarios have risk. We've already seen what the Blazers have as currently constructed. I'd like to see what tgey can accomplish with the elite level tallent. I'm tired of the status quo.

Blazers have recently reminded me of the Grizz when Gasol & Conley were a bit younger. hey were perennial playoff teams, but never serious contenders. They've the core together and have never been able to become elite. They always thought they were better/further along than they were.
 
CupWizier said:
Would you consider it stupid if word came from Davis's camp that he wouldn't re-sign with Portland?
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That should make a big difference - but some Blazer fans are desperate enough to support taking major risks.

If the team is going to take a risk, AD is on the short list of players that might be worth it. Paul George did change his mind about staying in OKC. :dunno:
 
AD is friends with Dame and says his legacy is important. He and Dame could forge a legacy together here in Portland. No, it’s not as sexy as LA, but he, Dame, and Nurk (if he weren’t dealt) would be a serious lineup. I would not be surprised if we were able to get AD to re-sign, assuming we can make a bit of a playoff run.
 
Speaking of getting past the GSW, here's a question: out of Green, KD, Klay, and Cousins, how many do you think will be in a Warriors' uniform next season?

I'd suggest a poll, but I am getting tired of all the complaints everytime somebody starts a new thread.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Speaking of getting past the GSW, here's a question: out of Green, KD, Klay, and Cousins, how many do you think will be in a Warriors' uniform next season?

I'd suggest a poll, but I am getting tired of all the complaints everytime somebody starts a new thread.
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The old brigade will be there next season - Steph, Klay and Draymond. Zero chance that Boogie is there next season, about 30% chance KD stays IMO.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Speaking of getting past the GSW, here's a question: out of Green, KD, Klay, and Cousins, how many do you think will be in a Warriors' uniform next season?

I'd suggest a poll, but I am getting tired of all the complaints everytime somebody starts a new thread.
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We talked about that in the Podcast....that GS could very well look different next year. You add Davis to the Blazers and I think they get to the WCF. Next year? Who knows with Durant possibly headed to NYK and Cousins/Thompson's future up in the air.

That is why I believe you go after Davis NOW while you can make 2 legit Playoff runs with him....and who knows how far Portland could go next year. I believe it would be entirely possible they get a solid FA this Summer for cheap to come play with Dame/AD/Nurk.
 
TBpup said:
We talked about that in the Podcast....that GS could very well look different next year. You add Davis to the Blazers and I think they get to the WCF. Next year? Who knows with Durant possibly headed to NYK and Cousins/Thompson's future up in the air.

That is why I believe you go after Davis NOW while you can make 2 legit Playoff runs with him....and who knows how far Portland could go next year. I believe it would be entirely possible they get a solid FA this Summer for cheap to come play with Dame/AD/Nurk.
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I do like the Raptors' display of courage this past summer.
"We have good players, but we're stuck at 2nd tier while our good players are getting older. Lets risk it all and if it won't work - fuck it, just rebuild sooner rather than later".
 
Blazers Roy said:
I think Thon Maker has "Olshey Move" written all over him , i'm just not sure if the Bucks are still (too) high on him as they were a year ago.
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No thanks.

After I saw the way that dude fights, I just can’t take him seriously.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
Does Kobe Bryant fight?
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Well, he can absorb well.

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BLAZINGGIANTS said:
AD is friends with Dame and says his legacy is important. He and Dame could forge a legacy together here in Portland. No, it’s not as sexy as LA, but he, Dame, and Nurk (if he weren’t dealt) would be a serious lineup. I would not be surprised if we were able to get AD to re-sign, assuming we can make a bit of a playoff run.
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One thing I do believe is that AD is dead set on playing for LA. He'll get there whether the rest of the league likes it or not. He wouldn't be having his agent jumping through all these hoops and pissing off people around the league. I mean the amount of press leaks slagging Boston and pushing Davis to LA is just ridiculous. And I don't think I've ever seen the Laker ownership this desperate. Which is kind of cool actually. Guess teams are really sick of their shit. Can't say I blame them.
 
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Just remember most thought it was a sure thing that George would be a Laker and granted that case is a little different but things in the NBA can change fast.
 
ripcityboy said:
One thing I do believe is that AD is dead set on playing for LA. He'll get there whether the rest of the league likes it or not. He wouldn't be having his agent jumping through all these hoops and pissing off people around the league. I mean the amount of press leaks slagging Boston and pushing Davis to LA is just ridiculous. And I don't think I've ever seen the Laker ownership this desperate. Which is kind of cool actually. Guess teams are really sick of their shit. Can't say I blame them.
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So was everyone else that didn’t end up in LA.....
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
So was everyone else that didn’t end up in LA.....
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Well it's only been six months since LA got their last franchise player. In a few more they'll have a chance to dip into the well and get another one. Somebody else will be happy.
 
ripcityboy said:
Well it's only been six months since LA got their last franchise player. In a few more they'll have a chance to dip into the well and get another one. Somebody else will be happy.
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Remember when Westbrook was going there? And Paul George? And even though Kawhi may go, it would be more likely he goes to the Clips. And how many others? If AD came here, it wouldn’t surprise me to see him re-sign, especially if we do well (and he has many millions more reason to re-sign).
 
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