Exclusive 2019 Trade Deadline Thread (2 Viewers)

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hoopsjock said:
Bleacher Report's Zach Buckley had an article about "Blockbuster Deals that Would Blow Up the NBA Trade Deadline" and there was a Blazer one:

Cavs get Turner, Simons, and Swanigan

Blazers get Love and Nwaba
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B/E has a post about this suggestion as well.

Personally, I don't see Cleveland so on fire to get rid of Love that they'd dump him for so little.

For the Blazers, it'd seem like another deal (Lin?) would need to follow this one.
 
dviss1 said:
These numbers are subjective.

Why?

Ask yourself this:

At what point in the game are CJ and Seth on the floor at the same time and who are they matched up against?

No need to answer. They certainly aren't matched up against starters.

Neither are Dame and Seth when they share the floor.

So these numbers are dependent on matchups.

Therefore these numbers alone don't tell the whole story.
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Whaaaaat? You crazy. It's obvious that Curry is our best player! He makes everyone around him better.
 
SwissBlazer said:
My point is that journalism is key in a democracy and by paying for it we help to keep it alive.
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Hooo boy - that's a tricky argument to make. The other side of that coin is that by charging the consumer for journalism only the well-to-do will be informed/educated. It use to be that the cost was paid for (mostly) by the advertisers - and the consumer got free (via library) or heavily subsidized (25 cents - $5 depending on whether it's a daily paper or a weekly magazine) information. With the paywall you're asking for a HUGE (comparatively) upfront payment which essentially removes access to the entire lower class.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
B/E has a post about this suggestion as well.

Personally, I don't see Cleveland so on fire to get rid of Love that they'd dump him for so little.

For the Blazers, it'd seem like another deal (Lin?) would need to follow this one.
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Getting rid of Love's 30 mil per contract for the next 4 years is huge for Cleveland and their very young team. But I a not sure those numbers add up. If I am Cleveland I would take ET and Aminu plus a young but unproven talent. (i.e Gary Trent)

Portland IMO would be taking a huge gamble paying an often injured player who would be 31, 32, 33, and 34 that kind of money. However I would roll the dice because I think Love's passing, rebounding, and 3 point shooting fits in well next to Nurk.
 
Something I think that is being way undervalued when it comes to KLove is his basketball IQ. He is a very smart player and he's a great stretch 4 along with a great rebounder. He's an NBA champion and would play hard here for his hometown team.
If you can do a deal even close to that....you have to do it.

Unless you can get blake..then go get blake
 
PtldPlatypus said:
B/E has a post about this suggestion as well.

Personally, I don't see Cleveland so on fire to get rid of Love that they'd dump him for so little.

For the Blazers, it'd seem like another deal (Lin?) would need to follow this one.
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Why mention that B/E has it? Do you want me to go there to discuss it instead of our superior forum? LOL! C'mon man you're a mod.
 
It's not what I want but I still think Love is the most likely trade scenario. It can become a reality in 2 days.
 
hoopsjock said:
Why mention that B/E has it? Do you want me to go there to discuss it instead of our superior forum? LOL! C'mon man you're a mod.
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More pointing out that the B/R dude probably grabbed it from B/E, indicating that there is no substantiation to the suggestion outside of the mind of some random blogger on some inferior fan site.

Better? :cheers:
 
PtldPlatypus said:
More pointing out that the B/R dude probably grabbed it from B/E, indicating that there is no substantiation to the suggestion outside of the mind of some random blogger on some inferior fan site.

Better? :cheers:
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Huh? You have it backwards. The B/E article is about the B/R trade, not the other way around.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
More pointing out that the B/R dude probably grabbed it from B/E, indicating that there is no substantiation to the suggestion outside of the mind of some random blogger on some inferior fan site.

Better? :cheers:
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It's still just a meaningless suggestion from a national source like the CJ for Gordon trade though.
 
hoopsjock said:
Bleacher Report's Zach Buckley had an article about "Blockbuster Deals that Would Blow Up the NBA Trade Deadline" and there was a Blazer one:

Cavs get Turner, Simons, and Swanigan

Blazers get Love and Nwaba
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"I'll trade ya a bucket of horse turds for a bucket of cow turds. As a bonus, I'll screw up your cap space from here to eternity!"
 
Fez Von Savage said:
Joe. Harris.
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B-Roy said:
That's funny, I was literally about to come on here to post the same thing.

Outside of a first though, there's nothing we could offer Brooklyn.
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Lot of parallels to him and Layman. 4 yr college players. Didn't do anything til yr 3.

You guys want Harris to be our starting SF, or a role player off the bench? I don't see any reason why BK would get rid of him. He's cheap and consistent.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Lot of parallels to him and Layman. 4 yr college players. Didn't do anything til yr 3.

You guys want Harris to be our starting SF, or a role player off the bench? I don't see any reason why BK would get rid of him. He's cheap and consistent.
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He's a better option than anyone we currently have. At worst he plays the sixth man role over Turner. 64% TS%.
 
B-Roy said:
He's a better option than anyone we currently have. At worst he plays the sixth man role over Turner. 64% TS%.
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I agree about his value. I just dont see BK letting him go. Unless they're sure they are getting 2 max FAs, they don't need to clear his meager 8 mil/yr salary. That's a great contract.
 
After the bullshit Melo Portland discussion, there was quite a bit of talk about trade deadline buyers and sellers on The Jump.

Takeaways:
-New Orleans is most obvious buyer
-Portland is a buyer. It "feels like" Portland is going to realize that the door is open to get the #2 seed and they'll put the pick in play. TMac again mentions Melo, and Zach says no.
-ATL/CHI/CLE/NYK/MIA will all be sellers
-Grizzlies will be a team to watch
 
I’ve thought about it and I’m not totally against Love.

First, yes he has been injured the past couple seasons but I believe once healthy he will be productive for at least 3 of those 4 years on his extension, which means you have an expiring to possibly aquire other assets in year 4 of the deal. He’s not a player who relies on superior athleticism to be productive which makes me confident he will still be posting double doubles into his year 33. I also don’t see him having to play as many minutes as cle has required of him when he was healthy, which could help with health concerns.

Second, the contract is bad but we have our own bad contracts and if they are really willing to deal him for salary cap relief 2 years sooner with the contracts we will be sending them I think it’s a no brainer. Serious question, which players better than Love are coming to pdx in free agency in 2020 or 2021 or 2022?

Third, having one all nba player and 3 borderline all stars in our starting lineup makes us the second best team in the West and cracks the window open, especially with uncertainty in GS following this season. Everyone who complains about Neil sitting on his hands or the Blazers being in purgatory couldn’t complain about this move, it’s taking a chance and giving Dame an opportunity to win in his prime.

With all that said, get Griffin if you can:)
 
yuyuza1 said:
After the bullshit Melo Portland discussion, there was quite a bit of talk about trade deadline buyers and sellers on The Jump.

Takeaways:
-New Orleans is most obvious buyer
-Portland is a buyer. It "feels like" Portland is going to realize that the door is open to get the #2 seed and they'll put the pick in play. TMac again mentions Melo, and Zach says no.
-ATL/CHI/CLE/NYK/MIA will all be sellers
-Grizzlies will be a team to watch
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If we put the pick in play without including players, were looking at guys that fit into the Vonleh TPE ($3.5M)

Now if we add someone like Meyers to that pick we could expand that list to guys like Terrence Ross. No free agent is going to Orlando, so that’s a trade that should interest them. Wed probably also have a chance to re-sign Ross. Throw in one of Baldwin/Stauskas to open a roster spot.

Second unit:

Curry
Ross
Turner
Harkless
Collins

I actually prefer Ross to the Taurean Prince idea. Ross is the better player and we still accomplish the goal of opening up flexibility in the summer.
 
New Orleans should not be trading their pick (unless it's for a very good player like Beal) but I'm sure they will. They will be around 10-12 worst team and will have a small change at a top 3 pick with those odds, even if they don't get it they can get decent young talent at 10-12 range who will be under their control for the next 4 years at very least.

They are probably going to trade that pick for someone like Bazemore or Ross though.
 
Sarni said:
New Orleans should not be trading their pick (unless it's for a very good player like Beal) but I'm sure they will. They will be around 10-12 worst team and will have a small change at a top 3 pick with those odds, even if they don't get it they can get decent young talent at 10-12 range who will be under their control for the next 4 years at very least.

They are probably going to trade that pick for someone like Bazemore or Ross though.
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They'll do something like their pick, Hill, and Johnson for Lin and Prince.
 
BonesJones said:
They'll do something like their pick, Hill, and Johnson for Lin and Prince.
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It is so shortsighted for NO to suddenly become a buyer yet again. They haven't drafted/kept their own first round pick since AD/Austin Rivers in the 2012 draft. They got a 24 yr old Buddy Hield with the 6th pick in 2016, but traded him for Boogie after 57 games.

Prince and Lin won't get them into the playoffs this year.
 
yuyuza1 said:
It is so shortsighted for NO to suddenly become a buyer yet again. They haven't drafted/kept their own first round pick since AD/Austin Rivers in the 2012 draft. They got a 24 yr old Buddy Hield with the 6th pick in 2016, but traded him for Boogie after 57 games.

Prince and Lin won't get them into the playoffs this year.
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Im not saying it's smart.
 
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