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TBpup said:
Stevens wants Turner back and Hayward's contract is enough of an albatross to make it happen.

Hayward -for- Turner/Harkless/Swanigan/Stauskas

It's a gamble for Portland due to that massive contract and Boston gets back smaller pieces that are more flexible and Turner replaces something they have been missing since he left.
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Our most realistic avenue of landing a star without touching our “core”
 
TBpup said:
Stevens wants Turner back and Hayward's contract is enough of an albatross to make it happen.

Hayward -for- Turner/Harkless/Swanigan/Stauskas

It's a gamble for Portland due to that massive contract and Boston gets back smaller pieces that are more flexible and Turner replaces something they have been missing since he left.
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This should be in the unsubstantiated rumors thread, lol.
 
Hayward is a double gamble due to the size of the contract and questions about whether he will ever be back to 100%?

One thing, he is playing out of position in Boston. After being a SF all of his career, he is often playing PF. A return to his natural position would IMO serve him well. His shooting is way down but I expect that with a return to SF and going into next season, that could return closer to normal. A career 37% shooter from '3' before his injury, you would think he would trend back towards that from this seasons abysmal .314.

At 28 years old, he fits right into the 'Dame window'.
 
TBpup said:
Hayward is a double gamble due to the size of the contract and questions about whether he will ever be back to 100%?

One thing, he is playing out of position in Boston. After being a SF all of his career, he is often playing PF. A return to his natural position would IMO serve him well. His shooting is way down but I expect that with a return to SF and going into next season, that could return closer to normal. A career 37% shooter from '3' before his injury, you would think he would trend back towards that from this seasons abysmal .314.

At 28 years old, he fits right into the 'Dame window'.
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If Turner is the centerpiece of the trade, I think I'd be willing to take that gamble. His contract is ridic though! Also, if he doesn't come back 100%, is he better than Jake? That's both kinda a serious question and kinda not. I'm posting this screen shot of 2018 Jake vs 2015 Hayward without first having looked at it to see what the numbers look like:

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Worst case scenario imo...

Hou adds Jordan
LA adds AD
Utah adds Conley
OKC adds Mirotic/Mathews
Por adds Love or Melo
 
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Layne that is not the worst case scenario the worst case scenario is the BLazers take a gamble on Melo or make a trade to get rid of salary that in the long run hurt the team more then help it.
 
Wow, I'm scanning through the numbers and didn't expect Jake to compare well at so many data points. Those advanced stats are obviously not in his favor, but his percentages and per games are a lot closer than I expected.
 
TBpup said:
Hayward is a double gamble due to the size of the contract and questions about whether he will ever be back to 100%?

One thing, he is playing out of position in Boston. After being a SF all of his career, he is often playing PF. A return to his natural position would IMO serve him well. His shooting is way down but I expect that with a return to SF and going into next season, that could return closer to normal. A career 37% shooter from '3' before his injury, you would think he would trend back towards that from this seasons abysmal .314.

At 28 years old, he fits right into the 'Dame window'.
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I agree and I think Hayward will get better just with another year away from his injury. And I do not think Tatum is going anywhere, so it might be doable if they get rid of Marcus Smart and his 40% shooting.
 
TBpup said:
Stevens wants Turner back and Hayward's contract is enough of an albatross to make it happen.

Hayward -for- Turner/Harkless/Swanigan/Stauskas

It's a gamble for Portland due to that massive contract and Boston gets back smaller pieces that are more flexible and Turner replaces something they have been missing since he left.
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I don't think our front office has the guts to do something that risky unfortunately. But is this speculation on your part or something you're hearing?
 
LayneStaley said:
Worst case scenario imo...

Hou adds Jordan
LA adds AD
Utah adds Conley
OKC adds Mirotic/Mathews
Por adds Love
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I’d argue that doing nothing is Portland’s worst case scenario. Yes loves contract is shit, but if he’s healthy he’s a significant upgrade. At least it was an attempt at getting better. I can respect that on some level, even if I don’t want Love on this team.
 
TBpup said:
Hayward is a double gamble due to the size of the contract and questions about whether he will ever be back to 100%?

One thing, he is playing out of position in Boston. After being a SF all of his career, he is often playing PF. A return to his natural position would IMO serve him well. His shooting is way down but I expect that with a return to SF and going into next season, that could return closer to normal. A career 37% shooter from '3' before his injury, you would think he would trend back towards that from this seasons abysmal .314.

At 28 years old, he fits right into the 'Dame window'.
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I just don't see Boston trading him for pennies on the dollar, even with his contract.
 
yuyuza1 said:
I don't think our front office has the guts to do something that risky unfortunately. But is this speculation on your part or something you're hearing?
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As @BonesJones will verify, I PM'd him a few days ago about Boston. No details whatsoever but I was told there was at least contact which you would only expect this time of year.
 
TBpup said:
As @BonesJones will verify, I PM'd him a few days ago about Boston. No details whatsoever but I was told there was at least contact which you would only expect this time of year.
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Awesome.

Given the risk is mainly financial, I'd do it. Are we even gonna be players in the 2020 FA? Highly doubt it.

If Hayward even reaches 75% of where he was before getting hurt, that makes us a step closer towards contention.
 
Per Woj, the Knicks, Nets, Clippers and Lakers have 7 Max slots available this summer.

Holy check writing Batman!
 
Hayward is repped by Bartlestein aka Olsheys boyfriend so it’s completely believable.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Awesome.

Given the risk is mainly financial, I'd do it. Are we even gonna be players in the 2020 FA? Highly doubt it.

If Hayward even reaches 75% of where he was before getting hurt, that makes us a step closer towards contention.
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Full disclosure, I have no idea what was said and my 'sauce' gave zero details other than there was contact. But in trying to figure out what that might be, Hayward has not worked out for them as planned and is a BIG salary at $31.2, 23.7 and 34.2 over the next 2 1/2 seasons.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Awesome.

Given the risk is mainly financial, I'd do it. Are we even gonna be players in the 2020 FA? Highly doubt it.

If Hayward even reaches 75% of where he was before getting hurt, that makes us a step closer towards contention.
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It’s only been a year and a half since his injury, all bodies don’t heal at the same rate and certain minds take longer to trust their bodies again than others. If this is actually an option pull the trigger. It would be a great moment in Blazer history if the ex Jazz players all star form was restored while wearing a Portland uni.
 
TBpup said:
Full disclosure, I have no idea what was said and my 'sauce' gave zero details other than there was contact. But in trying to figure out what that might be, Hayward has not worked out for them as planned and is a BIG salary at $31.2, 23.7 and 34.2 over the next 2 1/2 seasons.
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I'd be ecstatic if Jaylen Brown were involved. A collins + pick for Brown trade would be tremendous.
 
Let's pretend Neil figured out a way to deal for both Love and Hayward at the deadline without sacrificing Dame, CJ, or Nurk, and the Cavs, Celts and Vulcans were all on board. Would you be interested in the big swing or opposed to the major cash outlay?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Let's pretend Neil figured out a way to deal for both Love and Hayward at the deadline without sacrificing Dame, CJ, or Nurk, and the Cavs, Celts and Vulcans were all on board. Would you be interested in the big swing or opposed to the major cash outlay?
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Great question.

Hayward yes, Love no. Hayward has 2 years after this one and we won't be players in FA in those years as is. But Love's contract extends past Dame/CJ. I don't want to touch that.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Great question.

Hayward yes, Love no. Hayward has 2 years after this one and we won't be players in FA in those years as is. But Love's contract extends past Dame/CJ. I don't want to touch that.
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So, you'd say no to this...

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Amazing that this apparently makes all 3 teams worse.
 
Watch Neil roll the dice and become a fan favorite.....
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Followed by.....
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Por 1st to NO

Dame/Curry
CJ/Baldwin
Hayward/Layman
Mirotic/Chief
Nurk/Collins

There’s not a lot of D in that starting unit but we lose 3 bad contracts and gain 1.
 
LayneStaley said:
Watch Neil roll the dice and become a fan favorite.....
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Followed by.....
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Por 1st to NO

Dame/Curry
CJ/Baldwin
Hayward/Layman
Mirotic/Chief
Nurk/Collins

There’s not a lot of D in that starting unit but we lose 3 bad contracts and gain 1.
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Heh--that's a much better version of what I was talking about! :cheers:
 
TBpup said:
Full disclosure, I have no idea what was said and my 'sauce' gave zero details other than there was contact. But in trying to figure out what that might be, Hayward has not worked out for them as planned and is a BIG salary at $31.2, 23.7 and 34.2 over the next 2 1/2 seasons.
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Possible targets on Boston, imo:

Hayward
Marcus Morris
Jaylen Brown
Ojeleye

Brown would be the most difficult to get imo. Morris is an expiring. Ojeleye isn’t proven. Seems like Hayward is the most logical.
 
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