Game Thread 2023-24 GAME #43 - BLAZERS @ THUNDER - JANUARY 23, 2024 - TUESDAY - 5:00 PM PST - ROOT

[UKRAINEFAN]

how the fuck did Ayton get a Max contract

I thought he should have stepped out on Williams on his game winning shot. He just was in no mans land while Williams is on the shorter Simons.

 

[PCmor7]

Yeah the refs lost us this game. That being said bad calls happen, the game wasn’t rigged.

The good news is that we competed every second of the game, should have won and don’t hurt our lotto chances.

That wasn't a bad call. A bad call is missing a walk or a foul. Missing two guys within 4 feet of you yelling for timeout and then assessing two Ts against a team with a 1-point lead with under 20 seconds left goes way beyond a bad call.

I've been around a lot of good HS officials who never would allow something like this to happen.

It's bush. And, again, the ref that didn't allow the timeouts and called the first technical probably should lose his job over this. It actually looks dirty.

 

[blazerfan11]

Did Chauncey call a TO? They wouldn't show the replay angle on the Thunder broadcast.

Yes, he was trying to call a timeout at the moment just before Brogdon's dribble hit the floor.

 

[Tince]

Haberstat talking about the lack of experience of the two refs who called the technicals, only 8 combined years.

Guy can put a number to anything!

 

[PCmor7]

I went back, and I don't think he made contact... though he was beyond the coaches box (as was Billups).

That's what it looked like to me. too.

 

[Whyachi]

what really sucks, is the Blazers played pretty dam good, so did OKC... and here we are watching Coach Billups vs. Refs post game highlights.

 

[Tince]

If looked pretty sure than SGA touched the ball when Brogdon was being hounded.

Wouldn't that allow Brogdon to restart his dribble?

No... unless it caused the ball to come loose.

 

[PCmor7]

Here's the whole sequence.

 

[Labinot41]

Anyone else get Whiteside vibes from Ayton?

 

[beast blazer]

I have always thought that if a player dribbles into a trap, they should not be able to bail themselves out with a time-out. I know that's not the rule but it should be

That's kinda what time outs are for...

 

[wizenheimer]

If looked pretty sure than SGA touched the ball when Brogdon was being hounded.

Wouldn't that allow Brogdon to restart his dribble?

no, Brogdon picked up his dribble and couldn't resume dribbling unless the ball was knocked out of his hands

 

[blazerfan11]

I went back, and I don't think he made contact... though he was beyond the coaches box (as was Billups).

Billups crossed the half court line and grabbed the officials arm. Maybe that's why he got the first technical.

 

[beast blazer]

Anyone else get Whiteside vibes from Ayton?

Jamaal Magloire with less heart.

 

[Tince]

 

[PCmor7]

Anyone else get Whiteside vibes from Ayton?

I don't.

Ayton has a midrange shot, he can switch and guard on the pick-and-roll 22 feet from the basket and he doesn't foul a ton.

People can criticize Ayton, but I don't think this is a fair comparison.

 

[Tince]

Billups crossed the half court line and grabbed the officials arm. Maybe that's why he got the first technical.

Billups first tech was 100% legit. Refs had to call it.

 

[blazerfan11]

Did the Blazers not expect a trap, ahead by 1 point with 25 seconds left in the game?

They sure weren't ready for it.

 

[beast blazer]

I don't.

Ayton has a midrange shot, he can switch and guard on the pick-and-roll 22 feet from the basket and he doesn't foul a ton.

People can criticize Ayton, but I don't think this is a fair comparison.

Whiteside had a mid range shot.

 

[illmatic99]

that left a really sour taste man. kids played so hard tonight for it to end like that

 

[julius]

Any link to the post game coach pressor?

 

[Tince]

Did the Blazers not expect a trap, ahead by 1 point with 25 seconds left in the game?

They sure weren't ready for it.

I think they were aware if they got trapped, they had two timeouts left and could simply call one, and take the ball out on the side.

That would be the smart play vs throwing a wild cross court pass.

 

[PCmor7]

 

[blazerkor]

If looked pretty sure than SGA touched the ball when Brogdon was being hounded.

Wouldn't that allow Brogdon to restart his dribble?

SGA's contact with the ball would've had to have caused Malcolm to lose the ball in order for it to not be a double dribble. The way it went SGA's hand touches the ball, Malcolm maintained control (while calling for a time out) then Malcolm for whatever reason intentionally puts the ball back on the floor and starts to dribble... probably because the game was completely out of hand at that point and if any of us were Malcolm we wouldn't have had any presence of mind.

@PCmor7 I would fire that ref too. It had to be one of the worst successive calls I've ever seen, how he didn't hear Chauncey is something inexplicable, how he wasn't anticipating a timeout called when we had two is unforgivable, obviously he is going to call that T because Chauncey was pissed and made contact but then the other ref decides to throw Chauncey out of the game on a second T while the crew chief was right there not throwing Chauncey out. Then like a bunch of dirty cops (there are great cops out there I'm just talking about some fictional bad ones) all of the refs had each other's backs and acted like they all did the right thing.

It's fucking bullshit, the league should address it, I can see how it calls the validity of the games results into question but I just hate the lazy "the game was fixed" "the ref had money on it" thing. It was incompetence followed by refs with egos that are never supposed to play into games getting the best of them and costing us the game. Terrible but I sincerely doubt criminal.

 

[Tince]

Scoot 5th in minutes played, but 1st in shot attempts!

 

[blazerfan11]

Could have been a great learning experience for Scoot Henderson against hopefully someday a division rival.

 

[KingSpeed]

Scoot 5th in minutes played, but 1st in shot attempts!

I didn’t see him forcing anything. He was our best player tonight.

 

[Tince]

Could have been a great learning experience for Scoot Henderson against hopefully someday a division rival.

You can learn without playing every minute. He got a team high 18 shots and seemed plenty engaged. He had a solid game but is still clearly the 3rd best guard on the team.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Right. He shouts twice "time out" before Brogdon is even close to the double dribble.

 

[Tince]

I didn’t see him forcing anything. He was our best player tonight.

He forced some shots, but creating contact is kind of his game.

Shooting 38% on 18 shots, when none of them are forced, would've been somewhat concerning. I didn't mind his overall shot selection.

 

[Tince]

"This one is not on us." Malcolm Brogdon

He said he was calling timeout, got scratched in the fact, and his face was bleeding.